The Grail War continues, but you're taking a day off, and are in the middle of holding a feast!You are Shinji Makiri, Ten years ago you suddenly found yourself with the memories of a complete past life that saw this world as a fictional story due to some unprecedented form of inter-dimensional transportation. Since that day, your new composite being has been working to change the grim future laid out for you.To that end, you have done much, involving yourself with events and situations that have shifted the future away from the one that you once would have faced and instead onto one of uncertainty and chaos.The Fifth Holy Grail War lies ahead of you, and the challenge and danger it represents to you, the people you care for and the world itself is far greater than you could have ever predicted. Though the grail might be corrupted and the war itself might be a sham, the stakes couldn't be higher.Archive of Paradox Reincarnator: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=Fate/Paradox%20ReincarnatorGeneral QM Archive: http://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?tags=WhatIsAQMStatus Menu: https://pastebin.com/h152hbhVShinji Status Page: https://pastebin.com/a6fiNxrZMy Twitter: https://twitter.com/WhatIsAQMLast Thread: >>4824536
"Girls, you all look adorable." You smile at your three daughters, who all turn to look up at you, just in time for you rush the three of them and sweep them into a hug, squeezing the three girls ever so slightly. It's really only for Abigail's sake though, to be honest. Both Betty and Alítheia could easily shrug off being hit by a bullet train going full speed. In fact, the two of them might even end up completely derailing a train if it were to hit them. Especially Betty, with her Protection skill, something like hitting her would be incapable of doing any damage to her, even if the train had the mystery that it would require to damage her through the natural protective abilities possessed by Servants against mundane attacks like that. You squeeze the girls in the embrace for a moment, the girls are all laughing happily as you hug them all, it looks like all three of them are having fun.You end the hug after a minute, and smile at the three of them, before your attention is momentarily drawn to your daughters that don't have human form. Tetsuka is wearing what looks to be a tiny woven summer hat made out of straw, while Ourobora is wearing a red ribbon that seems to have been glued to the top of her head somehow. You don't even know how the two of them started to wear the head wear either. Could it have been the work of your three daughters with human forms? Could they perhaps have not wanted the two of them to miss out on being able to play dress-up? The ribbon you suppose makes some sense, as it's clearly supposed to be a hair ornament, but you have no idea how they managed to find a tiny fox pup sized hat for Tetsuka. Just how much assorted articles of clothing did your workers bring you? Did they really think that you'd have a use for a tiny hat like that? Well, you did have a use for the tiny hat, so... well you can't complain too much about your money being wasted. It's not really like you care either. With your current investments and lined-up projects, your money will only multiply over the next few years. The title of World's Richest Man is one that you'd naturally end up claiming in a couple of years at most. You simply can't spend your money faster than you earn it, not unless you started doing truly frivolous stuff.You pet the snake and the fox a little bit, before you turn to your daughters and pat each of them on the head, earning happy smiles from your three daughters in exchange for the affectionate action. "Girls, can you all head to the dining hall now? I need to stay here and wait for the guests to arrive, there's a special table just for the children." You tell the five of them to go to the dining hall. Everyone else in the house should be slowly being filtered inside of that area now, but it's up to you to greet the guests as they arrive. "I love you." You remind the girls of your love to them as you tell them to go meet up with everyone else.
"OK, father, we love you too." Betty takes the lead this time, leading her siblings away from you and deeper into your house. Watching the girls walk away, you lean against a wall, waiting for the first group of guests to arrive. It doesn't take long for somebody to show up, and you spring up from your slouched position as you feel the bounded fields ping with activity. A group of four is approaching your home. You don't have the bounded fields take any sort of action as you wait for the group to make their way to your door. There's no knock from the door, as the approaching party simply pushes their way in. There stands Waver Velvet, looking far more weary and haggard than he usually does, which is an impressive feat for him, considering just who he is. "Sorry for not knocking, I felt like if we weren't welcome, those bounded fields you've got up would've made it quite obvious." Waver reveals his reason behind not knocking, and you don't really care about it anyway. It's not like it would've served any purpose other than to make a loud noise. You knew he was there, and he knew you knew he was there at the same time. Behind Waver, you can see the curious face of Reines El-Melloi Archisorte, who is looking around the lobby with interest."So, this is what the home of your Japanese Friend looks like, elder brother?" The girl asks the older man, her curiosity getting the better of her. "He doesn't talk about you very much, you know? In fact, he'd usually try to keep you a secret entirely!" Well, you do appreciate Waver at least caring about not letting any information slip out about you, but it seems that even for somebody as careful and intelligent as him, Reines managed to pry at least a little bit of information out of him. Behind Reines you can see an interested looking girl with blonde drills looking around your lobby, seemingly impressed at the wealth on display before her eyes fix upon you and narrow, as if she'd just seen an old nemesis or something. Finally, the last member of the small group enters, and you see Kairi Sisigou enter. His face almost an emotionless mask as he looks around the room. You can't see his eyes through those sunglasses that he's wearing, though his body language shows you that he's on edge.
"Good evening, Lord El-Melloi! I see you brought your entourage with you." You smile affably at the group as they enter your home, first turning your attention to Reines. "You must be Lady Reines, I've heard quite a bit about you, all of it good, I assure you." You keep smiling as the girl turns to look at you instead, as if trying to get an idea on just what sort of a person you are. You then proceed to turn to look at Luvia. "Ah! Miss Edelfelt! I wasn't expecting you to show up, you're looking just as beautiful as you were when we first met." The narrowed eyes of the girl widen in surprise as you throw her off of her guard with a flirtatious compliment. Finally, you turn your attention to the last member of the group. "You must be... Kairi, was it? I've heard about you." You frown a little as you look at the tragic freelancer.>"OK, follow me to the Dining Hall!">Ask them all how they are coping with the current situation.>Summon one of your Servants to you to lead them to the Dining Hall.>Speak with one of the new arrivals about something (Who and What?)>Flirt with Luvia...?>Write-in...
I feel like this is a good opportunity to tell them that we'll fix some of their problems, namely Reines' Magic Crest. Also don't really know about any of you anons but I don’t really like Luvia in that way
>>4837381>Ask them all how they are coping with the current situation.>Tell Waver and Reines you can help their problem with Crest and warn Reines to be careful with her Mystic Eyes>Tell Kairi you aware about his curse problem and you would like to help him out>Tell Luvia you remember about promise to have another sparring match and you will happy to oblige...but it will have to wait for tomorrow
>>4837381>Ask how they are holding up>Thank them for accepting the invitation.>"OK, follow me to the Dining Hall!"
>>4837393>>4837381Support. We're gonna embarrass Luvia even harder next match
>>4837381>>4837398Actually supporting this instead >>4837393
>>4837401Did we get that much better since encountering her though? She might surprise us as well.
>>4837381>Ask them all how they are coping with the current situation.>Ask Kairi if he'd like his curse removed for him.>If he says yes (why would he ever say no?) contact Chiyome to come and do her thing>Warn Reines that her Mystic Eyes will be a problem with the company you're expecting, ask her if she'd like to borrow a pair of Mystic Eye Killers.>If she says yes (why would she ever say no?) use Tamamophone to ask Medusa or Shishou if they could lend her a pair of glasses for the evening when they see her.>Tell Luvia you remember about promise to have another sparring match and you will happy to oblige...but it will have to wait for tomorrow.>Tell Waver not to worry about a thing, he'll get his dude back tomorrow and we'll find Gray and Flat.>Tell Waver and Reines you'd very much like to talk to them in depth, but it will have to wait for tomorrow too. For today you hope they'll enjoy the festivities.>Escort them to the Dining HallReines's damaged Crest is hush-hush, we shouldn't mention it in front of Kairi and especially Luvia.
>>4837410We only knew Bajiquan during our first match and our magic circuits weren't entirely usable. At this point there are maybe 5 humans that can beat us
>>4837421Hadn't we already maxed Bajiquan at that point? I don't really remember. And the match would be without magic, presumably. We'll still win, but she might actually not get utterly embarrassed this time.
>>4837401>>4837410I think we learned Killing Arts but Bajiquan remained at the same level since that time.
>>4837425We'd use Reinforcement and we'd know Snake Style. It might be more embarrassing since it's likely she'd get KO'd with the first hit
>>4837433>We'd use ReinforcementSo we'd cheat? Match will be without magic anon.
>>4837381>>4837417Support. We'll help them now.
Here's hoping I can get out 4 updates today!
Should we use Concept of Triumph on Iskandar to clean him?>>4837421>>4837433Considering that we managed to surprise punch Jason and nature of Killing Arts I think no matter that she learned in both magical (Reinforcement) and physical combat there is little chance for her to win in anyway.Giving her pointers again would be fun scene but we should avoid insulting her too much about it since there is little point in antagonizing her. Our Rin got good with Bajiquan too so it is interesting to see how their match will go.
>>4837442Try not to get distracted.
>>4837381switching again from >>4837404 to >>4837417
>>4837442Good to see vorefren's Good Ending has restored your hope and optimism.>>4837443We'll ask Waver to choose, it's his dude. Something like Brotherhood or Camaraderie should work too.Rin Prime with no magic might be a good match for Luvia, but I'd still bet on Luvia getting flattened. It'll be fun to see their rivalry starting tonight.
>>4837381>>4837417+1Also, tell waver to not have a heart attack after seeing gilgamesh again.
>>4837381Switching from >>4837393 to >>4837417>damaged Crest is hush-hushForgot about this. It is so much easier to deal with world ending entities and Servants when it comes to diplomacy.>>4837453>Brotherhood or CamaraderiePermanent summon for his army?
>>4837381>>4837417+1This will do
>>4837426>I think we learned Killing Arts but Bajiquan remained at the same level since that timeIf we want a teacher and Li isnt summoned yet, can't we just have Nero IP CMA (Bajiquan) and some teaching skills?
>>4837463>It is so much easier to deal with world ending entities and Servants when it comes to diplomacy.I am really looking forward to all the shadow dealings and diplomacy we'll be doing soon. The conversation with Reines tomorrow after this first impression will be fascinating.>Permanent summon for his army?Plus buffs, but something like that, yeah.
>>4837472Miyako will reach Li's level in a year, when TATARI comes knocking. We'll teach her for now, and she'll repay the favor later.
>>4837477Tbh, I remembered that as Miyako only being Li level while TATARI is active. Also, thats a year away.
>>4837480I think she keeps the knowledge later too. And are we really in any hurry? We have so much shit to do, Bajiquan can wait. We'll be staying here for more than a year anyway, we can't leave when our kids will be 3-months old.
>>4837480Since the Act Cadenza manual says"Though it's merely pretend baji quan at the level of a child's play, in Melty Blood it became the real thing for a single night due to the Tatari's influence."Something may contradict this, but I dont know about it.
>>4837472She will subconsciously end up with Pankration because it is closer to home? But good idea, she should be able to do it.And if I recall correctly she suggested to Hakuno at some point during either Extra or Extella to do it in a sexual way. So she can Imperial Privilege herself any amount of sexual prowess too.Such a broken skill.
>>4837487She just out and out copied Li's Sphere Boundary in Extra, she just didnt know the optimal way to use it and got wuxia'd by "you're merely a master of the technique, but I mastered it" iirc
>>4837456Gil respects Waver, it should be fine.
Calling in 10.
So who did they summon? From what I remember it was Raikou, Arthur and maybe Perseus
>>4837501We hadn't identified them all from clae's dolls and I don't remember anyone else. We'll ask for their identities tomorrow.
>>4837492I feel we could spent tomorrow alone just on minimaxing skills with Nero and Morgan for rest of our allies.But if we are picking something special for her Chiyome`s Witchcraft is likely the most overpowered thing for her due to her new nature as a Saver.>>4837501>You look at the unfamiliar group of clay figures on the map of the forest first, looking at the larger group of that seems to slowly be making its way towards the Einzbern Castle's ruins. It's larger than you had first thought, consisting of 11 people. A man wearing a suit, a hooded girl, a girl with hair bunched in drills, a smaller boy without many distinguishing features, a gruff looking man wearing sunglasses, another small girl and... God damn it. This is Waver's group! What the hell is he doing in the forest? You look at the Servants instead. Of those, you can see a man wearing a mask and a tattered cloak, a somewhat tall woman with a long blade, a man with oriental looking armor and a bow, another man with armor, though this one has a blade. Another man with a cloak and... no shirt. Six Masters and five Servants. Looks like Enkidu wasn't capable of seeing through Assassin's Presence Concealment from this far away.
>>4837508I'm excited for the grudge matches, a shame that Karna won't be able to fight his brother
>>4837497Its not gil with waver, its how waver will react.
And a tally, please?
>>4837518>Ask how they are holding up>Thank them for accepting the invitation.>"OK, follow me to the Dining Hall!">>4837464>Ask them all how they are coping with the current situation.>Ask Kairi if he'd like his curse removed for him.>If he says yes (why would he ever say no?) contact Chiyome to come and do her thing>Warn Reines that her Mystic Eyes will be a problem with the company you're expecting, ask her if she'd like to borrow a pair of Mystic Eye Killers.>If she says yes (why would she ever say no?) use Tamamophone to ask Medusa or Shishou if they could lend her a pair of glasses for the evening when they see her.>Tell Luvia you remember about promise to have another sparring match and you will happy to oblige...but it will have to wait for tomorrow.>Tell Waver not to worry about a thing, he'll get his dude back tomorrow and we'll find Gray and Flat.>Tell Waver and Reines you'd very much like to talk to them in depth, but it will have to wait for tomorrow too. For today you hope they'll enjoy the festivities.>Escort them to the Dining Hall>>4837417>>4837441>>4837448>>4837456 (also tell Waver that Gil is invited for dinner)>>4837463>>4837467
>>4837517It'll be funny.
>>4837533I wonder if his voice will crack.
>>4837537He deserves it for believing Merlin
2.7k word long Oryou story inbound.It's funny because Sweets had Alberich just completely vore Matsuda by converting his entire body to energy and sucking it into himself.Also>>4837381>>4837417Support
>>4837549What goes around comes around.
>>4837549https://0bin.net/paste/28pWEmb2#Q9b8TRrP+EGJwpWov-WloNOGenKmNHrDGmb610Mb5JGI followed through with my threat to Sweets btw
>>4837559You must dislike Sweets a great deal.
>>4837573I just think doing this is funny.
>>4837576But you could use your powers for good! We all enjoyed your non-vore fan ending for Awakening!
>>4837577Doing this is funnier though.
>>4837559>Whilst for Adelheid, the original owner of the Noble Phantasm was completely overwritten by the Noble Phantasm, you doubt such a thing will end up happening to you. You feel secure in the fact that your ego will be able to shine through.>Ho? You're approaching me?Lost it here.>TRUE END - COUNTER (MIRROR) FORCEMirrors.
This reads like an introduction from a vampire lord.Poor Waver, dealing with an asshole like Shinji must be incredibly stressful.
>>4837581castlevania autism leaking out again
>>4837577>I'm alone again now! All... All alone!" She looks you with those teary eyes, redder than usual thanks to the tears freely flowing from them.I don't know, I greatly enjoyed this one too. Up until the warning>>4837581He's our oldest friend, he should have gotten used to our unique brand of autism by now.
>>4837582Heh, I totally forgot QM did CV quest, good call nigger.Smug, self-satisfied bastard who enjoys throwing in other people's faces he knows much more than he should. Sounds about right.
>>4837588The warning was there for a reason fren.I had to follow through on my threat.Gimme a second, I'm going to post the plant one.
>>4837592Oh, don't worry vorefren. I heeded the warning, I just meant I didn't read past that. I know my limits. Keep up the good work!
>>4837592https://0bin.net/paste/iUn0OID0#AUeTGnoMVR9i4JB9zCNyX4oSz0WEMKRRy6NN+wZ9KSJIt's a Choose Your Own Adventure!
>>4837577I mean 2/3 of it is just Ryoma and Oryou finally doing their job and Titania getting most ideal and perfect form of jobbing (Alberich`s true self) with Volksgemeinschaft.>>4837559>threatYou took his >>4834797 to heart with Titania's inner dialogues.
We're not going to get the next 6 updates today are we?
>>4837600>entwining your finders with hers.bit of proofreading before I stick it on the fridge
>>4837608That depends entirely on my ability to resist reading these and dying.
>>4837616We believe in you!
>>4837588Young Shinji used to be much more careful with knowledge dick-waving.I understand now why Waver is weary of Shinji, this friend of his is bad news.
>>4837615the shidd part ruined my emersion with Oryou, servants are pure and don't do things like that.
>>4837621On our very first meeting we gave him spoilers for games that wouldn't be out for years. We've always done knowledge dick-waving.>>4837626Should've heeded the warning fren.
>>4837581Waver is forever cursed to be involved with autistic savants
I might stop when I've written more dead ends for Alberich than Shirou has in F/SN.
>>4837626I wouldn't have included it if Sweets didn't start sperging.You can blame him for it.
>>4837627In a different fashion, that's my point.You're now confident in revealing higher power levels.
>>4837633I'm not getting tired of reading Alberich dead ends anytime soon.
>>4837600>I Have No Mouth, and I Must Scream ending>Good ending with dryad saving the day>Alberich jobs to cephalotus ending>Good ending with Euryale saving the day and showing that she cares for Medusa endingThose were great.
>>4837639>YouHmm?And it's the same fashion, we just turned the volume up a bit now we're not afraid of revealing our power level anymore. It's only natural.
>>4837636> if they knew I had a human for them to you with that their sister wouldn't rid them ofesl moment in the dryad section
>>4837650Pls no bulli.
>>4837648Yes, that's what I'm talking about. Shinji is bad news for the world.>youI'm looking at Shinji from a 3rd person perspective, his harem mindset is now too alien for me to participate in the quest, so I won't.
>>4837668Jesus, takes little for you to be disconnected.It would take shinji raping babies and eating their flesh for power for me to feel disconnected.Or things worse.
>>4837668>his harem mindset is now too alien for me>his mindset is too alienOne of the whole draws to the quest was an alien mindset, so mission accomplished?
>>4837636>in order to soften them p entirely.>she might have thought with Gorgon once,>>4837654just take it as a really quick proofread
And, Voreanon, I have interesting scenario for you.Remember that time Alberich casually defeated Roland in a sword fight and Ayaka feed him Servant for the first time?Do that scene but with smart Ayaka who realized how full of shit Alberich is. His charisma failed, she realized how dangerous he is and used feeding ritual to gamble and grab powers of Roland and Alberich for herself, drinking both of Servants in the process. After that she goes to avenge her brother and kills Harris with ease.>>4837677Alien mindset is the most fun part. I wish other characters mentioned it more often.
>>4837674Well, I just don't understand making every female into a wife. I can see having 10 concubines, but 10 wives? That's too much for me.Eating your opponents heart for a power up sounds more reasonable to me, funnily enough.Guess I'm just retarded, whatever.
>>4837677Mindset alien to beings from lower dimension, guess I'm going to join them now.It's fun to try a different perspective though.
>>4837698it doesn't need to be alien because it's up, it could be sideways just as well, though I have a feeling it's more diagonal
>>4837668It's kinda sad to see a fellow monogamyfag go. I struggled a lot against the harem and haremfags myself. If you've been following the quest you must have seen some of my past meltdowns on the subject. But I'm not Shinji, so it doesn't matter that the harem feels a lot like cheating to me. I've come to accept it was inevitable. It is what it is, monogamy never stood a chance when even WhatIs was a haremfag all along. I'm still enjoying the quest, and it would take quite a bit for me to drop it now that the girl I cared about has gotten her wish, even if it's a scuffed. Some of the directions some anons have proposed for the future might be enough to do it, but I'm hopeful we'll not end up doing those things.>>4837677There's a difference WhatIs. I completely understand him, and I think you do too. Alien mindset in the beginning meant "NPCs are not human, named characters are". The harem is a different kind of alien, and it gets more and more alien as it grows. Not everyone is a haremfag like you, and in the real world haremfaggotry of this kind is something really, really, REALLY uncommon.>>4837696>I can see having 10 concubines, but 10 wivesI see no difference between the two. Is it just the word you're objecting to? Because for me it's the number.
>he needs to self insert to playbaka desu senpai
>>4837677He's extremely fucking weird and sociopathic, he straight up does not care that Shuten turned a bunch of people into Oni beyond it being kinda annoying or Medusa turning hundreds of people into blood puddles. There's also the incest
>>4837696Cause anons have different favorites so this evens things out, I for example have Sakura as my least favorite heroine but I still went along with the romance option cause it narratively makes sense and cause certain anons have her as a favorite and I don’t wanna be an asshole and sabotage it, especially if we’re all gonna make it
>>4837709Honestly, if i didnt knew anyone i would also barely care.Also the onis arent dead and medusa was not in control of herself.And incest is based.
>>4837690They're kinda used to it, plus all his best friends are also insane so it kinda makes him look less like a weirdo
>>4837700I never asked you this before but: Were you really expecting supposed monogamy Sakura route to be full monogamy?Because a lot of anons had dragon blood plan since the very beginning so Alítheia would come to exist at some point with Medea magic involved.And Sakura would always push for Medusa to enter relationship too.>>4837715This position still remains a beacon of Hope.
>>4837730True, no argument against that.Although, Waver might just do that next update. Him and his group are the most out of the loop on how we do things.
>>4837731we need to headpat len
>>4837718A normal person would find it very hard to deal with their friends murdering tons of people, brainwashed or not. HF's central conflict was whether it was worth it to save Sakura who kept eating people in her sleep cause of Angra. We just side stepped it all and said "don't care, NPCs aren't people"
>>4837736I personally would try to stop then, but the deaths would still be something out of their control, so i would care little.It would still be sad.
>>4837731I mean I don't know why it would be a controversial position, if someone has a favorite why not go for it if we can? I might not like them that much but some anon might right? Plus it might mean I'll eventually get my favorites too
>>4837751>Plus it might mean I'll eventually get my favorites tooIndeed.
>>4837754No.Two more updates.Three if I can push myself still!AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAa
>>4837755We'll get u ur waifu Illyabro, we're all gonna make it
>>4837751I'll support any anon that wants their waifu in this quest even if said waifu is altrouge.
>>4837731Just saying that even if we had a scenario with Sakura monogamy route before the war all that Saver things we are done would have required us to carry calling cards with "Local Saver. Please don`t fall in love with them" but even that would hardly help with the way we go about saving people and fulfilling their dreams and desires.With alternative being just killing people because they would fall in love with us if we save them.And that would have been the most bizzare and truly alien view on the world for everyone.>>4837751Prisoner`s dilemma but for harems.Initial monogamy competition was quite high and I personally juggled with choices to prevent route lock before the war.
>>4837759Is that a tentacle?
>>4837759Get some sleep OP. You won't be getting any updates done if you burn out for real.
>>4837766close, it's a fentanyl
>>4837764Pretty sure she’s QM's waifu>>4837765Yeah me too, I think cause most anons just didn't want to get route locked with the very obvious choice, Sakura. After it became clearer that you can get more than one love interest then things became easier and anons could focus their autism on battle ideas and post HGW scenarios
>>4837774QM's waifu is satsuki
>>4837774Supporting this against that and so on and arguing in favor of it.But it feels like current situation with girls is at least one that most of us can agree on is the best approach to things.
>>4837778I don't think Satsuki is THE waifu. I'm sure he likes her but I don't believe anyone would have their waifu break down in tears because they thought they accidentally killed their love.
Also I think the whole savior complex Shinji has also adds on to his alien mindset cause he genuinely doesn't understand why it makes people fall for him or extremely loyal to him. Imagine a 10/10 guy with billions of dollars and warm personality just showing up one day and curing your stage 4 cancer while also giving you the ability to fly cause he felt like it, you would either pledge eternal allegiance to him or suck his dick.
>>4837778I don't think so? He said he didn't think his favorite had a chance of winning and Sacchin was always popular and one of the very few girls we had a chance with pre HGW, if anything, she had the best chance of winning
I regret not shilling Arjuna as much as I shilled Perseus, Raikou and Hopeman desu. Woulda completed all the grudge matches and made Karna less lonely
>>4837795So maybe arc's sister, i dont know.>inb4 its manaka
>>4837808There are so many better curries let alone men.
I’m willing to fucking bet that at this rate carnival will literally just be two stories and thats it. Considering the current rate of updates and QMs lack of sleep. I hope it isn’t though.
>>4837817QM put out a novel's worth of Paradox Carnival last time so who knows
The next Carnival will be on the 31st.I've got a day-off from wageslavery on that day.
>>4837828Arby's gives you a day off?!
>>4837814>There are so many better curries let alone men.4 77u7.
>>4837731Alright then, full honesty. I've been here since pretty much the beginning, I was in the /a/ Shinji Isekai threads that WhatIs made before starting the quest. I was one of the people voting against running away with Monica, I was one of those who restrained us from hugging Sakura when we first saw her and I was pretty happy the first thing we did was to go back to her and try to cheer her up in the mall. But I never expected the Sakura route to really happen, there was too much opposition for a romantic relationship for a lot of reasons. I mostly lurked, participated in the plans a bit, and didn't really think of what might be in terms of romance. But yes, I've played Hollow Ataraxia. I always knew that a supposed Sakura route would eventually come with Medusa as a bonus, but this was different in my eyes. Medusa places Sakura above herself, and I see that as acceptable. Perhaps calling myself a monogamyfag is a bit of a misnomer, but I would have honestly preferred a monogamy romance with anyone over the harem we've ended up getting. Even if this wouldn't be Sakura.Dragon Core was bound to happen, it was one of the core ideas proposed in the /a/ threads, but the Dragon Core ritual coming with a dragon daughter was literally unthinkable before it happened. And for the brief moment after Medea got a dragon daughter and before Alitheia saw Sakura as her mother too, I was one of the people pushing for Medea monogamy. Alitheia's two mothers was what convinced me that WhatIs was a haremfag, much before he admitted it, and what got me to start raging against the heavens for this.And I see the danger of igniting another Waifu War but I said full honesty and I'm not taking that back. So, I don't really agree that the "gotta catch 'em all" position is a beacon of hope. Pretty much the opposite. I see it as a beacon of despair. As that Marie Antoinette anon said when someone recommended we summon her and waifu her, and he'll always have my respect for that, "being part of a 20 girl harem is just sad". Love may arguably be limitless, but time is finite We eventually have to start putting girls in a box like the pokemon you caught just to fill the pokedex and never put in your team. I know it'll probably come out as hypocritical of me to want to deny others their wish now that I've gotten mine, but I really don't understand the appeal of advocating for your waifu to become #10 or 20 in the harem. I know I wouldn't be calling for Sakura to be included if she was to be girl #10. I would see it as taking advantage of her issues in order for us to coom in more pussy and fill our pokedex, and that would be just sad.I won't vote against a girl who says she loves us and accepts that raw deal, and it is very much a raw deal for them. We've already agreed we won't. But I still cannot understand the appeal. And I am still expecting that girls will start rejecting the deal at some point. That's the normal response to a harem situation.
>>4837736I value the people that I care about more than strangers in real life too, and I see this as perfectly normal. I don't care that children in Africa are starving to death, and most people don't either. Very, very few care, truly care, equally for all humans. They're the ones running off to Africa to volunteer to save black people. The HF conflict is this normal mentality drawn to its natural conclusion and applied to an abnormal scenario. For me. the moment it becomes clear that Sakura, or any person I love, to generalize a bit, is a victim and is not doing this because she's an unrepentant psychopath is the moment I would prioritize her wellbeing over the strangers I never knew with little hesitation. The conflict in HF was interesting because of Sakura's exact situation, and because Shirou was very much not a normal person. He started from that warped "every human life is equal" point of view to end up in the more normal "I care more about some people than others".>>4837759For the love of god, go to sleep. Why are you doing this to yourself?>>4837765There is a difference between being a Saver and encouraging romance. The lines here are blurred, admittedly, because WhatIs has been a haremfag all along, but having 90% of the girls you meet fall head over heels for you approximately 5 minutes after you've met them is far from normal. As for the alternative being killing people, that's just a copout. Romantic love isn't a necessary result, it needs to be encouraged. And both the haremfag anons and WhatIs have done a lot to encourage it, beyond and above just being a saver.>I personally juggled with choices to prevent route lock before the war.I hate you a little. You're part of the reason we're in this mess. I would have hated you more if WhatIs wasn't in your corner though. I hope you're happy at least with the result, and with my plan to have the dates and resolve the Shinjibowl peacefully today.>>4837780>But it feels like current situation with girls is at least one that most of us can agree on is the best approach to things.That's only because people leave or get converted. This whole conversation started with a monogamyfag saying he's dropped the quest because of the harem, and I assure you he's not the only one. I remember that haremfags were ridiculed early on in the quest. Monogamy was a given back then, we just couldn't agree on the one waifu. And WhatIs encouraged this.>>4837795My memory was very different anon. I saw Illya as the clear frontrunner back then, with a lot of support for "wait to see all the options before we commit", Sakura getting some amount of support but not enough to make me hopeful, and Satsuki getting comparatively little. That's one of the reasons, if not THE reason WhatIs encouraged haremfaggotry so much. He wanted to give his waifu a chance.>>4837828Joy!
>>4837885>>4837886I thought this was an update at first glance
>>4837887I felt inspired by the question. And the vorefren has filled me with energy lately.
>>4837889I actually remember you being the primary objector to me proposing Shinji kiss Sakura and profess his love to her, which by that point felt an in character act, but also I wanted to make sure she had enough emotional support to not have Tiamat succ the mud plan backfire. So, a bit of pragmatism, with "justifiable" romance aspect.Eventually it was accepted but you really seemed to find it hard to push past the final hurdle. I guess you wanted it to be more special? But honestly in life spontaneity is what works in situations like that
>>4837885>time is finite>"I don't follow."
>>4837885>No seating plan, first come first served. See how things end up.
"Everyone, before we go any further, I'd like to make sure that you're all doing alright. I understand that the four of you lost your Servants last night, and even if you didn't get much time to know them, that must still sting quite a bit." You look at the four new arrivals, your expression one of sympathy for the four of them. They've not been in town for long, and already they've gone through a lot. It's hard not to feel sympathy towards them, and you also want to make things a little easier on them as well, though that can wait."Well we're not dead, so that's a plus. Though I'd be much more comfortable if I knew where Gray and Flat had gotten off to..." Waver frowns a little, that's to be expected, as a teacher, it's only natural for Waver to wonder just where his students are, and if they are safe or not. You aren't especially worried for Flat or Gray though, both of them are strong enough that they should be able to fend for themselves, and you'll go looking for the two of them properly tomorrow anyway. "Don't worry, we'll find Gray and Flat, I'll have my Casters start looking for them after the feast and making sure that they're fine." It's not work if you're having somebody else take care of things for you, is it? You don't think that Sakura or Medea would take umbrage to you wanting to make sure that the two were fine. They want you to stop stressing yourself and overworking, and not knowing if a friend of yours is in mortal peril or not isn't really good for dealing with stress. "Other than that though, there are no injuries that need to be taken care of?""Not really, we managed to escape unscathed from last night." Waver doesn't sound happy about the reminder of last night, and you don't really blame him for it. An entire faction worth of Servants being basically wiped out in a single attack without even getting to do anything should be enough to make anybody mad, not with anger, but with frustration. The fact that the enemy he is going to have to help against is great enough that even over half a dozen Servants weren't able to do anything against an attack that wasn't even directed at them!"Well, what about you, Kairi?" You turn to the sunglasses wearing man, who starts a bit as you turn to him. "That curse of yours, would you like it removed?" You ask the man without hesitating, already planning to make good usage of Chiyome's anti-curse nature. With her abilities, clearing that curse lingering on his bloodline would be quite simple."I'm sorry, what...?" The man takes a step back, surprised at your sudden offer. You don't blame him, it's quite the odd thing to do, to immediately offer to break a curse that has plagued his family for generations on your first meeting with him, but that's just the sort of person you are.
"I meant what I said, I'm aware of the tragic curse laid upon the Sisigou family, and I believe that I have a method to break that curse." Well, you know for a fact that the curse will powerlessly erode into nothingness the moment that Chiyome touches Kairi, but you don't want to project that much confidence here, otherwise it would look just a little bit too suspicious."How can you be so sure that your method will work?" Kairi questions you, but that's something to be expected too, it's obviously going to be pretty difficult to trust somebody immediately like this. Especially with matters as delicate as Kairi's curse. It wasn't exactly a life-changing curse like something like Medea's curse of love, or the general horrible experience that Orochi's curse was, but for Kairi, the curse had ruined his entire life. Being the reason he couldn't have children and so something that would naturally mean the end of his family. Him losing his step-daughter due to a botched Crest Transplant procedure was entirely due to the curse."Well, the curse-breaker in question has both broken a Goddess' curse of love, as well as extracted a goddess possessing a body without causing the host body any lingering harm." You give Kairi a brief overview of just what Chiyome has managed to accomplish, and it's very clear to you that the man is surprised by your claims."Then if you think that your friend can do it, feel free to have them try. Though I'm not holding out hope here, you'll understand." Kairi doesn't seem to have any objections to at least trying whatever you suggest and you smile. "Wonderful. Give me a moment." You tell the man to wait for a few seconds as you reach out on the link your share to Chiyome. 'Chiyome, can you come here for a moment? I have a task that only you can do' You inform the ninja girl of the situation, and after waiting for fifteen seconds, she appears, almost as if by magic. Her speed is only surpassed by her loyalty, it seems. You hope that she's going to be happy to be able to sit at your table at the feast, she deserves it after all. In fact, you wish you could do more to repay her loyalty to you, but something tells you that if you asked if she wanted anything from you, she'd just give some sort of non-answer like 'nothing would please me more than the continued opportunity to serve you'. "My lord, what is it you wish me to do?" Chiyome kneels in respect to you, and you gesture at Kairi."That man has a curse, can you break it?" You keep your request short, and Chiyome simply nods, before moving towards Kairi and touching him once."There, it is done, the curse is removed." Chiyome doesn't take more than half a second before determining that the curse that had plagued Kairi and caused his life to end up in such a tormenting situation was gone. She then proceeds to stand by your side, happy to have been of use to you. You mindlessly pat the top of her head in silent praise.
"Do you feel any different?" Kairi seems to be looking a little shaken up, more so than he was when he first arrived, at least.The man says nothing, instead, he just takes a cigarette out of his pocket, lights it up, and steps outside for a moment. You'd consider it to be a rude action, but Kairi is one of those people who would prefer not to show that much emotion in front of other people. While Kairi had already given up on ever being able to have children of his own, the breaking of his curse has effectively opened that potential to him. Though his true wish is to get his step-daughter back, and without Rin snatching her from a parallel timeline where she's about to go through with the ritual or something, that's not happening... Well, it's not like there's not any reason to at least try to have Rin attempt something like that at some point in the future. She's already shown her proficiency in saving other Rins from guaranteed lethal situations.With Kairi out of the room, you turn your attention to Reines, and take a grave tone. "Lady Reines, I feel obliged to warn you that your Mystic Eyes might be a problem at this feast. Your sensitivity to magic could cause you to have a negative reaction to your surroundings." You calmly make an observation. "Which is why I want to know if you'd like to borrow a pair of Mystic Eye Killers for tonight, to prevent something like that from happening.""Mystic Eye Killers...? Aren't those supposed to be ridiculously expensive?" Wait, are they? You kind of thought that they were easy to get a hold of, considering that in Hollow Ataraxia, Rider manages to get two pairs to use. "Even the El-Melloi couldn't find somebody willing to sell a set to them!" Oh, so they are aware that Reines would be better served by wearing a set of the glasses? At least they aren't completely clueless as to her well-being. "If you're offering, I won't say no...""Great!" You smile at the girl, who looks a little uncomfortable with the strange greeting that she is being given. 'Medusa, could you come to the lobby?' You speak through the Tamamo sticker, and all you need to do is wait and the woman will make her arrival. 'I need to borrow your Mystic Eye Killers for somebody else, just for the night, the girl with the blonde hair.' It wouldn't be very fair on Reines if she was forced to be at risk of having her eyes combust, would it?'I'm on my way, Shinji.' Medusa gives you a quick notification that she did indeed hear your request."Just a moment, the person with them will be with us shortly." You smile at Reines once again, before you turn to Luvia. "It's been a while, hasn't it? I remember that sparring match that we promised one another a few years ago, and... well, I'll be happy to oblige, but it will have to wait until tomorrow, OK?" You inform the drill haired girl that you hadn't forgotten the promise that you made to her after thrashing her in a fight all those years ago.
"Well, I hope you've been training since that day, Shinji." Luvia crosses her arms. "I wouldn't want to defeat you too easily." The girl seems confident in her abilities, and you wonder just how poorly she took her loss to you all that time ago. She's probably just being overconfident in herself again. It's at this moment that Medusa arrives, and rather awkwardly hands Reines the pair of glasses, you don't know why, but it seems like Medusa didn't really enjoy having to part with the spectacles. Odd.With the brief distraction from Medusa dealt with, you turn to Luvia. "I can assure you that you won't be beating me, Luvia." You say with confidence, before you turn back to Waver again. "There's something I'd like to talk to you in depth about Waver, you and Reines, actually. It's about your Servant from the last war, and... Well, it can wait for tomorrow, today, I just hope that you can enjoy the festivities. Now, shall we be heading to the dining hall?" You have Chiyome go fetch Kairi and bring him back with you, and while the man had seemingly been crying, nobody brings it up. You don't take long to lead them all to the dining hall and direct them to their seats, most everyone else is already at the hall, with the exception of a few missing guests that have yet to arrive. Though the very moment you finish leading Waver and his group to the hall, you can feel your bounded fields ping again. It's a group of five, Jason and his allies, you imagine. >Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourself.>Send somebody else to greet them... (Who?)>Send nobody to greet them, they can find their own way to the dining hall.>Write-in...
>>4837924>>Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourself.Rude not to greet guests, don't want to risk them shitting about the bounded field
>>4837924>>Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourself.
>>4837924>Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourself
>>4837924>Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourselfLast update for the night?
>>4837932If we can get enough votes in like, 20 minutes from now, I'll try posting another update.
>>4837924>Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourself.Obvious choice. Small possibility that it's not Jason too. And apparently Medusa likes the glasses too, good.Nigger, I have another update's worth of text to answer your question, but I'm going to wait and space it. Don't want to crowd out the real update.>>4837934I'd honestly prefer if you went to sleep.
This popped up in recommended, and I started watching it as a joke. But considering Shinji's snek fetishism it's actually quite based. Loreautism anon might like the seraph linkshttps://youtu.be/XogaHpV5oUs Ride GodMarry our daughter to God and become God's dad
>>4837934Bro go to sleep
Really should talk about Kerry being here. Would be an issue if they find out during dinner.
>>4837894Alright, time for another block of text I think..Yes, I was the primary objector. No, it was not because I wanted it to be special. It was perfectly in-character, perfectly justified, and in accordance with similar situations in the vns. That's why I had to relent eventually. I could not oppose something so perfectly justified forever.My real objection was the reason I'm doing it all: Sakura's smile. I feared the long-term consequences. You were proposing a Sakura route lock for power gaming. Anons would support it for powergaming reasons, as it happened. And I was SURE they would completely ignore that it happened, or try to take it back because they DIDN'T really want a Sakura route lock. You just dangled a big enough carrot in front of them to get them to accept it. And trying to take it back would hurt her much, much more than never confessing to her in the first place.My meltdown over Vritra was because of that. We had just confessed to Sakura. We had not mentioned anything about a harem to her, she thought that her dream came true and her hero was hers and hers only. And the MOMENT we got out of her sight we got a new girl to fall for us, partly because of your other autistic write-in. No one cared we had confessed, people were joking about this hurting Sakura, and WhatIs's kiss of true love in her charsheet was the final straw. Vritra refusing to take advantage of us like we would have certainly had if the situation was reversed was a huge part of the reason I warmed up to her.I only became more and more certain for most anons it was as if the confession never happened as time went by. I proposed us kissing Sakura in celebration after we killed grandpa. It was literally the perfect moment, and it was shot down harshly. Anons didn't want to kiss the girl we supposedly loved because it MIGHT upset the other pokemon they wanted to add to the pokedex, even if they weren't around. Confession meant nothing, as I expected.After we collapsed and woke up, Sakura greeted us at the door. We were in a corridor, alone with her and our kids. Again I proposed that we kiss her. WhatIs CONFIRMED that we were alone in the corridor. And the kiss to the girl we supposedly love was AGAIN rejected, because someone might be spying on us, because someone might walk around the corner, because Satsuki might be in the next room and hear us tell Sakura we love her. I became 110% convinced that the confession meant precisely jack shit to just about anyone other than me, as I had always suspected it would. And that was the moment I decided to propose we resolve the shinjibowl and ACTUALLY start kissing the girl(s) we supposedly love. And if that hadn't happened, if we were still stuck in the "oblivious teasing manwhore" phase even after confessing I would have dropped the quest right there and then. It wouldn't have been worth it to continue being frustrated.
>>4837924>you don't know why, but it seems like Medusa didn't really enjoy having to part with the spectacles. Odd.C'mon bros can we just tell her she looks hot with glasses on?
>>4837962So I proposed the plan, you and one other anon were the only ones to object, and we finally go to the "confess to Sakura and Medea together" part. We had already confessed to Sakura of course, but it was as if it never happened for absolutely everyone other than me. That was the cause of my mounting frustration, and the winning write-in using what WE KNEW were her worst fears and almost making her cry was just rubbing salt in the wound. Everything I feared had happened. Anons accepted your confession ONLY because you bribed them with powergaming, and then pretended that it never happened. I always look at the long-term consequences of our actions. ALWAYS. Our frequent arguments should have made it obvious. And the long-term consequences of confessing to Sakura to encourage her to unleash Tiamat were EXACTLY what I feared they would be.>>4837897I DISTINCTLY remember you saying no cheats, no hacks, no easy solutions. Are you going back on that now? Because let me tell you, an easy cheat solution to the harem mess would be one of the few things that would get me to drop the quest. A huge reason I'm enjoying it now is BECAUSE of the effort required to actually make it work. I would enjoy it MORE if it was more difficult than it is, just like the niggers (I assume) enjoys a good fight the harder it is. Call me weird, but that's my favorite part of a relationship in real life too, the part where Eros (fucking english and your fucking lack of words for important concepts) fades out, problems start appearing, and you have to make an effort to make it work. And a harem like the one we're doing? It should be FROUGHT with problems.But even if it's true, even if there is an easy solution, and even if we ask Mordred to cheat and give us infinite time, MY time is finite WhatIs. Yours, and ours. If we had a single waifu, she'd get all the screen time in every update related to romance. If we have 20, every one of them gets one out of every twenty updates. Including the updates with more than one girl, where screentime is even more shared. And as this day have shown, anons have limited patience for SoL. You can't stretch the romance forever, adhd takes over. The romance update budget is limited by necessity.>>4837904>>4837910>>4837914ngl, I chuckled
>>4837963I wish we would anon. We almost did in the attic, but it was shot down.
>>4837965I'm not saying that there's an easy solution, I'm just saying that you're probably not going to have a lifespan, so your time is effectively unlimited.I just felt like Mordred would've been funny to post there.
>>4837967Vote for it again
>>4837970We have an eternity ahead of us, I know. But that doesn't mean anything. There are 365 days in a years, 24 hours in a day. This HAS to be divided by the number in the harem, and the fraction for each girl gets smaller as the harem increases. And that goes for the updates you write too.
>>4837965I just want Rin desu
>>4837962I'm usually a "First Girl Wins" type of guy, so Shirou/Saber and Shinji/Sakura were always what I was going for. I never liked harems much, and this quest has only increased that dislike, with the pokemon style collection of women. I love Eresh, but I'd rather Sakura or Medea be the only girls than have to deal with this mess. But with so many people here I suppose this was inevitable.I'll stop Marie and Okita from joining though, or at least try my best.
>>4837965>the part where Eros (fucking english and your fucking lack of words for important concepts)It's called the 'honeymoon phase', Greekoid.
>>4837980I've been talking honestly, so I'd like an honest answer: Do you think Rin would be happier with 1/20th of Shinji's attention, or with the full attention of someone else? Are you doing it for you, or for your girl?>>4837983I agree completely anon.>>4837985Fuck english, there's a perfectly fine word for this. You shouldn't lump everything into "love" and try to describe the differences with hack phrases.
>>4837993Yes she would
Honestly you guys make the haremshit a bigger deal then it needs to be, people like it and wanna roll with it cause it gives them a chance to get their waifu idk what else to tell you
>>4837993>Are you doing it for you, or for your girl?Ye
>>4837994And why is that? Up until yesterday, she was in love with the high jumper. Is the big Makiri dick THAT good?>>4837996I think I've explained myself well enough in my recent update-worth blocks of text.
>>4838002You've gotten really lazy with the tallies lately>Go and greet Jason and the Argonauts yourself.>>4837926>>4837927>>4837931>>4837932>>4837933>>4837938>>4837939>>4837986
>>4837962ehh the powergaming was more an excuse to have an in character action be taken, this was when Shinji was a perpetual cocktease and just couldn't seem to actually express himself yet so I wanted to have him actually do something that would also help overcome the story issue and actually put himself out there for the main love interest. Anons needed the carrot to commit at all and it actually worked out pretty well in saving Gil + Clae, stopping Manaka voring them, giving Shinji a male friend who, as an outsider God King to his people can actually understand and be a really good shoulder for him to lean on in time.>>4837993Honeymoon phase is real, continued relationships take actual work which is really cringe sometimes, but everything in life is a balance between safety and freedom. If you bind yourself to someone you're safer, but you also cut yourself off from other experiences. Playing musical chairs as you age can be a real risk though, there might not be a place for you when the music stops. Having to re-establish trust and learn about another again is also a massive time sink that could have been spent productively like building up something or raising kids
I know you don't need to.I know the vote was unanimous.Tally.
>>4837996Very simple anons want their waifu to have more screentime. Having more waifus in the harem deminishes their screentime that's all there is to it. Personally i could care less about my waifu having little to no screentime there is already a massive issue with character bloat and its only going to get worse once we go to clocktower.
>>4838009almost Thot ID
>>4838010Clocktower honestly might fix it, we're only gonna take like 6 or 7 people
>>4838007>actually put himself out there for the main love interestDid you not read anything I wrote? Anons didn't see Sakura as the main love interest, either before or after the confession. The confession meant precisely jack shit.The powergaming part worked perfectly, yes. I never objected to that part of the plan. But the confession? It never happened for most anons. Only Sakura cared, and me apparently. Not even you cared enough to participate in the romance stuff, you've been consistently mashing the skip button. It's obvious this was just another piece in the powergaming puzzle, relationship fallout be damned.>spoilerI know nigger. I did say that was my favorite part, did I not?>>4838017Today has honestly made me dread the clocktower. It's going to have more social interactions and less battles, and I'm very worried that adhd will take over.And what's the point of building a harem if you're ditching most of them at the first opportunity?
>>4838020we're not ditching them we're dealing with our major problems before things get out of hand and everything turns into full scale war, quietly dealing with Clock Tower is a good option, then loudly dealing with everything else
>>4838020Shinji should care IC, I base my autism on being IC, that's more just anon autism but well>/qst/I don't think that will ever change considering the audience.Also, I just wanted to >skip romance because there are still things to kill and trees to grow
>>4838023>I don't think that will ever change considering the audience.That's pretty much my point, yes. I knew the audience, I knew how they'd react, and that's why I objected to us confessing to Sakura back then. People don't care about IC, and will rarely vote for IC when it comes against what they want.And I know you don't care about the romance stuff and you want to skip them. It's become more than obvious today. You see the relationships and emotional connections as means to an end, with combat victory as that end. And I see it the opposite. The relationships are the goal, combat is just in the way. We are diametrically opposed in this, and a huge reason behind many of my objections to your plans. You only care about using the emotional connections for powergaming autism, relationship fallout be damned.
Tf is IC
>>4838028She's still Shinji's first though, and nothing is ever taking that away from her.
>>4838028That's how it worked through most of history, the exception was usually when someone actually caught feelings and then went down that path as a happy distraction.People doing great things often have to spread their time thinly, also making an eternal immortal peace leaves countless lifetimes for romance, IC, but you want to read it now, which I get.>>4838029In character
>>4838030Nyarly and Mo could have something to say about that
>>4838034Independent Manifestation vs Timetravel coomwars when?Carnival?
>>4838036I literally already fucking wrote it.
>>4838039+ time travelling Monika!Tesla, Ilya after voring Chronos/Horae uhhh...Nero builds a time machine too for good measure.Medea magics it with her new concept or Nyarly brings her along
>>4838042literally fucking write the next one about Sakura when you get around to it
>>4838028>>4838023Shinji would never fuck if he was IC
>>4838047first and only coom to date is with Sakura skipchad kun>>4838049OG Shinji fucked quite a bit, Isekai!Shinji may be autistic but he's not an incel, he's too charming towards wom*n
>>4838050Sakura was masturbating to the thought of getting rammed by her onii-chan since before it was appropriate and he did nothing about it until like a day ago cause he was weirded out by the incest until now, now he lusts after her and is openly affectionate towards her. Also I'm talking about Sakura's reaction to being Shinji’s first
>>4838030Part of the reason I'm hopeful about the future and happy at all with today's dating plan, yeah. And it was entirely up to chance.But I do have a question if you want to answer: If that other write-in had won, telling her about the feast and offering to help her wash, would this still have happened? Or would you have stuck to the letter of the write-in and avoided the h-scene?>>4838032I don't give a crap about how it worked through most of history. Telling someone you love her with no further clarification, continuing acting like a manwhore and ignoring that confession is SHITTY, even if it gave you a momentary advantage. You're trying to justify the effects your autism has on the relationships with anything other than the ACTUAL effect that autism has on the relationships.>>4838034>>4838046Remember how I keep telling you your power autism often goes too far? This is one of those times. Sakura got one thing today for real, and you're autisming your way to taking it away from her. It's a joke, I know, but a cruel one.>>4838047But anons didn't vote for that. They voted for more Rin interludes.>>4838049Explain
>>4838052>cause he was weirded out by the incest until nowThere was never any IC reason given. Shinji just never thought about it.
>>4838053Dude you're in the shower naked with a girl who wants to fuck you and you're rubbing her naked body, what do you think was going to happen?>ExplainNo
>>4838053>But I do have a question if you want to answer: If that other write-in had won, telling her about the feast and offering to help her wash, would this still have happened? Or would you have stuck to the letter of the write-in and avoided the h-scene?I don't think that Sakura would've let the opportunity pass her by, and Shinji only has so much restraint.
>>4838062That was actually the reason he himself thought, either during the timeskip after saving Sakura or in the first affection rating, he said that the brother sister thing weirds him out or something like that
>>4838065Thanks for answering. The anons voting for that option hoping that it would avoid the h-scene would have been disappointed.>>4838067You're right, I'd forgotten about that. Those were indeed Shinji's thought two years ago right after we saved Sakura from the worms. But a lot of things changed in those two years. I can't be bothered to go looking for a more recent affection update, but I think he stopped caring at some point and started caring more about the developing harem.And looking back at the first affection update, the signs for WhatIs's waifu were there if you knew to look. Satsuki got a bigger description in her affection than anyone else.
>>4838053I just want a carnival where 8yo freshly Isekai'd Shinji suddenly has like 3/4ths of his future self's harem descend upon him trying to plant the flag first.It'll be funny
>>4838082>It'll be funnyNot to me.
>>4838084Don't be allergic to fun, carnivals aren't completely canon
>>4838082i think it'd be better if Monica/Touko "accidentally" spill Gil's potion of youth on him
>>4838087So either I find every single joke funny or I'm allergic to fun? Has the thought that people might find different things funny for various reasons never crossed your mind?>>4838088Now that would be funnier than time travelers out to be the first to drain shota Shinji's precious fluids.
Imo Harem does nothing for me, but I can tolerate it so long as the story stays interesting and it doesn't bloat out into dozens of characters each having to compete for screentime over the main plot or we end up with situation where the waifu war jumped from cold to thermonuclear because at some point our pack of yanderes start slipping each other birth control to be the first to have Shinji's natural born kid, my inner monogomy/cupidfag isnt going to be too salty.
>>4838102>our pack of yanderes start slipping each other birth control to be the first to have Shinji's natural born kidSakura is pregnant with quintuplets so too late
>>4838102Thermonuclear waifu war was probably avoided with the dates today, despite some anons' efforts to crash the ship with no survivors. Thank fuck. As for bloat, gotta catch em all. I share your concern. We'll see how it goes.
You'll go and greet the Argonauts yourself, you decide. Excusing yourself from Waver and his group as you head back to the lobby in order to greet the new arrivals. You walk swiftly through the halls in order to preempt their arrival so that you can properly greet them yourselves, and before long you find yourself once more in your entrance hall, just in time for the doors to swing open, and Jason to come waltzing into your house like he owned the place. Which is kind of humorous, considering he's actually completely homeless right now. Even the boat he'd normally have slept in has been turned into a girl, and while she could theoretically turn back into a boat, it would probably just feel uncomfortable to actually... well, sleep inside of the boat. Just... it's just kind of off-putting, really."Good evening, Jason. I see you made your way to my house without much difficulty." You cheerfully greet the captain of the Argo, and the people who follow closely behind him slowly filter into the lobby. Castor and Pollux, Caenis and Asclepius. The remaining Argonauts who aren't already in the house or already in attendance in the Dining Room"That's right, I did. Your palace is quite impressive, actually." Jason compliments your house on the size, and you almost scoff, this is actually one of your smaller houses on account of it being in a city, where space is many many times expensive than it would otherwise be elsewhere. "I'm quite surprised that you're greeting us yourself though, do you not have any servants?" Jason is clearly trying to impress the girl holding his hand, though it's clear that he needn't try nearly as hard as he currently is. Argo has an expression of admiration on her face as she looks at her captain. There's nothing that Jason could do to ever earn Argo's hatred or scorn, you think. This girl has true unconditional love towards the man, and the man clearly is trying his best to return that love by trying to impress her, it's actually kind of refreshing to see Jason trying to act like a considerate partner.
You can feel another ping on your bounded fields as somebody else comes knocking, this time only a group of two, but you get the feeling you know just who it is scampering up the path to your house before even needing to take a look at them. After all, there's not really many other people it could be heading towards your home. You shake your head to clear your thoughts as you begin to think of a response to Jason. "Unfortunately not, the work of a magus is a very secretive practice, so hiring from the general populace was right out for me." Not just the general populace though, hiring from magi was just as risky, as they would would almost certainly use the excuse of cleaning the house to look at whatever they could attempt to learn from notes and tomes that they came across. "Only recently have I been able to employ those whom I consider trustworthy." You don't really know if you consider Ishtar or BB trustworthy, but whatever. Giselle is trustworthy, as are Sella and Leysritt. "I see. Well, I can understand that. Having trustworthy allies is important, after all." He's really trying his hardest to show off to Argo, isn't he? You don't really care all that much though, the relationship is one that is built on a genuine foundation of mutual love, even if Jason likely never thought that he'd ever actually get to love his boat like he might love a woman. He can thank you for that later.Just at that moment, the door opens up again, and a monkey girl and her beleaguered looking Master walk into the lobby, behind the Argo. "So, I heard you were plotting a feast!" Sun Wukong makes a completely obvious assessment of the situation, and you just stare at her."Yes, you heard that because I told you, monkeybrain." You sigh in irritation at the sudden intrusion of the monkey girl, and the rest of the Argonauts are looking at the newest arrival with curiosity. Wukong doesn't even really seem to care about the insult you just threw at her, probably not even realizing that what you said was meant as an insult and instead choosing to take it as a compliment. Still, now that it looks like everyone that you invited from outside the house has arrived, it seems like you can finally start the feast!>Take everyone to the Dining Hall and actually start the Feast.>Say something to one of the new arrivals (What?)>Flirt with Pollux to try to annoy Castor again.>Go check on the kitchen after taking them to the Dining Hall.>Go check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.>Write-in...
>>4838147>>Flirt with Pollux to try to annoy Castor again.>>Go check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.I don't want Pollux I just want to make Castor angry
>>4838152but it's best to bully him only when Alcides is around so he has someone he idolises dab on him for insulting ningens
>>4838165we can do both
OK time to go sleeeeeeep for me.Before I condemn myself to my time of rest, I'm gonna ask for suggestions for the Carnival.
>>4838172You have Shota Shinji on the list right?
>>4838180Shota Shinji (Time Travel) or (Potion)?
>>4838172Shinji meets Shinji Ikari
>>4838186Potion sounds funnier
>>4838186both, maybe use time travel later incase Monika dies
>>4838147>>Go check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.>>4838152>I don't want Pollux I just want to make Castor angryI hate having to sound like a one note pony but I would support if I didn't have PTSD from how the last time voted to flirt with non-committed subtext turned out >>4838186Time travel now, potion after we get back Monica
>>4838203i actually don't remember, when was that?
>>4838207Sorry, I meant I would support but the last time I voted to flirt with non-committal intent in a fate quest Circefags got cucked by Lily
>>4838225i feel like its safe but u do u anon
>>4838147>Call Medusa back in to the entryway>introduce monke to Argo + crew while waiting for her>as Medusa arrives mention that Pollux's looks are second to only one in the room, as you then introduce Medusa>mention Medusa actually looks even cuter with glasses, however she's kindly lent them out for the evening>Promote Medusa as not a monster if anyone seethes, mention how she too was wronged by Poseidon to Caenis, and mention what a pathetic cuck he is, and him meeting his match to a female explorer in the Age of Exploration>mention to Castor because he loves Gods so much, he gets to babysit Medusa's sisters this evening, two Truly Incarnated Goddesses >Usher the group towards the dining room, having Medusa show them the way as you head off to check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.Time to clear Medusa's legend as a monster to those most likely to view her as one. Sanctuary bounded field act 1
>>4837886>I hate you a little.It is fine. I hate you a little too.It is important part of building friendship after all!>>4837965>>4837993>fucking english and your fucking lack of words for important concepts>Fuck english, there's a perfectly fine word for this. You shouldn't lump everything into "love" and try to describe the differences with hack phrases.And see that you can be really based if you want to.
>>4838147>Go check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.Castor will take update place from cool lad like Karna so he go fuck himself.And flirting with Pollux would have been more fun if Luvia was present anyway. We could have set up for Pollux to gently dominate Luvia in the ring with a proper write-in about admiring her muscles.
>>4838482>We could have set up for Pollux to gently dominate Luvia in the ring with a proper write-in about admiring her muscles.ok this is actually a good ass idea holy fuck, though i don't know what the difference is between flirting with Pollux now or later, flirting with her now is just to antagonize Castor imo
>>4838147Switching from >>4838482 to>Have a friendly chat with Pollux about martial arts and dedication to studying them, shill Bajiquan and Killing Arts are their advantages and tell her that you have quite a lot of people around who are also into it>Involve Miyako in talks too>Go introduce Pollux to Karna and Vritra while also checking on their current situation with Shuten>Don`t pay much attention to Castor like he is some background character but avoid being directly rude as courtesy of a proper host
And nobody mentioned it before but Taiga is now aware about Shinji being higher dimensional human because of Alaya.
>>4837939>And apparently Medusa likes the glasses too, good.I think she just considers them personally important because they are gift from us. And we ask her to lend them to another girl. Well we’ll make it up to her I expect.Supporting this >>4838526I think flirting with Pollux just to antagonize Castor is cruel to her and needlessly petty to him.
>>4838643I don’t think Alaya would let the knowledge seep in that direction.
>>4838147Forgot to link vote to prompt.>>4838678 in support of >>4838526
>>4838152That's a shitty reason to flirt with her. You're using her as nothing but a pawn to make her brother angry. Our flirting is a weapon of mass destruction and should be used responsibly.>>4838163I am disappointed in you nigger. Weren't you supposed to care about your waifu?>>4838186I said I don't find the time travel version fun, and that's still the case.>>4838207I hate to sound like a one note pony, but part of the nigger's reasoning when he proposed us riding Vritra when we were running from the explosion was that it would reinforce our relationship being non-romantic. We know how that turned out. I know this wasn't flirting, but we should be very careful with how the girl takes our actions.>>4838239Nigger, Medusa is sitting with us. We changed your plan while you were away. I still don't understand why you wanted her exiled to the greekoid containment table.
>>4838735I know she's sitting with us now, I want to test just how good Sanctuary is and show people who would be aware of her that she's not a monster. Remember greek heroes are the most likely to view her that way, and anons seemed to have felt bad about missing the glasses comment before. I didn't really want her exiled, I wanted them to get along with her which is why I shilled for a peaceful type of Bounded Field so much so some of the less toxic relationships in the room could actually be smoothed over over dinner. I know this might seem a little contradictory with kangz table rejection, but "We are fundamentally enemies and we will kill one another for territory in time" is a bit different to table conversations along the lines of "Wow, Poseidon sure is a cunt, isn't he? Shut up Castor you're not even a real God". It's actually because she's now with us I'd want to try and engage the changing of greekoid perceptions now while they're here with us, before Caenis is drunk under the table who is someone who could really resonate with her.Anon's suggestion is also good, just different.
>>4838735>nigger's reasoning when he proposed us riding Vritra when we were running from the explosion was that it would reinforce our relationship being non-romantic. I am 99% sure that was an inside job and a ruse.
>>4838735I know she's sitting with us now, I want to test just how good Sanctuary is and show people who would be aware of her that she's not a monster. Remember greek heroes are the most likely to view her that way, and anons seemed to have felt bad about missing the glasses comment before.I didn't really want her exiled, I wanted them to get along with her which is why I shilled for a peaceful type of Bounded Field so much so some of the less toxic relationships in the room could actually be smoothed over over dinner. I know this might seem a little contradictory with kangz table rejection, but "We are fundamentally enemies and we will kill one another for territory in time" is a bit different to table conversations along the lines of "Wow, Poseidon sure is a cunt, isn't he? Shut up Castor you're not even a real God". It's actually because she's now with us I'd want to try and engage the changing of greekoid perceptions now while they're here with us, before Caenis is drunk under the table. As she's someone who could really resonate with her.Anon's suggestion is also good, just different.>>4838749Who can say?
>>4838749Although I genuinely found smol Vrita more attractive, the height increase was a negative for me
>>4838749Make that 100%. The nigger lies constantly. He'll say anything he thinks he needs to say to get people to go along with his retarded autism, even if it's contrary to what he's said before. Never trust that he's told you his real reasons. I imagine him chuckling that people keep falling for this.>>4838751I know that the greekoids will view her as a monster nigger. I told you that when I asked you to move her to our table because she'd be miserable with the greekoids who rejoiced at her death and her toxic sisters. And it seems EXTREMELY contradictory and hypocritical after how you dealt with the rest of the seating plan. And I'm not just talking about the king table. You moved Kairi when I asked you to. You moved Nero when anons asked you to. Yet you refused to move Medusa from the table of the people who hate her to the table of the people who love her. So I don't believe that's the real reason you wanted her there, because it makes no sense and it's the opposite of what you did for everyone else.
>>4838753>not liking both bigger girls and smaller girlsShame.
>>4838777>and her toxic sisters>toxicAre you still enthralled by Shapeless Isles dead ends stories?
>>4838799I've been greatly enjoying all the creative ways vorefren has been finding to agonizingly kill Alberich, yeah.
>>4838777 I am satisfied with the outcomes of his autism in broad strokes so far, so I am not irritated, I just have to be cautious in the future.
>>4838803>I've been greatly enjoying all the creative ways vorefren has been finding to agonizingly kill Alberich, yeah.>"Die." The girl doesn't have anything else to say but a nearly inaudible whisper as she looks down at you with an expression of pure hatred and loathing, just kept hidden from the face of her concerned husband. The hidden side of Sakura Emiya revealing itself to you in your final moments as you begin to sink downwards, as if the floor had become quicksand. Your soul finally freezes up in terror as you look at the woman, in your mind, you can see her eyes as pools of merciless red crimson, and her hair as white as the powdered bones of victims trodden underfoot. This girl... This girl was the most dangerous participant in this whole grail war all along. It wasn't You, or Achilles, or Odin. No, it was this seemingly ordinary woman, who only ever wanted to live a quiet life with the man that she loved.Dark Sakurautist.
>>4838806His plans that passed always worked in the short-term, but always come with long-term costs that I am not satisfied with. But at least I am satisfied that his more retarded autisms have been shot down by anons despite his best efforts to justify them.
>>4838815My favorite part by far, yes.
>>4838751whats the big brain plan for your waifu Pollux then?
>>4838838He is planning to give her a tomboy sister by using divine core of Pollux and her connection to Castor during concept application.
>>4838777Honestly was just trying to avoid bloating Shinji's table and didn't think she'd have much issues with the bounded field as a fall back. I'm trying to give her a moment now aren't I?I don't lie, I just vote for entertainment. Sometimes after reflection I can actually change my perspective on things. More Chaotic Neutral than being outright malicious. I want the quest to continue, and I've always been a 100% completionist in terms of survival, I just don't find the working through the ums and ahs of romance all that particularly engaging. >>4838849How did you know?
>>4838879>spoiler If you find a way to do it without using up our Divinity concept and use some duality/contagion stuff with Pollux and them sharing a Saint Graph, that's worth it for me. I think that concept will have a very important use later that we can't see right now.
>>4838818Do you know how good businesses and governments work? You kick problems down the road so they can be dealt with in time from a better position. You borrow from the future to have a strong position in the present, constantly robbing Peter to pay Paul.Shy do you think I was autisming up some autistic tree and eternal paradise? It's to pave over any issues left standing when the debt comes knocking. You're always better dealing with something tomorrow than failing to manage a problem today.>>4838882I was mashing up ideas of the Divine Feminine, Duality, or even Consanguinity
>>4838893Also ask Aoko, this works for her too.
>>4838879Great minds think alike.And I talked with you about it before.
>>4838899Are you loreautism anon? new ids so can't tell yet.No one commented on this YHWH = Dragon and Seraph = Serpents of Fire/dragons autism I posted earlier, which would be pretty funny if applied to this quest with Snakecharmer: EXhttps://youtu.be/XogaHpV5oUs
>>4838893 Another direction is trying to exploit "human history". Both are remembered as brothers, one is female. The female one is divine and has greater spiritual rank from so, try to elevate the other to the same "level" and base it on similarity. Both being the sameish is a part of history, etc. >>4838907If you mean texture autism+all the quotes that's me.
Also Sakurafren, having native greekoid perspective is there a specific term for the Divine Feminine, or a Divine Sisterhood type of thing? Sorority doesn't mean what I thought it did.The twins are greek, so a greek concept is probably best
>>4838913You could also try to use>In ancient Greece, the appearance of a single one was called Helene (Ancient Greek: Ἑλένη), literally meaning "torch", and two were called Castor and Polydeuces, names of the mythological twin brothers of Helen.Some kind of Helen based wordplay concept or similarity as being born from the same egg in assimilated history.
>>4838911ye that one.everything is snakes/dragons interesting or no? I'll keep thinking on the concept in the background anyway. We'll see if Sakura has ideas.I actually don't have plans to wife Pollux, I just think she's cute. Honestly, I'd prefer if Karna had someone to help him open up more. I care about making males happy too.>>4838921Helen is why they're so qt too, they inherited her looks. That's probably the best base honestly as it gives them origin autism too.
>>4838879>Honestly was just trying to avoid bloating Shinji's tableThat's exactly what I thought, and why my own plan said that I didn't want to kick Medusa out of our table so Gil could have her spot. You never admitted until this moment though. You always tried to justify kicking Medusa out as if it was best for her.>I don't lieI'm sorry, I really am, but I don't believe you. Not anymore. You've said too many contradictory and mutually exclusive things to justify not budging. See above for a recent example. We discussed Medusa's place in depth, and never once did you admit that you wanted to kick her out just to make space in our room. And I assume you didn't because you knew that's a shitty reason to kick her out, and anons might be less likely to support your plan if you'd admitted it.>I've always been a 100% completionist in terms of survivalThere are more things than survival. There are worse consequences than death. You always ignore those consequences, or perhaps you even welcome them.>I just don't find the working through the ums and ahs of romance all that particularly engaging.You should have thought of that before you tried to add romance in your powergaming, nigger. IF you're telling the truth.>spoilerAnd then you ask why I think you constantly lie? Nigger, you lied about that concept too!>>4838893Nigger, I live in a country that was DESTROYED by that logic. You've already made "pay denbts" jokes, I haven't forgotten. Kicking problems down the road only makes them larger and more difficult to deal with. You HAVE to pay the piper at some point, the future you're borrowing from will eventually come to pass, and you will suddenly find yourself unable to borrow anymore. You're always better dealing with something today than letting the problem fester for tomorrow.Tree and eternal paradise don't pave over the problems nigger. We'll STILL have to manage the relationships that you get so bored by. We're spending an eternity with these people, and you want to skip our interactions with them. How do you expect the tree will pave over this problem?>>4838913None that come to mind, let me check some greekoid sources. I'll come back to you.
>>4838907I should get autistic and start namefagging at some point just to shill my Concepts more even though they get in anyway. Now vote to help me prepare for martial arts tournament arc after the war.Plus I brought up being BLESSED dragon core few times already. It has interesting implications with our circuits's special qualities with drainig area around us and transfering power.
>>4838921>>4838913If this is the plan we're going to use to elevate Castor we better ask him before which is more important to him, his penis or his divinity.Also consider the risk in playing with the myth that it won't backfire, turning Pollux into a guy instead. Although that one could probably be remedied by a feminine upgrade for her/them.
>>4838922If you take this dragon YHWH thing, it puts the apocryphal texts about Jesus in his childhood taking control over dragons super easily, the pre-creation battle with water-serpents/dragons in the watery chaos into an interesting light, not to mention the Revelations dragon.As for the El thing, there is the whole angels being called "bene elohim" sometimes, children of god, being possibly a reference to an old version where angels were more pantheon-like than later depictions, even without the multiple great gods and El thing.Though it places his watery chaos based chaoskampf narrative into a light thats more like a fight about who rules than a pure chaos/ordered thing.
>>4838923It was a shit reason ye, but ultimately WhatIs didn't seem to have a problem with her there as well though. So I'm glad it worked out as it did. I'm trying to balance what is "fun" but also what is reasonable to write as I try to think from the author's perspective a lot. I'm also trying to pick up things and learn how to eventually pen my own quest assuming life gives me time.Also, about the concept, I didn't say how he'd get Divinity :^) He is probably the best current use for it, but there is always a future to consider and as concepts are one offs I can't just make that next year's problem, it's one shot.As a quest, dealing with it now isn't always "fun" and might require using less resources than would be available in the future. Look at just how much Shinji has progressed in resources and connections in just a few days of in story time. Infinite time means infinite opportunity to fulfil obligations to others, remember in story we're only a few days or even hours into our interactions with some characters, so it's not exactly unheard of to put off their resolutions for days, if not weeks as we uhh, save reality? Was it? Also as time goes on the toolkit becomes more equipped and we can use one character's niche to solve another's problem at near no cost. Look at how Chiyome has been for something that plagues so many people.>>4838931Consider how BLESSED dragon core interacts with YHWH = Dragon translations from Hebrew texts. Might cause Apotheosis to a degree or grant an Authority.
>>4838921I'm not sure where the wiki got that from, but Helene doesn't mean "torch". It means "bright", and its etymology is close to Selene.Can't find anything specific "divine feminine". It's always just Thea, or "Θεα", which just means "goddess".>>4838931Yes you should, texture anon. Join us in namefaggotry, it's always easy to tell who you are after a while in any thread anyway.
>>4838939>texture anonBut...that's me.
>>4838939>I'm not sure where the wiki got that from, but Helene doesn't mean "torch". It means "bright", and its etymology is close to Selene.As for this, the cite says:"Lyd. Ost. 5; the term was also used of a special wicker basket used at the cult of Artemis at Brauron in Attica (Poll. 10.191)."So who knows.
>>4838936My tl;dr take when shilling it to WhatIs this morning was El = og Creator God, we don't know if we're talking to YHWH or El himself, probably El considering he's on par with Azathoth.The Council of El are 12 great dragons that were given providence over the planet and tend to appear high up in each texture's pantheon. YHWH is the highest among the council, I'd probably put Tiamat at #2. Quetz would be up there, then you've got all the rest of unspecified tier like the Demiurge, Leviathan, Jormungandr, Typhoon and all the rest, and their children etc. Seraph/ANgels could have been redescribed in other textures as their lesser but still high tier dragons like Orochi for example.
>>4838938For this you need to apply Divinity to our Dragon Core. Remember perpetuality idea and Mordred?Core should make us Sigurd but better.>>4838939>texture anonHow could you mistaken me. And thought we were friends!
>>4838947>DemiurgeDo you mean the greek-ish demiurge which is the potter imagery etc, or the gnostic aeons? Cause if you do the second, then you bring in the syzygy and you're probably gonna need a counterpart to El, who would most likely be equated to The One, unless you're placing this God above the whole hierarchy. Though the Aeons would be an interesting thing to bring up. A rival faction to the whole family tree of Outer Gods?
How about a nice rousing round of vore for you all on this fine evening?
>>4838947Also going off Genesis style of creation, if each day is more like an age the first life created is closer in form to the way the feathered winged dragons in hebrew text are described. You have scaled attributes in fish, elongated body design and tails etc. too. Then you have the creatures that fly, with the same feathered wings and forms of dragons.You also have the creation of the three Primordial dragons, Ziz, Behemoth and Leviathan, each having some but not all features of the fire breathing flying feathered serpents of hebrew lore. Then, you could say YHWY assumed the humanoid form as something to act as a Shepard, and then made Man in that image to "observe" and shape reality through observation?The dragon wank is already really strong in nasuverse, why else are they able to passively create mana and just say fuck thermodynamics? It's almost like that form is just inherently closer to a higher tier being I guess.
>>4838938>It was a shit reason yeAnd you didn't admit that was the reason until now. That's why I don't believe you anymore, nigger. It's not the first time you've done this, and it won't be the last.You lied about Divinity nigger. You said Castor would be the only one we could apply it to without drawbacks. This is the first time you're talking about the drawbacks, and you wouldn't have done it if that anon hadn't figured out your masterplan.I find solving problems fun. I find not having to worry about the future fun. I am very happy that we resolved the shinjibowl today instead of kicking the can down the road and making the problem worse. We are currently reaping the fruits of this, our table wouldn't have been possible if we had left the dates and the explanation for a vague tomorrow. It'd be the usual oblivious Shinji and catfight around us, and I wouldn't find that fun at all. ESPECIALLY after we confessed to Sakura with no clarification, leading her to have certain expectations that would not be met. Those would be the consequences of your autism if we had delayed dealing with the problem, nigger. Would you find that fun?>we can use one character's niche to solve another's problem at near no costWe are talking about relationships, nigger. How exactly do you propose we do that? Make Nero head wife and let her wrangle the rest so we don't have to deal with their problems while we just interact with them only to fuck them? Would that be your ideal solution?>>4838942speedreading bad, I didn't realize you were two different ids. Sorry texture anon.>>4838943Wouldn't be the first time the wiki got something wrong. I assume the ancients named that special wicker basket with the name for "bright" just to make it more special. Torch is "Πυρσός", for the record.>>4838949speedreading bad, I really am sorry. Samefaggotry would solve that problem.
>>4838952I got Manticore, I got Dragon Daughter and I got Snake Daughter.
>>4838956I will only need your stories where Alberich gets killed.
>>4838952Check >>4837690>>4838956>ManticoreIt is time.
>>4838957Watch chad Manticore making Alberich kneel.
>>4838953>Also going off Genesis style of creation, if each day is more like an ageDay of a human world, compared to day of Brahman type stuff, eh?The Behemoth thing, that one is pretty important if you also take into account "The Wonders of Creatures and the Marvels of Creation" and a similar text of "Book of Imaginary Beings" as a collection of tales/traditions. "God made the earth, but the earth had no base and so under the earth he made an angel. But the angel had no base and so under the angel’s feet he made a crag of ruby. But the crag had no base and so under the crag he made a bull endowed with four thousand eyes, ears, nostrils, mouths, tongues and feet. But the bull had no base and so under the bull he made a fish named Bahamut, and under the fish he put water, and under the water he put dark-ness, and beyond this men’s knowledge does not reach....So immense and dazzling is Bahamut that the eyes of man cannot bear its sight. All the seas of the world, placed in one of the fish’s nostrils, would be like a mustard seed laid in the desert. In the 496th night of the Arabian Nights we are told that it was given to Isa (Jesus) to behold Bahamut and that, this mercy granted, Isa fell to the ground in a faint, and three days and their nights passed before he recovered his senses."Where, the Bahamut is a rendition of what can also be Behemoth.
>>4838957Have all of em.Manticore eats Alberich: https://0bin.net/paste/3zAw+E7l#YFgR1lneM8haTr05jnAYNnp99R4wF7hAVdK7YsZG-GeOurobora eats Gorgon Sisters: https://0bin.net/paste/vVAMCby0#wkvINhtJ4LANQ4frpVa5TYLqVONOio4aEzGU+p1gKDVAlitheia eats a lot of people: https://0bin.net/paste/qp6YSU40#kEOEWYS+s3dLDZqLPfGzDLyqmrdCbRQbuXoGisjd-s7
>>4838951Going off the chaoskampf, Revelations, etc. there is likely a fall or fight between rival dragons across most, whether it's a Darwinian strongest rule or if it's just NOOO IT'S MY TOY AHHHHH DIE interaction between them who knows? But the tug of war between who gets to be on top happens across most textures mythology so I'd say counterparts definately exist. Look at Manjew vs Ahura Mazda's conflict for one example I guess?>>4838955I wouldn't have delayed Sakura and Medea too long, but the rest and being stuck in perpetual SoL when there's still an immediate threat makes me antsy. I'm fine with SoL, but I MUST SOLVE PROBLEM when it comes to looming threat next door and everything else is just a distraction, tunnelvision stronk.Also, future uses coming to light aren't lying, at the time I couldn't think of what else it would be useful for. I'm getting ideas even now as loreanon and I sperg about it. I'd have passed a polygraph at the time I originally said it. You know people can genuinely change their minds right? I constantly update based on new evidence, I'm a scientist after all. Nero being head Stacy would be the most time effective solution, but in this scenario it'd be wrong and also out of character so I won't see a reason to. Also I find cooming cringe, notice I even even vote when it comes to those scenarios, I just let anons enjoy whatever they want. I think I had like 2 days without votes when it came to the shower and Tamamo dates, and only stepped in to escape Tesla because everyone forgot about the sanic bunny mystic code she literally just made
>>4838964I'll admit I kind of neglect sandnigger YHWHism over Hebrew and Christianity, there's only one character relevant to what I've been researching for my own autism.>>4838965ENTER
>>4838951Going off the chaoskampf, Revelations, etc. there is likely a fall or fight between rival dragons across most, whether it's a Darwinian strongest rule or if it's just NOOO IT'S MY TOY AHHHHH DIE interaction between them who knows? But the tug of war between who gets to be on top happens across most textures mythology so I'd say counterparts definately exist. Look at Manjew vs Ahura Mazda's conflict for one example I guess?>>4838955I wouldn't have delayed Sakura and Medea too long, but the rest and being stuck in perpetual SoL when there's still an immediate threat makes me antsy. I'm fine with SoL, but I MUST SOLVE PROBLEM when it comes to looming threat next door and everything else is just a distraction, tunnelvision stronk.Also, future uses coming to light aren't lying, at the time I couldn't think of what else it would be useful for. I'm getting ideas even now as loreanon and I sperg about it. I'd have passed a polygraph at the time I originally said it. You know people can genuinely change their minds right? I constantly update based on new evidence, I'm a scientist after all.Nero being head Stacy would be the most time effective solution, but in this scenario it'd be wrong and also out of character so I won't see a reason to. Also I find cooming cringe, notice I rarely even vote when it comes to those scenarios, I just let anons enjoy whatever they want. I think I had like 2 days without votes when it came to the shower and Tamamo dates, and only stepped in to escape Tesla because everyone forgot about the sanic bunny mystic code she literally just made
>>4838970Put these dudes against the Outer Gods family tree roster.
>>4838965>Unfortunately, the attack, when it comes, makes no sound at all, only the faintest gust of wind can be felt, before a searing pain rocks your body as two 15 centimeter spines are driven into the Achilles tendon of both of your feet. You try to spin around to defend yourself despite the agony, but you instead end up toppling to the floor, your legs incapable of supporting such a movement. WhatIs will love this one.And Manticore still killed less people comparing to Alberich.
>>4838973Put them on a spic dbz powerscale firstDaughter is stronk. We should concept her with her True Name
>>4838973Also Sophia for Medea? Sounds like a feminine and also greek version of Wisdom. Giving her something fitting but also Solomon tier meguca, she could create a new era of Magecraft in the age of Truth
>>4838974Seeing as Alberich killed a Tokyo city block just to heal his woundsYe
>Sophia (Koinē Greek: σοφία sophía "wisdom") is a central idea in Hellenistic philosophy and religion, Platonism, Gnosticism and Christian theology.Sakura, y/n?
>>4838980Decided not to pursue our physics autism from few threads ago?
>>4838978Would using Logos on her make her HSDW evolve retard good?I still want to see if we can use Unified Language and HSDW based on one of our God allies + Truth to make something cool.
>>4837690I might do this and also Roland's horse eating him.Wanna do something with Vritra too tho.
>>4838983I've been distracted a lot and might have forgotten, but Sakura is pretty set on Mystery so I wanted to see if this tickled him any differently. Checking against his greekoid etymology.>>4838984If you write an autistic essay to give WhatIs ideas how it works it probably will. Gotta remember the really esoteric concepts might not come out as indented as he is only human
>>4838986Now I want to write something for Medusa too.
>>4838988Maybe Medusa eating Alberich when he tries to kidnap her?
>>4838988>>4838990Gorgon and her hairsnakes.
>>4838988The most powerful man on /qst/
>>4838965The Manticore was surprisingly cultured.>>4838970>I wouldn't have delayed Sakura and Medea too longI don't believe you. You opposed dealing with romance at all today and you wanted to skip it all, including Sakura and Medea. You'd have said we should focus on preparing for Manaka in the next few days, so this all goes for post-war, leaving us all in the usual "can't show affection or the gremlins will get me" hell for all this time.>I'm fine with SoL, but I MUST SOLVE PROBLEM when it comes to looming threat next door and everything else is just a distraction, tunnelvision stronk.I empathize. That's exactly my mentality when it comes to relationships. I MUST SOLVE PROBLEM to make girls and people happy, Manakas and the threat to the world are just distractions to what's actually important: people.>Also, future uses coming to light aren't lying, at the time I couldn't think of what else it would be useful forLet me just quote yourself then:>>4838849>He is planning to give her a tomboy sister by using divine core of Pollux and her connection to Castor during concept application.>>4838879>How did you know?That's not future uses, nigga. That's lying about what you wanted to do with Castor.As for constantly updating, I don't believe you either. Not entirely, at least. You certainly update to an extend, and you have amended some of your plans in the past based on my objections and those of others. But you've been digging your heels in more and more lately, and trying to justify that in any way you can. See Medusa, for example. You instantly made space for Nero at our table without a second thought, but not for her. And all for what you admitted was a shitty reason.I don't believe you about Nero either. You've been shilling her hard about absolutely everything, and you always go for the most effective solution, other considerations be damned. I am fully expecting you to start pushing for this in the future. Time will tell, I suppose. I am ashamed I did not think of Tamamo's bunny suit myself. It was so obvious in retrospect.>>4838978>>4838980Sophia is pretty much a direct translation for "wisdom", and WhatIs has confirmed Wisdom is a concept that obliterates personalities for those not exceptionally compatible with it like Enkidu was. I don't think Medea qualifies.>>4838987I still favor Mystery over all of the power-related concepts that have been proposed, but I think I prefer Agape now. You probably don't approve of that though.>>4838990That'd be fun.
>>4838987The basic idea is that HSDW can make you use a part of a God's authority via words. Unified Language was a universal, common thing that reached directly to souls and the Root and communicated perfectly. Probably only possible with us or Alitheia, but I could see a way to make to Truth the "authority substitue" and the "Root substitute " in some kind of hybrid via these two, and using our soul, as our soul may have a better link to Truth than most souls have or had to the Root.Even if it only improves our already extant truthcasting, it would be worth it. if it works best we'll get Umineko Truths to go with our Golden Sword of Truth Does this chain make sense to start with? Refinements to the idea to come.
>>4838997Also, Divine Spirit=Authority, Shinji=Truth, especially in RM arias running.
>>4838987Hyperuranion is still very solid idea. And he already outgreek me with female dragon girl word on greek. Scythian Echidna may sway him though.
>>4838997Wasn't this supposed to be something for Medea?>>4838999How is Hyperuranion a solid idea? And don't answer about how powerful it would be, I don't give a damn about it and Medea doesn't either, but about the connection the concept has with Medea.
>>4838996Manticore was cultured in Awakening too.Also there's a canon bad end where he eats Alberich, in the canon end he just crushes Alberich's head first though.
>>4839000>Wasn't this supposed to be something for Medea?The Logos concept yes, this, no.Logos just reminded me of all the super powerful Word based stuff.
>>4838996At the time I proposed it, I didn't have it in mind, it came after. I couldn't think of anything useful for Divine at the time, anon bringing up Divine for the dragoncore just a few posts ago gave one solid alternative though. Shinji is one of the few people that can also take on Divinity without it fucking him. I hadn't even thought of that because I try not to powergame Shinji in that way, I always prefer tools to raw stats because it makes encounters more interesting to plan and read. Remember I've always thought dragoncore was a bit ehh but it will be what it'll be. I like tools, hence Ares' Sash etc. being a gimme dat Alcides thing for me. Also Item Con. I kind of regret being a lurker for the first part of the quest and not suggesting it actually. But being restricted in tools also makes a scenario fun to deal with.I wouldn't want this quest to be all about Nero as head wife, that gives me less material and people might get sick of her. I'm shilling her powerset because her powers here besides IP are very different to mine, so that won't cuck me out of scenarios but it still generates good anon discussion that I can steal as research and also use ideas that anons already like myself. IP has so many retarded uses and I'd never come up with as many satisfying combos as a collective of anons spitballing ideas here.I was actually talking to WhatIs how Nero could feasibly convert Aestus Estus into Marmydose due to her constant hercLARPing and the sword's shared Origins in Mt. Vesuvius being Vulcan's forge, along with her ability to grant herself A+ Divinity to wield it if she so chose.Romewank is stronk in Fate too.I actually don't have any strong ideas for Medea's concept personally. She has a huge bag of tricks and railroading her might be detrimental and restrictive.
>>4839008>I like tools, hence Ares' Sash etc. being a gimme dat Alcides thing for me. Also Item Con. I kind of regret being a lurker for the first part of the quest and not suggesting it actually. But being restricted in tools also makes a scenario fun to deal with.Is the opposite for me. All these items and shit are boring. Gimme that inherent ability to bend reality with magic or punch people apart.
>>4839000Medea above god-tier.But if you feel that bad about it we just concept Land of Shadow or new Kur with it.
>>4838997If Medea intakes enough Truth coom she might qualify too. WhatIs never answered my "Does a continual intake of Truth make a character more 'real'?" He just shilled Satsuki who has grown exponentially from her high intake so I think that might also answer it.
>>4839010I like pure grug 100% or batman toolkit, middleground is a bit ehh.
>>4838965>Ourobora eats Gorgon SistersFinished it. Those two gremlins fully deserved it.
>>4839010>punch people apart.Wuxia Shinji part 2.
Current ideas.>Ayaka reverses her ritual and absorbs Alberich and Roland>Roland's horse eats Alberich>Medusa eats Alberich unintentionally during his attempted kidnap>Adelheid eats Rushorou after he botches the coffee>Vritra eats Shinji and Sakura after a threesome but lets them out.>Snakegirls/Dragon girls go wild eating the rest of the Paradox cast.>Good Titania eats Alberich in a mental landscape and gets adopted by the Emiya>Sakura summons Fenrir to vore Odin and Liliesviel>Oni Sister goes yandere mode and eats all of Alberich's waifus>Oni Sister eats Alberich and Ayaka on their first meeting>Tiger Dojo Taiga eats Alberich for killing Shirou >Tiger Dojo Illya eats Alberich for killing Shirou>Tiger Dojo is invaded by Saber Lion who eats everyone.And prob some more idk
>>4839017The Orochi sentiment leaking through Ourobora is very based btw.
>>4839017Also good lad, you included Fenris
>>4839016We can still punch people apart if we learn Pankration (and boxing?) from Alcides and Pollux, Bajiquan from IP Nero, stuff from Karna, and whatever Scathach teaches.Dragoncore reinforcement+Burst should let us keep up minimum to learn, if we want to continue the path of swole.Not like we wont have the time.
>>4839017>Good Titania eats Alberich in a mental landscape and gets adopted by the EmiyaDon't forget to have emotional HF-like scene that was talked about in previous thread.
Also the Gospel of Vore gives Ourobura Trash and Crush when chomping Gods I guess?
>>4839018The two were the most suitable prey for her.She later went on to eat Shuten, not Alitheia, in case it wasn't clear.>>4839019Ofc.Vorepuppy is based.
>>4839020Combinig various martial arts with Mana Burst and our Killing Arts to finish our own style? Truth Fist? Dragon Style?
>>4839022Of course.>>4839023She's only a smol girl, she needed the help.
>>4839025With multiple styles you could get multiple uses out of the Snake Style first encounter buff.... maybe?
>>4839024Shuten would get her really drunk
Also, vorechad gets a really neat encore performance in /qtg/ after he unloads here too. Adds to the entertainment
>>4839027If we combine Bajiquan with it we can make it work like that already. Fist, sword, spear and so on.>>4839017And you forgot Angra scene.
>>4839003And Logos is to be applied to Medea just because of one skill she has, yes? That's why I object to all power-related concepts for her.>>4839008I regret being a lurker as well, for entirely different reasons.Your constant shilling of Nero is already beginning to make me sick of her, and she has done very little in this quest. I can easily see her taking over everything if you have your way.>>4839011And that's precisely the answer I didn't want to get. That's just power-level anon, not how it would fit Medea specifically.>>4839014I am 100% batman toolkit myself. Grug is BORING. I would be mashing the skip button for all battles like you have for social interactions if they were all GRUG SMASH, no thought or planning required.>>4839020We could learn how to take reality apart and put it back together in all kinds of ways with Truth magecraft, create items that would be beyond-divine-artifact level, do all sorts of things that are only possible in a fantasy setting, and you want us to... punch things hard. And not even just by perfecting what we already know, but you want us to use our limited time to learn yet more new styles that we'll almost never get to use, like Snake Style. What's the appeal? I can't see it at all.
>>4839033Oops.Yeah that's also on the table.Alberich being confident and then getting btfo and eaten easily is really fun to write.>>4839029Drunk snek will be fun to write.I think QM memed it once so I need to write my wife Shuten eating Merlin for the succubus trait.
>>4839037You want me to write Sakura eating Nero for you, fren?
>>4839039Shuten eating Merlin might actually be the one vorefic about this quest that I'll read. No promises though.
>>4839040Nah, I don't hate Nero, and I don't want to read Sakura eating people. Thanks for the offer vorefren.
>>4839039Don't forget Alberich having too much pride and fear to chop off his infected arm.>I think QM memed it once so I need to write my wife Shuten eating Merlin for the succubus trait.Based.>>4839037>And that's precisely the answer I didn't want to get.I will rate Medea this high.
>>4839042>the one vorefic about this quest that I'll readYou wouldn't even read one about Sakura making everyone she considers a love rival disappear into Imaginary Number Space?
>>4839037Being greekoid makes you allergic to ROME on a base level, understandable.>>4839039Yeah I asked what would happen if she drank him as a punishment and his response was succ. Seeing as Merlin is a pathetic dindu now she probably won't get to consoom him.
When are we applying vore as a concept?
>>4839037>We could learn how to take reality apart and put it back together in all kinds of ways with Truth magecraftBased and good>create items that would be beyond-divine-artifact levelBoring as fuck unless you're using these items to ascend.If it were "100% batman toolkit" I'd not vote for anything and just post autism in the thread to pass time probably.
Also, notice I haven't actually pushed Nero as a romantic interest, I'm just wanking her powers as a SAVER class servant, something only timetree deleting Siddhartha has existed as in canon before. Nor was I the one to write in Salvation for her, I just warned of the Beast 6 L/R pairing because I'd already done a bunch of work towards it already and starting the Apocalypse is basically a hard game over. Also, considering how Nero is as a base character, did you not expect her to fall for Shinji after she was saved from her Innocent Monster'd in role as the harbinger of the end of Civilisation? Nero has always been someone for the people, Nero bankrolled the repair of Rome when it burned. Do you think she wouldn't fall for someone who liberated her from that fate? I didn't even have to do anything towards that.>>4839053Your existence has applied it to the whole board
>>4839055But I want my wife Shuten to be able to eat people easier.
Voreanon, another idea. Atalanta Alter showing up and going full boar to stop Alberich and save all the kids. Could be about Sakura's daughter with Shirou as her Master.
>>4839059She's gonna get drunk on ambrosia and liquor made of Immortal Peaches and Apples of Hesperides instead
>>4839060Based Cat shows up to eat jobber?>Alberich: all purpose cat food, dragon food, plant food, snake food and bird foodNow I just need to find a dog and a fish to feed him to.
>>4839049Not even that, no. I don't hate any of the love rivals, and her going full Dark Sakura and disappearing them would be too much of a bad end for my tastes.>>4839050I actually have a fairly positive opinion of the real Rome. We DESERVED to get conquered, and the Romans were smart enough to realize their own cultural inferiority and crib from their betters, not to mention all the positives about them and their Empire. I just hate the constant shilling of Rome and Nero for tenuously related things here. I get it, you think she is the solution to every problem, but that just inevitably leads to Nero Quest.Actually, WhatIs, if you're reading, I just had a Carnival Idea: Nero takes over as the protagonist.>>4839055I didn't know enough about Fate Nero's character to have expectations for her. I was certainly not surprised she fell for Shinji immediately, that's what has happened with almost everyone else. But falling for Shinji is very different from making her head wife, or shilling her for absolutely everything, isn't it?As for not pushing her as a romantic interest, that's what you said about Vritra too. I don't believe you anymore nigger.
>>4839065>I just hate the constant shilling of Rome and Nero for tenuously related things here. I get it, you think she is the solution to every problem, but that just inevitably leads to Nero Quest.That's just Fate and Nasu, not nigger exclusive or original idea.>shilling her for absolutely everythingIf Romulus or Quirinus were here I'd shill for their IP too.
>>4839064Actually. Make it normal Atalanta and she just snaps after Alberich starting quoting child belly erotic pasta.>Now I just need to find a dog and a fish to feed him to.Fenrir gets summoned instead of Hecate.Reminder that it was WhatIs's vote in Awakening that resulted in rabbit Hecate.
I like saver Nero desu. She’s sweet and helpful. I could do without her in the wife collection but if she’s happy that’s good enough for me.
>>4839065Nero, as a character is that sort of person though. She will always pull the spotlight towards her. As per actual Fate canon, Rome = Human Order. The setting wanks it whether you want it to be or not. All roads lead to Rome. If it was older Fate I'd be wanking Sumeria or something.
>>4839075>If it was older Fate I'd be wanking Sumeria or something.Gil also indirectly wanks Rome based on explanations.Apparently Nasu remembered Gil was Sumerian not Babylonian, but Gate of Babylon etc refers to Babylon as the "city of sin" which is Rome. Thus the Gate of the "city of sin", which contains everything of human wisdom (civilization).It was there all along (or level 999 ex post facto justification)
>>4839069>That's just Fate and Nasu, not nigger exclusive or original ideaI had no idea about that before the shilling started, and I used to consider myself fairly knowledgeable about the nasuverse. I hate that about the world, and I hate that about the shilling. Almost as much as I hate the mecha greekoids.>>4839071>Reminder that it was WhatIs's vote in Awakening that resulted in rabbit Hecate.???>>4839073I don't mind Nero that much yet, not even as part of the pokemon collection. But I fear her OP sueness leading to her taking over both our relationships and every plan we ever make from now on.>>4839075And I will always fight to pull the spotlight back towards the other characters we've already been neglecting. I'm beginning to wish WhatIs had never had Nero appear.
>>4839078Vague hole being filled with retcon is a nasuverse staple
>>4839071Hecate should be a dog girl anyway, right?Why don't I also have her eat Alberich and the rest of the house to reclaim her power as a goddess?
>>4839079>But I fear her OP sueness leading to her taking over both our relationships and every plan we ever make from now on.I don't know if you noticed my other shillings or lore autisms, but basically a LOT of characters are like that in a vacuum. They are completely "balanced" because they are compared against each other.
>>4839082>>4839079Nero works like female Gil.You don't have a problem with Gil because he's not trying to kill or compete with your wife
>>4839079Nero works like female Gil.You don't have a problem with Gil because he's not trying to kill or compete with your wife
>>4839079Nero is an OP Sue but we're SURROUNDED by characters just as strong bro.Just look at Mordred or Rin.Basically everyone Shinji interacts with is strong enough to be final boss tier if this was a normal setting.
>>4839090Manaka just scales really well as an antagonist which enables this
Also where’s Taigalaya, did I just miss her arrival somewhere? She should have come by now
>>4839091Thanks for reminding me I wanted to write a Manaka story.Might write one for Awakening as well where she exists instead of Ayaka's brother and eats Alberich for being a pathetic lying loser.
>>4839079He rolled super high in sword gacha and received useless goddess for it. I'll show you later.>>4839081>Alberich killed by WhatIsNeat.
>>4839086I only have a problem with the Nero shilling nigger, not with any of the other wives competing with my favorite. I was the one who proposed we resolve the harem today, remember?And Gil is not a good comparison at all. He is an obnoxious asshole with absurd power that we turned into a slightly less of an obnoxious asshole by giving him his girl and his clae. These two will be his first priority, and so there's no danger at all for him taking over. Him liking us but also being the only one not taking commands from us also makes for a nice dynamic. None of that is remotely similar to Nero.>>4839090Everyone else is good at their ONE thing. Nero is good at EVERYTHING, including things like Salvation that only we could do before. Whenever we have a plan that a specific character could do or that could be done in another way, "Why no just have Nero do it instead" will be a viable alternative. We're already considering replacing Li and Miyako as our bajiquan teacher with Nero, and I fear this will only be the beginning.>>4839093I assume she'll be next.
>>4839093She said something about being here in an hour? Should be soon, yeah.
>>4839100Yeah matter of fact she should’ve arrived while we were watching moomins. Should have Medea scry on her and recover her in case she walked into something like Alan.
>>4839101Alaya is a big girl.She can take care of herself.
>>4839101>Should have Medea scry on herEasier to ask Sasaki.
>>4839098>Everyone else is good at their ONE thing.Lmao no.Let me shill some people as examples.I already posted a lot about her syncretism but If I could actually lean fully into her Dainichi Nyorai self (where she even had a treasured light halo like Buddha Saver in Extra), her main self would be YHWH level and she scales accordingly, in CCC she can close combat with Violet due to martial arts and Extella has her able to melee with stacked Heroic Spirits.Karna's astras required austerities and phrases, so he basically should be really good at Indian AoG magecraft to an absurd degree, he most likely knows Kalaripayattu which Saver uses to dunk on everyone, his boxing in Saber class is lightspeed if you take it at face value and if not he can compete with Quetz, Pollux and Martha unarmed even above his retarded gear. His Discernment is broken, he's the Hero of Charity, etc.Morgan is basically Merlin's equal without being an Incubus whose illusions can warp reality by Human Order/physics being the collective dream of mankind, WhatIs made it so Morgan made the Logos React Replica in Case Files, which are miniature Moon Cells that can perfectly simulated timelines so real they can be used to create a mind to revive Arturia if the plan is carried out, she is most likely a three-in-one type deal with multiple souls, etc, and one of her selves is described as a warrior so I'd expect her to be as good at melee as Merlin who is much better than he has any right to be.Tesla's Systema Keraunos isn't just magic eating or anything, Tesla is the one who does most of the heavy lifting in LB5 to create the Grand Summoning invocation that summons Quirinus, meaning he did in less than a day the life's work of the Three Families, but miles better. It bearing the name of Keraunos means its at least connected to the World Discipline Keraunos, which is planet level at 35% Zeus' NP equivalent, it seems his general fuckery extends to this not just his space-time quacking lightning bolts if he has juice.Merlin, even above what was said cobbled together a Beast or Void exclusive Independent Manifestation skill from his random magecrafts, and is good enough to sword with the likes of the Round Table Knights, has bullshit clairvoyance.Gil is Gil. Enkidu is Enkidu, they can both do basically anything. Betty could theoretically make entire servant races like Shoggoths for us, if we wanted to, who could be custom made to fulfil any role.Arc's Marble Phantasm can do anything "nature" can do, which doesn't mean the Human Order. It means nature, as in where dragons and gods existed. In Melty she summons the crimson moon from 1000 years in the future to make TATARI killable, as per his contract thats when he turns back into a normal DA instead of a phenomenon. Ilya is straight busted now, plus she may have all the knowledge and expertise of every Juzteaze type homunculus to go with her goddess powers and Wish Authority.Too long now.
>>4839104That makes her a valuable target when she’s relatively isolated.
>>4839109>I already posted a lot about her syncretism but If I could actually lean fully into her Dainichi Nyorai self (where she even had a treasured light halo like Buddha Saver in Extra), her main self would be YHWH level and she scales accordingly, in CCC she can close combat with Violet due to martial arts and Extella has her able to melee with stacked Heroic Spirits.Left out the start of the paragraph, its Tamamo again.
>>4839098Nero was based on being a female Gil in Extra though.It took sacrificing Ayaka and the Sakura meta writein to free Clae just to make Gil not a 3rd party antagonist, we actually got really lucky with how everything played out with Gil. He's usually not anywhere near this amicable. Nero is usually nicer to deal with even as an enemy. But you also seem to dislike Gil and expected him to sperg out at the feast and badmouth the women for some reason. Don't let chads and stacies threaten you fren. Also, Nero has always been "good at everything", that's what her kit does. She's just held back by headaches anymore because she was saved from all of her suffering at Shinji's hand. WhatIs has honestly made her so much nicer and sweeter than the usually over the top Nero who I'd understand people taking offence to.
>>4839109Nobu, Scathach, Medusa, Eresh are also versatile as hell.
>>4839113Nero is always nice and sweet.Unless you are really set on making this not being so in your future quest.
>>4839118Also, Medusa summoning Pegasus is just her magecraft that isn't even on her sheet, for example.
>>4839119Bit of column A, bit of column B.This quest's Nero is almost the antithesis of what might happen in mine by this point.>>4839120FREEMYNIGGERCHRYSAOR
>>4839109Texture anon, I think we're having some communication problems again. All of these people are powerful in their own way, yes. But none of them are powerful AND can cook better than anyone else AND can teach us Bajiquan AND can save people like only we used to be able to AND can be sent instead of us to solve the wife problems that should be cropping up at some point AND.. you get the idea. That's only Nero.>>4839113>He's usually not anywhere near this amicable>you also seem to dislike Gil and expected him to sperg out at the feast and badmouth the women for some reasonThose things are related.>>4839118Medusa's entire contribution to the grandpa fight was standing around and doing nothing. This only reinforced my worries about character overlap and overshadowing.
>>4839118Our Medusa is only good at being cute.>>4839121Yes, we talked about it prior. Cold Grail War.
>>4839121Who's this meant to be and why is there a barcode on her tit?
>>4839124With the Gil/Enkidu wobbo combo and ELIXIR down, Orochi was FUCKED. Everything else was seasoning. We came too prepared if you wanted everyone to get a go on the snake ride, ELIXIR was the only issue and it jobbed to light blue tinted words.
>>4839126>Our Medusa is only good at being cute.And people didn't even want to kiss her!
>>4839127It's the Mark of the Beast, vorechad.
>>4839124>Medusa's entire contribution to the grandpa fightWhatIs never disconformed that she was doing cheerleading for us during it.
>>4839130Why does it look like a barcode?
>>4839124>But none of them are powerful AND can cook better than anyone else AND can teach us Bajiquan AND can save people like only we used to be able to AND can be sent instead of us to solve the wife problems that should be cropping up at some point AND.. you get the idea. That's only Nero.Bruh. That's just your autism at this point. I just listed people who could do basically anything through multiple avenues.
>>4839128I expected him to be more powerful. He SHOULD have been more powerful. We didn't know his limits beforehand, and he could have easily buffed himself even further with all the prep time we gave him.>>4839131It never happened if he didn't write it.
>>4839134Barcodes have been called the Mark of the Beast since inception by based end of days schizos
>>4839129Not arbitrarily in front of Touko when Shishou was the one doing all actual work with the sisters
>>4839124I bet Alaya can.
>>4839136>It never happened if he didn't write it.One Saber Fairy (Hope) died after hearing this.
>>4839121Chrysaor is totally a Medusaface/Medusa being reborn as an Earth Mother Goddess after being Gorgon/the expelled Divine bits from Gorgon.
>>4839143I think it's a good name for our first son with Medusa, he even uses the same sword as his dad.
>>4839136>It never happened if he didn't write it.Still better deal than what Arc got.Anyways it’s not like anyone will be holding it against either, it’s better to be over prepared than the other way around and it’s willingness to put yourself in harms way for another that counts even if you didn’t need to in the end.
>>4839136He was powerful.We just dabbed on him after outskilling him.
>>4839135Explain texture anon. Explain how these people can do everything Nero can do and outright replace characters, including us, both in and out of combat. And explain why no one has proposed asking them to do absolutely everything like it has repeatedly happened with Nero recently.>>4839138You realize we're never kissing anyone in public ever if we keep thinking this way, right? One of the benefits of resolving the harem was supposed to be that we stop hiding!>>4839146I'm not holding it against Medusa, or Arcueid. I want to seem them do things! If anything, I'm holding it against WhatIs for bloating the cast so hard and making each new addition more powerful than the last.>>4839150Not powerful enough. All we needed was us, Vritra, Gil, Enkidu, Alcides and Ciel. Everyone else was superfluous. That's an order of magnitude less power than what we had available.
>>4839158>And explain why no one has proposed asking them to do absolutely everything like it has repeatedly happened with Nero recently.Because Nero requires less autism and effort to go through their stuff and look for what they can use to do this. That's it. People forgot about Tamamo's bunny suit in a record time too, and that was useful as hell. >Explain how these people can do everything Nero can do and outright replace characters, including usI already did. Read.
Ooooh.Just thought of a good one.Mashu and Gudako show up to the Awakening Mirror singularity and one of them ends up eating Alberich after Mashu kicks his teeth in.
>>4839162Sweets wrote Alberich dabs on FGO scene. So have Fou eat him or something. And do crossover with Extra that he hates so much. Time for Melt to melt him up.
>>4839160I'm tired of doing this again. Let's just agree to disagree for one more time. I'll start worrying about these other people taking over the role of others when it starts happening or I start seeing actual concrete proposals instead of vague theoryposting.
>>4839163Just Melt?If I do an Extra crossover I'm using the entire Sakura 5 + BB.Time for Alberich to get breast vored by Passionlip.Also I'll have Fou eat him too. Predators being smaller than prey is based.
>>4839165Wasn't Melt Sweets favourite?>PassionlipAh yes. Alberich's greatest fear.And give him canon BBad End too while at it.
>>4839165So...Melt drinks him.Lip breast vores him.Violet assimilates himProtea eats him in a single biteKazuradrop [REDACTED]s himBB just eats him for his power.
>>4839167>>4839168I'll also have Kiara unbirth him, fuck it.
>>4839173Do Altrouge or Nrvnqsr consuming him too.
>>4839158I think you’re overreacting way too much with Nero who literally just got one scene just because we were afraid she might be in danger.And I’m still worried about Paracelsus although not as much since our allies are now confirmed to understand we don’t want people petering out of existence. Gotta thank Lugh for taking the role of the Roman wolf.
>>4839173Could you please be more subtle with your trade? I really don’t want 4chan’s counter force to nuke this thread.
>>4839173>Erotic roleplay is not allowed
>>4839177>Roman wolfA prelude to him becoming girl.
>>4839176Sure.>>4839176 I'll have Lugh show up as an Agent of the Counterforce and stomp and eat both Alberich and Odin.
>>4839180Kiara unbirthing somebody is like the least out there thing I've suggested.It's what she does.
>>4839177I'm not worried about Nero because of what she's done, though I admit her effortlessly outcompeting everyone in the kitchen felt like a warning sign. I'm worried because of what some anons want her to do in the future.And anon, WE don't want people petering out? Why do you assume they have no will of their own or no self-preservation at all? Even without Lugh, the inferior Aozaki was right there. There was no way Nero would let herself die for literally no reason.>>4839186That doesn't mean it's ok.
>>4839184That quest really nerfed Odin didn't it? Based on what I'm hearing. I also heard enough that I'm not reading it to find out
>>4839188You're not missing anything. I regretted what little I read until vorefren came up with the perfect ending to Awakening.
>>4839187>effortlessly outcompeting everyone in the kitchen felt like a warning signYou want to see what Benienma would do with a kitchen?
>>4839188His characterization was way more offensive than his power level.
>>4839188It was set up in a way so Alberich had to be able to beat Odin in a one on one by the end. >>4839187Fine I deleted the post.still doing it though.
>>4839187I’d rather worry needlessly a bit before than to be sad afterwards.Anyway children will be greater attention hogs anyway, as in any family. Speaking of, I wonder what Tetsuka’s human form will be, the hat should help her with shape shifting right?
>>4839195Thank you Anon. You have a good heart.
>>4839192Wiki tells me cooking is her specialty, so I wouldn't mind at all. Just like I didn't mind Tamamo or Sakura being good at cooking. But Nero is better than them all, isn't she? Better in everything, actually.>>4839196Children SHOULD be greater attention hogs, but today has made me less hopeful in that regard. Or did you miss the anons wanting to skip actual interaction with them because they got enough screentime in the background?I don't see how the hat could help. But the wagie who picked up the clothes should be commended. If he was a human instead of a random NPC, that is.>>4839197The vorefren is an alright guy.
>>4839201>Better in everything, actually.Umu!
I find it funny that another fate quest has lived rent free long enough in your heads that it's getting revenge vorefics and will keep getting it at this rate. I'm seeing more posts about that quest than the updates of this quest.
The best part about Alberich and the Alter-Egos/BB is Alberich is a living mass of Imaginary Numbers.They'll all take one look at him and think.>"It's Free Real Estate."
>>4839201A kitsune may take on human form, an ability learned when it reaches a certain age – usually 100 years, although some tales say 50. As a common prerequisite for the transformation, the fox must place reeds, a leaf, or a skull over its head.Straw hat should count as reed, right?I hope we’re not going to have to wait 50 years though. I guess we’ll need to learn how to speak to animals otherwise.I suppose Alaya might have been at work here, unless our employees run a rumor mill about us having adopted the kids and a fox very recently.
>>4839208Oh, hi again Sweets. Did you read the vorefren's fanfics for your quest? They're really good. Ten times better than anything you'll ever hope to write. I really recommend the Good End, if you must start from one.
>>4839208And I'm not seeing Awakening Redux in catalog.
>>4839201>But Nero is better than them all, isn't she? Better in everything, actually.Well, probably? Tamamo is a question mark, because she explicitly learned under Benienma, probably in the underworld before passing on to the Throne (or in the Throne somehow? How it works is very ???) but she isn't as good as Beni. Sakura is very good, but she's still modern human level in that probably.It doesn't really matter though. Nero is never going to be better than the true specialists IN THEIR speciality, of course she'll be better than specialists in stuff not their speciality. She can copy Sphere Boundary, Li still dunked her because he has the battle sense on how to use it and how to counter it by being the one to make it.She can use mana burst, she still doesn't have a Dragon core and isn't a Phantasmal species, neither does she have specialist Bursts like (Light). She can learn different branches of magecrafts, she doesn't have Blavatsky's weird ass mutant circuits, or the decades or centuries or millennia of experience to know how to use these things and how to synergize different parts. She can't make herself Incubus-blooded, or give herself dragon-modification for example.Her big thing is that she is able to do anything she could say to justify for herself, not that she outperforms specialists in their speciality. She can't have 7 Grails worth of energy in her or acquire Chaos Tide (and I guess with Savering up Potnia Theron is either beyond her or some kind of different version), she isn't going to become a Buddha or Great Divinity, as her Venus supermode required gattaing with actual Venus from the Throne of Gods/wherever she is, not an innate ability. She isn't going to unga with the best as Monstrous Strength doesn't have a basis for her to IP up to. She doesn't get unique stuff like Wisdom of the Haunted Ground iirc.This is like how a lot of things are called "omnipotent" in nasu, but that doesn't mean "stronger than anything", but "can do anything." You're looking at her "speciality", and thinking that this includes beating specialists in their specialities, if I am seeing it right. If your problem is that she is an extreme generalist then I just ????Why is cooking even a metric here? It's literally a mundane skill. It would be a very shitty Skill if it couldn't do that, or give her Human Observation or Charisma or something.
>>4839213>As a common prerequisite for the transformation, the fox must place reeds, a leaf, or a skull over its head.Oh, nice catch. I didn't know that. Yes it should count. Straw hat is too specific to be anything else.
>>4839213Big brain is to have Morgan stop her mind and Time Mordred skips 50 years in a Bounded Field after making sure she's unaging and doesn't need food/water.Instant human form, no decades of boredom.
>>4839218>Have our daughter skip FIFTY YEARS of her childhood because of impatienceWhat THE FUCK is wrong with you?
We should get Alaya to drink from Nero's cup.
>>4839212>>4839214>Hi SweetsYou're wrong, But I shouldn't be surprised you'd accuse me of being a butthurt QM for not interested in beating a dead horse.Why don't you try cluttering the thread by criticizing his quest again? Maybe he'll show up.
>>4839216>Why is cooking even a metric here? It's literally a mundane skillBecause people are more than their combat stats, and because it's a sign of things to come. "Why not just have Nero do X?" is a question that will come up with literally everything. How do you answer it without that answer being "Yes, she should just do X" for absolutely everything? Including the mundane skills that you disregard so?
>>4839218I did think of this but >>4839222 is right, it wouldn’t be fair to deprive her of her own pace if development for our convenience. It’s not like we don’t intend to be there for her for however long she will have us.
>>4839227Did you enjoy the scat scenes Sweets?I wrote them with you in mind.
>>4839227Well, that's a new approach. At least you're not trying to justify your retarded opinions about the OG characters and the retarded direction your quest took this time. You really got btfo'd last time we talked, didn't you?
>>4839232I think he might be fapping to the stories I'm posting and is trying to make me post more.Why else would Melt be one of his waifus?He's a vorefag just like me.
>>4839222??? Bro you okay. You don't want them to live a childhood that can communicate, as they can live eternally anyway?Their mentality wouldnt change anyway so?
>>4839228I literally don't understand your problem.
>>4839236We know he's a pedo, I wouldn't put it past that sick fuck to be a vorefag too. In any case, you should write more.>>4839237This post was not written by a human being.Anon, in 9 months little Shirou and his four brothers and sisters will be born. Newborns are annoying though, and they can't communicate either. Should we have Morgan skip the first few years of their life too?>>4839239I literally don't understand what you don't understand.
>>4839244>Anon, in 9 months little Shirou and his four brothers and sisters will be born. Newborns are annoying though, and they can't communicate either. Should we have Morgan skip the first few years of their life too?So you think development of a kitsune's magical attribute=the development of mentality, when I said the mentality wouldnt change?
>>4839245Also, I still think naming children after our friends is weird as hell.
>>4839245I'm sorry, but I don't understand your alien language. I have no idea how to respond to that.
>>4839247>I literally don't understand what you don't understand.
>>4839244Alberich got stronger by absorbing defeated foes.He absorbed his brother entirely too.It was the Fate vorequest.
>>4839246Does it? I guess it depends how close are the friends.What does Japanese naming conventions even look like?We could always name the kids after our favourite VN protagonists
>>4839251The scene with Oryou is actually an alternative take on the scene after Alberich vored his brother actually. >"Alberich, you absorbed him entirely!" etc. etc
>>4839257>Shirou>士 - Shi - samurai>郎 - Rou - sonThey usually use kanji to create the sound that make up the name, and each kanji also has a meaning or more. I've been doing some kanji autism on the side, I will have suggestions when the time comes.I don't think there's anything wrong with naming a child after a close friend either.
>>4839257>spoilerThat's either gonna result in some weird ass names or:>Oh you named him after Shirou, you're such close friends.>Oh, uh, yeah, that Shirou, right, absolutely.
We should have a kid with Touko and suggest naming them Cornelius or Cornelia.I want to see her reaction.
And another relevant example. I didn't discover this, I'm just copypasting another's work. I think it was the nigger but I'm not sure.>天星- Tetsuka -. 天 means "heaven". 星 means "star"
>>4839261That shirou is even more based than our shirou.
>175 new postsNice.Gimme a second to read through.If somebody could tally while I did, it would be nice.
Damn I hate Greeks
>>4839263inb4 she's saving her blank cheque to have us give her a child.>Touko approaches in deliberate gait, her expression one of resolve, even as her brown eyes give this uncanny radiance you tend to feel rather than see.>There's something different about her. You get a closer look at your teacher as she comes to stand before you. She's every bit as beautiful as ever, but for the first time you notice minor markings, shadows of lines on her forehead from when she focuses intently on her work, or in the corner of her eyes from when she smiles.>You refuse to call them blemishes because in your eyes they reflect the richness of experience she has accumulated, and in part conferred later to you. They make Touko look more profound. More real. Closer to the Truth>It hits you. This is not one of her puppets. This is your teacher in the flesh.>"Wakame-kun, I'm ready to collect."
>>4839273gochu senpai>>4838147>Flirt with Pollux to try to annoy Castor again.>Go check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.>>4838152>>4838155>Go check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.>>4838203>Call Medusa back in to the entryway>introduce monke to Argo + crew while waiting for her>as Medusa arrives mention that Pollux's looks are second to only one in the room, as you then introduce Medusa>mention Medusa actually looks even cuter with glasses, however she's kindly lent them out for the evening>Promote Medusa as not a monster if anyone seethes, mention how she too was wronged by Poseidon to Caenis, and mention what a pathetic cuck he is, and him meeting his match to a female explorer in the Age of Exploration>mention to Castor because he loves Gods so much, he gets to babysit Medusa's sisters this evening, two Truly Incarnated Goddesses>Usher the group towards the dining room, having Medusa show them the way as you head off to check on Karna and Vritra, see if they're ready for the feast.>>4838239>Have a friendly chat with Pollux about martial arts and dedication to studying them, shill Bajiquan and Killing Arts are their advantages and tell her that you have quite a lot of people around who are also into it>Involve Miyako in talks too>Go introduce Pollux to Karna and Vritra while also checking on their current situation with Shuten>Don`t pay much attention to Castor like he is some background character but avoid being directly rude as courtesy of a proper host>>4838526>>4838696>>4838713>>4838737
>>4838147this wins >>4838526
>>4839180>>4839182>>4839187What was the deleted post?
>>4839281Don't worry, you will not miss anything unless you choose to.
>>4839283What does this mean?
>>4839281It was just mentioning something the vore anon wants to write that it might have been a bad idea to mention.I could send a pic over twitter if you want to see.
>>4839284It was advertisement of future work by the resident fan artist.
I looked in the archive to see the deleted posts.
Also, here's the worst possible insult you can use against Sweets if you care to.Are you ready?>Picrelated
>>4839216>She can't have 7 Grails worth of energy in herWasn't the Seven Grails thing only for her Femme Fatale form?As in, her weakest form that is holding herself back the most?One would assume that Titan Tiamat and Dragon Tiamat would have even more magical energy available.
>>4839291>Wasn't the Seven Grails thing only for her Femme Fatale form?I think it was the reading they got when their computers were trying to find her, so it could conceivably be much more, I guess. It's just not stated anywhere.Her volume is "infinite", though, as the Chaos Tide that is her actual self is a 4d construct of infinite depth or something.
>>4839290You should check his Manticore story if only for this part >>4838974
So wait, for the winning vote what are you doing about the rest of the Argonauts?Taking them to see Karna and Vrita or just leaving them at the lobby?Also, I didn't mention it earlier but Taigalaya already arrived while you were watching Moomins.
>>4839079>???As I promisedhttp://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/4038156/It starts at>>4048731>Rolled 997 (1d1000)Results in Hecate getting summoned. Reconciliation attempt for her and Circe ends up with an emotional gut punch to Circe`s pride. Keep in mind that it happened after ryona scene.>>4839307Caenis should be introduced to Shuten? It was a plan to have them enter drinking competition.No preference for Jason and Asclepius. But having Vritra spook Jason would be fun.
>>4839307Heres my vote on that:>Show the rest of the Argonauts + Miyako & Wukong to the dining room>Check to see if other guests have arrived (aka check for Taigalaya but you wouldn’t know she is here until you find her)
>>4839312>Results in Hecate getting summoned. Reconciliation attempt for her and Circe ends up with an emotional gut punch to Circe`s pride. Keep in mind that it happened after ryona scene.I'm still mad about that.I'm still so god damn mad about that.
>>4839307>Also, I didn't mention it earlier but Taigalaya already arrived while you were watching Moomins.Sweet.>Taking them to see Karna and Vrita or just leaving them at the lobby?Take them with. If Shuten is there we can introduce her to Caenis.
So...Take the rest of the Argonauts to the dining room, but have Caenis come with you to meet Shuten?How does that sound?
>>4839324Castor will just follow behind and seethe because we are having nice conversation with his sister on our shared hobby?
>>4839324Sure>>4839325fine by me
>>4839324Sounds good to me
>>4839307Damn, we wanted to speak with her before she sat with the Emiyas. Oh well.>>4839312Why did you guys keep reading this shit? Every single thing I've read has only made me uncomfortable. And what's up with lovecraft's cat in the basement?>>4839324Yeah, sure.
>>4839330That's Alberich's Bakeneko or Nekomata or whatever it was.For some reason it had too many legs and too many eyes in order to make guessing what it was literally fucking impossible.
>>4839330It retroactively became good comedy.Don`t you enjoy it yourself, Dark Sakurautist?>And what's up with lovecraft's cat in the basement?It is really fucked up nekomata with three eyes and eight legs.
>>4839330Also, did you started Overgrowth as that meme suggested?
>>4839332I should have known there would be no proper answer.>>4839334I greatly enjoyed what vorefren did with that setup, but the setup itself is trash.>>4839336I plan to, but I haven't had the time yet.
I read a bit further after Circe storms out, and god-fucking-dammit, Sweets's retardedness knows no bounds>As for using a boat, they wouldn't use one for the same reason you wouldn't put a steel beam through a magic circle. A bridge is a construct that would impede the function of the water, while a boat only crosses the surface.That's a direct quote from Sweets after some anon questioned the wisdom of crossing some sort of killy water on a boat instead of building a bridge. How the fuck does he think bridges work? What sort of world is he living in?
>>4839349THE ULTIMATE SERVANT DESTROYING KILLY WATER?I KNEEL.WATER > ODIN CONFIRMED
>>4839363The killy water that must apparently be crossed by boat lest its delicate enchantments be disturbed by hanging a bridge over it. Seriously, what the fuck?
>>4839349>What sort of world is he living in?This one >>4839290And despite taking multiple good stabs at Sweets and Alberich, I still think City Akeldama part was decent enough. Even if it is hard to believe with selected pieces will pull from later threads. Or maybe it was true fate of Yumigawa to become sociopath pedophile since he was going to be CEO or something like that.
>>4839367The Killy Water that is so dangerous it will immediately kill a Servant or an Einzbern Homunculus upon touching it for even a moment, you mean?That would only ever be needed to be crossed by an Einzbern Homunculus and her Servant?That Sweets confirmed was powerful enough to defeat Odin?
>>4839370Let's not forget Assassin and his powers of reality warping while remaining completely undetectable.and how players wanted to take a Caster with them specifically to prevent bullshit like Assassin showing up and ruining everything and were just totally ignored because a Caster would've ruined the scenes Sweets wanted to write?
>>4839368I just think you guys didn't recognize the flaws. It's the most reasonable explanation.>>4839370More and more hilarious. Why didn't you scoop a bucket of this water to kill Odin like the evil witch of oz?
>>4839374The Killy Water was just the dumbest shit, because it's so powerful that the Einzbern could've just set the grail up to summon seven Servants DIRECTLY into the killy succ water to send the Servants all directly to the Greater Grail and just make their wish that way or something.Why did the Einzbern create a new Greater Grail 40 years before F/SN?How did the Einzbern create a new Greater Grail 40 years before F/SN?
>>4839378Why did the Einzbern summon a Pseudo Servant Odin that they would have had absolutely no way of controlling?
>>4839379This one's reasonable at least. Don't tell Sweets, but Acht is retarded and every effort he's made to cheat has only made things worse for him.
>>4839374I also can't remember, is summoning Hecate before or after Circe gets mindraped into obedience and loyalty by the Einzbern Loli through dozens of Command Spells?And then still finds a way to betray them.
>>4839379Why did the Einzbern summon an Angra Mainyu: All Evils of the World that would pollute their Holy Grail and make any wish ungrantable without causing extreme loss of life?
>>4839383Because the Einzbern didn't give a shit about human life, and if they summoned the ACTUAL Angra Mainyu as a divine spirit like they wanted to instead of the human sacrifice that was created to become a wish designated Angra Mainyu, they would've swept the war.
>>4839382That wasn't in the part I read, but Circe was the Servant of the einzbern loli, and she was really submissive. Probably after?
>>4839374Perhaps. Either that or popularity got to his head around start of Awakening and he decide to make it to Atalanta`s hit list.True Occam`s razor approach.>>4839379This one is easy. They are Einzberns.
>>4839387After then.It was some genuinely horrible NTR miseryporn.>Mindraped into obedience by girl who then goes on to have sex with the man that you love who now hates you because of her.
>>4839382After I think.>>4839389Can`t believe namefield took those special symbols.
>>4839392Definitely after, I started reading on the morning after the pedophile fucked the loli.>>4839395Welcome to namefaggotry, symbols-anon!
>>4839400>symbols-anon! Akkadian Tiamat anon
>>4839374>Why didn't you scoop a bucket of this water to kill Odin like the evil witch of oz?Last we saw him he holed up in the place and told us to fuck off if we werent there to fight, had it continued I feel Al would've ended up giving Odin a sponge bath.>>4839392>>Mindraped into obedience by girl who then goes on to have sex with the man that you love who now hates you because of her. I swear when I first read it I felt his prose implies she was literally forced to watch from the corner of the room in spirit form but I could just be remembering things
>>4839395>openttd as second lookup resultRespect
>>4839392I think the last time Sweets mentioned her it was about her just flying into the sunset and saying she is sorry for everything.Genuine wrote her spirit being completely shattered. So much for being his waifu.
>>4839416I think he was just into that sort of stuff.Pseudo-NTR arc, remember?
I'm looking through some of Sweets' old posts, and I found "Sweets, what Servants would our allies summon based on compatibility?"Is this supposed to be a joke?Yōjinshi-no-Kōrakuhime is a murderous human hating oni whos literal first appearance was her having eaten a family with like four kids.What the fuck?
>>4839420Would explain all the Acht simping completely.Kind of funny how we could have summoned Circe instead of Morgan. By now her personal arc would probably be solved by us.
Hey, Sakurautist, look at this.This is the answer to the question "how would each of our waifus deal with motherhood?"
>>4839435>>4839443I am half-certain Sweets is a homunculus with little understanding of real humans. Remember how he said "Sakura's upbringing means she doesn't care about her family all that much?"
>>4839443I seriously believe something happened to Sweets that caused him to hate Circe some time after starting Akeldama.
>>4839445Oh, there's also this.
>>4839435I always read his sister as LARPing nerd who was bullied through life with gateway to misanthropy being new oni nature. Pitiful creature.And wasn`t her introduction scene copied from Silence of the Lambs?
>>4839447That doesn't surprise me. You already posted the pedophile's attraction ratings, and I am still certain Sweets railroaded the players into killing the Emiya just so he'd have an excuse to take the poor orphan in.
>>4839449>I always read his sister as LARPing nerd who was bullied through life with gateway to misanthropy being new oni nature. Pitiful creature.And then when Circe rightfully depowered it, it started a fucking OnlyFans account to survive LMAO.>And wasn`t her introduction scene copied from Silence of the Lambs?It was really edgy and a completely retarded way to introduce yourself to somebody you want as an ally, yes.
>>4839450>pedophile's attraction ratings>C-Tier: Rider of FuyukiTo this very day.>>4839451Perhaps the only truly good person among Judas brothers was that one wagie who never came to be.
>>4839457>that one wagie who never came to be.From what little we know of him I'd find it ironic if had he lived he would've ended up batting for girls half his apparent age just like his brother, the difference is he'd be aiming for highschool and not elementary.
"Everyone, follow me to the Dining Hall, if you would." You instruct the Argonauts, Wukong and Miyako to follow you as you begin to head towards the heavily populated room, you swiftly begin to walk as everyone else follows you. You turn your head back to look at the group following you, focusing on Pollux. "Pollux, I hear that you're interested in martial arts and hand to hand combat, would you care to discuss such activities while we walk? I'm a practitioner of two eastern styles of Martial Arts myself, when I'm not studying magecraft. I'm hailed as a prodigy, in fact. Miyako will tell you all about that, I'm sure.""That's right! He's the mysterious championship fighter who always enters into martial arts tournaments under fake names, and defeats all of his opponents without breaking a sweat! Personally, I think he's the greatest living practitioner of Bajiquan!" Miyako chirps in, happy to be invited to talk about her favorite thing, and you smile before giving a self-deprecating laugh."Oh, Miyako, I'm a good Martial Artist, but I don't know if I could call myself the best. I simply don't have the time to focus on studying them to be considered a true master." You purposely downplay your own skill, you're one of the best practitioners on the planet when it comes to Bajiquan, but you aren't a true master who has perfected the form like somebody on the level of Li Shuwen. The same holds true for your skill in the Snake Style form of killing arts. You're a strong nonpracticing, but you aren't on Kuzuki's level in skill alone. Though if it came to a fight, so long as you had the superior physical abilities through reinforcement, you would easily be able to defeat Kuzuki even with your lower level of skill. Attempting to use Snake Style on somebody who has actively studied the technique is like trying to bluff somebody who can hear your heart beating."Bajiquan? Was it? Why don't you tell me about this form of martial arts? I'm more focused on boxing, as well as pankration... In fact, I'd even go so far as to say I surpass Herac... Sorry, Alcides himself when it comes to the boxing aspect of pankration! Though when it comes to wrestling, he still has the advantage against me." So she's a specialist, is she? You suppose that makes sense. You knew that she was highly skilled in hand-to-hand combat, and her specializing in boxing makes more sense than her just being a greater combatant all around than the man who actually devised pankration. Not that it isn't tremendously impressive that she'd managed to surpass the original creator of the style in an aspect of it.
"Well, Bajiquan is only one of the forms I practice. It's focused on immense bursts of power at short range in order to break your opponent's guard to strike at vulnerable points of the body in order to secure a quick victory before allowing an opponent to wear you down. It's a form of martial arts that works quite wonderfully at facing off against physically more imposing enemies who could outlast you in a brawl. At a higher level of skill, I hear it's even possible to ensure that every strike made is lethal and that you can perfectly conceal your presence from the world." You give Pollux a brief rundown of Bajiquan, and she has a thoughtful expression on her face as she seems to take what you told her into consideration. Miyako looks pretty awe-struck by your description of the higher levels of Bajiquan though. "The other form I practice is something I wouldn't ever use seriously in a tournament unless for some reason I decided I needed to kill my opponent. It's a Killing Art taught to me by a man raised to be an assassin, focusing on strikes so fluid and unpredictable that even the ability to predict the future would do little to defend you against a true master. Each attack is made to perform the maximum amount of lethal damage, striking the vitals in order to secure a quick kill." Miyako looks a little surprised by your explanation of the other form of martial arts that you practice, that it is designed for killing, while Pollux just seems more interested by the idea of it than anything else."Oh? It sounds to me like those two styles would work quite well together if used simultaneously with one another, is there a reason you don't...? Other than not wishing to kill your opponents, a truly lethal strike that couldn't be predicted sounds like the sort of attack that a man could spend his entire life trying to perfect!" Pollux seems to be having fun as you discuss martial arts with her, and you can see Castor scowling just behind her."Well of course it would work together, but I've yet to truly learn to synergize the forms. If I managed to create my own form by combining Bajiquan and the Snake Style of Killing Arts, I'd likely rank as one of the greatest martial artists of all time! But... well, first if I want to construct my own school synergizing the two styles, I need to master them both." You would like to be able to combine your martial arts, but actually doing so will be no easy feat. Perhaps if you spent a few years focusing on your martial skills, it might be possible, or if you could find a true Master to teach you in Bajiquan alongside Kuzuki teaching you his own martial arts, you could potentially manage it in maybe one. Maybe.
"Interesting, I'm actually quite interested in sparring with you now, after you've told me that..." The girl then opens her eyes wider as she realizes something. "But don't worry! I'll hold back my strength as a Servant and fight you on your own level if we do end up sparring! I just want to find out how good these arts of yours are, that's all." The girl smiles at you, and you can see the seething Castor gritting his teeth now. What's the matter? Angry that your sister is talking with somebody in a friendly manner? Resisting the urge to call Castor a seething autist, you smile slightly at Pollux again."I'd like that too, being able to test my skills against great heroes of the past is something I'm grateful for, and even if you'll probably overwhelm me, losing a fight can teach you more than winning one... so long as you survive, that is." Facing a superior opponent in physical combat and surviving against them would naturally allow you to pick up on the flaws in your own style, allowing you to improve your abilities far more than just beating down weaker enemies with ease would allow for. You cold probably train against somebody less skilled than you for dozens and dozens of hours, and still not improve as much as you could with just ten minutes of the wisdom of somebody with a greater level of skill."Well said." Pollux smiles brightly at you, happy to have met somebody with a fondness for hand-to-hand combat like herself, even if your styles of combat really couldn't be more different, it's only natural for somebody to respect a fellow practitioner of a form similar to their own, so long as they are suitably skilled in that form. You arrive at the Dining Hall, opening the doors and observing the 4 dozen or so people present in the room. "Alright, everyone, there's a name tag for everyone, so if you'd all just like to go and take a seat... except you Pollux... and you as well, Caenis." You notice that Vritra, Karna and Shuten are still absent from the hall, Taiga had seemingly managed to arrive without you even noticing, somehow not tripping the bounded fields with her presence at all. Interesting... She looks to be acting just like the normal lively Taiga right now, and is in the process of happily hugging Kiritsugu and Illya. How nice, it looks like Alaya has decided to allow her host control of her body, at least for the moment. They really are trying to get in your good books, aren't they?"What do you mean, except Pollux?" Castor raises a complaint, and you just frown at him.
"Please take a seat, Castor. I'm just taking Pollux to go and see one of my other allies who is tremendously skilled with Martial Arts, I assure you, I'm an older brother as well, I can understand just how much your sister means to you." You try to make some common ground with Castor, you don't know how pleased he'd be if he found out just how deep your relationship with your younger adoptive sister had become, but you genuinely don't care what the seething autist thinks, really. You really have to hold yourself back from bullying him. "And as for you, Caenis, I want to introduce you to your drinking buddy. I can only imagine that she's trying her hardest to drink all the alcohol that I brought right now, and is only being held back by their efforts." Seriously, you feel bad for informing Shuten that there really was more alcohol present."Hmmph, fine. But if I find that you've touched even a single hair on my sister's head, I'll..." "Brother." Pollux gives her elder sibling a lovely smile. "I'll be fine, alright? Just go and try to enjoy yourself in my absence, I'm sure it won't take long." She immediately defuses the boy, who just huffs as he spins on his heel and walks into the dining hall along with the other Argonauts who had already started to take their seats. "Thank you Pollux." You thank the girl as you start to walk once again, the alcohol should be outside in your garden somewhere, so you begin to head out to the back of your house. Walking for a few minutes before reaching the doors leading to your expensive gardens. What you see when you open the door is... not really something you expected, to say the least."No! Get off of me! Why are you so heavy? Why can't I move you!" Shuten is lying flat on the floor, and a bored looking woman is just sitting atop of her, waiting for something to happen. You have no idea how things might've ended up this way, and then you realize the cause may well have been the concept of Sanctuary that you applied to your Bounded Fields. It seems that you've found out just what the effect of it is. Within the area of the Conceptual Bounded Field, all violent actions taken against another are reduced in potency by a factor of... well, if you had to guess, you'd imagine that it would be great enough to prevent even a powerful attack from a Servant hurting a human all that badly under the effects of the Bounded Field. Meaning that Shuten is literally unable to force Vritra off of her. Looks like once again, Vritra is enjoying her nature as an obstacle. Shame that your bounded fields wouldn't do much good against somebody with the skill to rewrite them though. Even after having a concept applied to them, they could still simply be deactivated."Oh, my rider! We successfully managed to prevent the thief from stealing the alcohol!" You look to see three whole shipping containers stacked atop one another, completely untouched.
>>4839540Can we please do what Sakura did to BB and smash Castor through a wall? I fucking hate this guy more with every new line he gets
"Well, she did most of the work, actually." Karna hops down from the strange tower of containers that appears to have been constructed. "Still, I won't argue with the results, Vritra." He looks almost amused by the sight of the oni squirming powerlessly to shift the weight of the woman."Husband, would you mind telling this dragon to get off of me, please?" The oni tries to project confidence, but you can tell that she's been overwhelmed by Vritra, and is struggling to maintain her usual smug attitude. Of course, maintaining smugness when you're being used as a seat by somebody is practically impossible anyway, so it's not like it's a surprise.>"Vritra, please do so, the feast is about to start.">"Vritra, keep sitting on Shuten while I introduce Pollux and Karna... Caenis, that's your drinking buddy there.">"Can't you overcome that obstacle with your own power, Shuten? Come on, you're stronger than this, aren't you?">Just ignore her entirely and introduce Pollux to Karna.>You aren't going to let this opportunity pass you by, kneel down and tease Shuten by playing with her horns and headpatting her.>Write-in...
>>4839542Please understand, he just has autism.
>>4839546>>You aren't going to let this opportunity pass you by, kneel down and tease Shuten by playing with her horns and headpatting her.>>Introduce Pollux and Caenis to everyone Pretty sure Vritra and Shuten would both like this
>>4839546>tease ShutenI halfway expect this to lose us some fingers until they regen.
>>4839542see this is why i wanted to fucking antagonize him, Alcides was right, all the Gods are shitters>>4839443List for how our waifus would handle motherhood wen
>>4839555Castor isn't even a god.He has no divinity, and that causes him to seethe hard.
>>4839555>all the Gods are shittersRIP Eresh, Ilya, Pollux, Tamamo, Tiamat, Herc, (maybe Alaya), I still dont get why Medea isnt a goddess if Circe gets called one in her mats
>>4839555>List for how our waifus would handle motherhood wenYou don't need spoilers for something that you're actually going to have happen, do you?
>>4839563>"Man, FUCK Heracles."t. Heracles.
>>4839563Circe is a legit God, Medusa basically had it taken away after she became a monster. Also I forgot they were Gods, perhaps not all Gods are shitters >>4839565based
>>4839568>Medusa basically had it taken away after she became a monster.True, but I said Medea who should have the same amount of divine ancestry.
>>4839546You aren't going to let this opportunity pass you by, kneel down and tease Shuten by playing with her horns and headpatting her
>>4839546>"Vritra, keep sitting on Shuten while I introduce Pollux and Karna... Caenis, that's your drinking buddy there.">Just ignore her entirely and introduce Pollux to Karna.Also make Shuten apologize before we let her up.