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Royal Rumble is a small draw quest about the management of a fantasy kingdom. This quest prioritizes the personal drama, and actions, of prominent characters in the world. If you should ever die, or become incapacitated, the quest will continue as the character who is next in line to your throne. Time moves in blocks of days, weeks, months, or even years. You can find yourself playing as the grown up spoiled child of the previous MC, running your fathers kingdom into the ground. The quest is to be updated semi-daily; this can be more or less frequent depending on the player activity and Qm’s schedule.

Eighty years ago, the kingdom of Ynedrred was at the height of its power. A land rich with good fields to seed and harvest, and precious metals that protruded out of the ground in vast veins. The people of the land grew wealthy as the kingdom's political reach extended well beyond its borders. At the heart of this kingdom, was the Blue Mountain. Settled underneath the mountain's shadow, was the capital city of Revin who drank deep the wealth that flowed from her. Gems of all colours flowed from the mountain like endless glistering rivers. So high the kings sat, that they could never see the fall before them.

Eighty years ago, came wrath, came ruin, came fire, and it bore itself upon great black wings. The devastation of Sserilyin the black was vast and terrible. Whole armies disappeared beneath his incinerating flame, the earth shook and split beneath his thundering steps, and the land knew only night beneath his mighty wingspan. When he was done, the line of kings was broken and the land splintered. The wealth of the blue mountain and the kingdom of Ynedrred stopped flowing, seemingly never to return. Only then, did the great dragon rest in the creator that once was a majestic city. He has not been seen since, not that there are many brave enough to explore the old ruins.

Recently, you have been touring the surrounding baronies. You hope to build stronger political ties with your neighbours and possibly find a wife to marry so you can sire some offspring. Last thread you were left to decide if Araksji’s proposal is to your liking before entering Irlean.
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Garlend: “I don’t suppose your requests leave much room for interpretation. Will you permit me a brief recess?”

She releases your hands and you are free from her grasp in more ways than one.

Araksji: “Of course Baron”

You retreat back to your lines to have a conversation with your advisor Nyeuu. You can’t help but notice a stiffness in your muscles, and a light cramping sensation in your stomach. It's almost like you have contracted a small cold in the short time you spoke with the baroness. Is it nervousness? Possibly. Nyeuu seem to catch on to it quite quickly.

Nyeuu : “Are you alright?”

Garlend: “I’m fine, I think. What are your observations? What do you think of the baroness?”

Nyeuu : “I was going to ask you the same thing, the way you are acting it's like you have been smitten!”

You look down at your hands, your vision is slightly blurry.

Garlend: “Was I? Nyeuu I think she may have cast a spell on me. I'm not sure im completely myself right now.”

Nyeuu : “A spell? Are you sure? I'm not a magician by any means but I have seen magic performed before. Its not a very subtle art. Do you want to cancel this foray into Irlean? Don’t put yourself in danger if you suspect that you are being assaulted by witchcraft.”

Garlend: “What about her caveats? How do you feel about that?”


Nyeuu doesnt need to tell you that he feels uneasy, you can see it on his face. it's clear that he has taken your accusation of spellcraft seriously. It doesn't seem like he wants to switch topics just yet, but answers you all the same.

Nyeuu : “I don’t think you will be in physical danger, everyone knows you are here. If something happens to you Irlean will face quick reprisal from more than just Reichland. My fear is that she plans to isolate you so she can manipulate you. If you suspect magic, then maybe that's how she plans to do it. Garland please take a moment to consider if attempting to find peace here is worth the risk.”

It's a hard situation, magic is not something you have any experience in whatsoever. You have never even seen it practised. Yet you promised Uther that you would see this to its end. If you come out the other side of this as a frog, then you can only hope swift justice will be brought down on Irlean.

Garlend: “No, I will not be scared off. I will not come this far only to turn back now at the precipice. I have faith in my friends that should anything happen to me, you will all carry on honourably. That being said, is there anything you can do for me? Perhaps another prayer?”

Nyeuu : “That I can do.”

Nyeuu takes your hands in his and performs a small hymn that will supposedly guard you against enchantments and curses.
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Garlend: “Aren't you forgetting something?”

Nyeuu smiles and rolls his eyes at you

Nyeuu : “They never forget about that part. Come here big guy.”

You lean down to assist Nyeuu with his vertical deficiency so he concludes the ritual by placing his lips on your forehead.

Nyeuu : “That one is from the gods...”

He then kisses you on the cheek.

Nyeuu : “and this one is from me. So you remember your friends while you're in there. Make sure to come back home to us in one piece this time.”

It's at this moment that you realize how insane it was to ever think you could enter Irlean without Nyeuu.
Once again you find yourself standing before Araksji.

Garlend: “My lady I must ask you to reconsider your position, I plead that you allow my friend and advisor Nyeuu to accompany me on this mission of peace.”

You reach out behind you, find Nyeuu, and pull him to stand beside you.

Garlend: “Just as you ask me to trust that I will be safe in your hands, I ask you to trust me to keep Nyeuu out of trouble.”

Araksji seems, for a lack of a better word, disappointed. Although you are not exactly sure what reaction her face and body language are making.

Araksji: “Garlend… It is not much, that I ask of you.”

You put your hands out and offer them to Araksji, much like she had done for you. This seems to be the right play because she quickly becomes more amicable. Araksji places her soft hands in yours and slides her fingers up your wrists and takes hold of your forearms as you take hold of hers. It feels good to touch her, you feel an immediate relief to the tense feeling in your muscles and stomach.

Garlend: “You would not deny an old man his walking stick nor a bookkeeper his ledger, so you should not deny me my advisor. I am embarrassed to say that Nyeuu is in some ways a necessity to me when it comes to political matters. Surely you will allow me this one thing.”

Araksji: “Perhaps, there is something that can be done...”

Well, you got Araksji to let Nyeuu in. The only downside is that you had to replace on of your two knight escorts with Nyeuu. The Cleric also had to agree to being blindfolded for the entirety of the trip, and a silk blindfold was placed over his eyes. Nyeuu does his best to remain dignified, but he needs constant supervision not to trip over a root or hit his head on a branch.
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Irlean is in many ways just as Iliandra described it, the town is married to the trees. The buildings, sometimes literally, bend over backwards to facilitate them. The structures are at times built obtuse and other times tall, just so they can fit around the many oaks. Ivy drapes the walls of the architecture, and flowers bloom in the streets. Irlean seems like a place out of a fairy tale. The only thing missing from Iliandras description is the lack of flutes and instruments. In fact, other than the loud groans of the trees, it's deadly quiet as your carriage is escorted through the city streets. Every time you poke your head out of the carriage, the plantation seems to have something to say.

Lilith: “They know who you are Sword Baron, and they know what you have done.”

Lilith sits across from you, and is to act as your personal escort. Nyeuu is to your left, but he keeps his opinions to himself for now.


Garlend: “It was never my intention to offend a tree”


She scoffs at you, the distaste is impossible to miss.

Lilith: “The forest knows you by a different name. “Uprooter” and “defiler” are some of my favourites.”

Garlend: “You must forgive me Lilith, but I am starting to believe that you don’t like me.”

Lilith: “Whats there to like? Your act does not fool me. All you think about is conquest and revenge, just like the others. No respect for the land you stand on, and will do and say anything if you think it will bring you one step closer to the crown of Ynedrred.”

Without Araksji here to hold her leash, Lilith is on the attack. You are not sure how much insult you are willing to stand for however.

Garlend: “A hefty accusation, how would your mother feel if she knew you were tainting any chance for diplomacy like this? Perhaps you should keep your opinions to yourself.”

Lilith: “Oh? Are you going to tell on me? Hide behind my mothers skirt? Are my words so frightening to you?”

Nyeuu seems to really want to say something but again, chooses not to. He is already on thin ice just being here, so it looks like he is going to let you fight your own battle.
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Garlend: “All I ask is for a little civility, if you are going to make accusations then they best have grounds to stand on. Baseless childish insults reduce us both.”

Lilith: “Baseless?”

That really gets her mad, Lilith seems to really lack the subtlety of her sister and speaks her mind openly. Honestly, you are starting to miss her fairer sibling.

Lilith: “You ransacked an ancient forest all for the pursuit of foreign gold. Whats worse, you manipulated my sister and led her to believe you were dependable. Not soon after she was INJURED trying to help you, did Reichland attack the feywood with no warning! You made her look like a FOOL in front of mother. Do you even care that the repercussions of your greed now spill out onto Otwecc and Arvalony?”

Garlend: “I manipulated Your sister? I think you got some things confused”

Lilith: “I think I see things clearly enough. These talks won’t go anywhere, it's all a show. You waste all our time.”

>What do?
- No point in wasting any more words
- Try to convince Lilith of your good intent
- Ask Lilith about something (specify)
- Flip it around and try a compliment instead
- write in
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You could describe your first day in Irlean as turbulent. Your advisor is blindfolded and needs constant supervision not to walk into a wall, the locals seem to go out of their way to avoid you, and your chaperone could be, at best, described as down right hostile. Its even starting to seem as if even the plants don’t like you. You never thought you would be saying this, but you are starting to yearn for Araksji’s company. You don’t know if she has been trying to cast a spell on you or not, but at least she is hospitable. So far, hers is the only hand of friendship that has been extended. Unfortunately, her duties as baroness have kept her busy. Yet she has made it clear that the two of you will be meeting again tonight for dinner, and that is where you currently find yourself. In the dining hall with Nyeuu and Lilith, waiting for Araksji. You get a small feeling of dejavu, like you have been in this exact position before. The silver lining to all this is that Lilith seems to have finally run out of things to berate you over, and now just silently dislikes you.

Eventually Araksji does show up, and you stand so you can walk over and greet her. She is wearing an exquisite black silk dress that a tactician must have designed, as the many intertwining spiderweb patterns subtly reveal her skin with military precision. Suffice to say, the dress does much to accentuate her more hefty attributes. She gives you her hand and you inadvertently bring it up to your lips. You don’t know why you did that, it may have been too forward. Perhaps you are feeling anxious, or maybe the spell she weaves has already taken effect. Araksji returns your gesture with a curtsy bow and lets you hold her hand all the way back to the table. When you return to your seat your fingers and lips feel tingly. Uther’s words ring more and more true through your mind, you are going to really need to start running all your thoughts and actions through a filter before you say or do anything. At least you are yourself enough to realize something is off.
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For entertainment, Araksji has arranged for her youngest daughter Alyia to play her flute for you. The young woman is only a few years older than your brother and looks quite nervous. Yet when she gets to playing her flute she seems to relax. The sound is quite uplifting but oddly melancholic at the same time. It takes you back to your childhood for some reason, and you feel as though you have heard the sound before yet cannot quite place it. When she is done she takes her place at the table. You compliment the young woman on her playing and she smiles and bows before you, but ultimately says nothing. You find it odd that you have yet to see Iliandra, and it seems she will not be joining your small party for dinner. Araksji doesn't give you much time to muse on it however.

Araksji: “Tell me Baron, how long do you plan to stay with us?”

>what do?
- “Unfortunately I have a wedding to catch, I cannot stay long. I would appreciate it if you made time to talk about political matters with me as soon as possible.”
- “Your Barony is beautiful Araksji, I could see myself spending a short while longer here if you could fit me into your personal schedule with more frequency...”
- ”I plan to stay as long as it takes to make this peace work, I can only hope that you are willing to house me for that duration”
- write in (Talk to Araksji or her daughters about anything)
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You may vote on the decisions above and also make some decisions of your own, share ideas you have to your advisors, send them on missions, etc.

Decisions that get no votes, OR are tied, will be resolved by your advisors.
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Okay, real talk here. Would anyone be open of skipping the rest of this tour if that meant going for the third option?

How much time can afford to spend un specifoc varoniles before se canta get to the wedding in time?
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>>4848195
I can die happy

>>4848218
>Try to convince Lilith of your good intent
We were legitimately defending the mines, soldiers were dying to BOULDERS being hucked from inside the forest out into defensive encampments. There wouldn't have been a campaign if there wasn't a threat to an ally we had broke bread with and pledged to defend.

The framing of her argument that we were "chasing after foreign gold" really does show just how political the creatures of the feywood are. Not a single soldier would have set foot into the feywood if it had not been increasingly hostile. If a bear is leaving a mundane wood to hunt people you are charged to protect, would you not kill it? If anything, after having been dealt a nearly mortal blow by fey creatures, there is nobody more cautious about the approach. The only way to stop the death tolls on the defending forces was to create a wider berth.

Not to mention that the feywood creatures seem to normally only attack in forces that consist of small creatures like goblins and cavalry-like ones such as the spiders. The Treants sending boulders over the treeline into defensive encampments seemed to have been a unique occurence in Kingsland. This begs the question as to why that would have happened.

>"I have a Wedding to catch, but if you require more time, I'm sure the bride and groom could be understanding under these circumstances. I would prefer to make it, if at all possible, however."
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>>4848294
God, that was a mess. How much time can we spend in specific baronies (like the second option) before we run out if time for the wedding?
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>>4848323
you are going to have to cut time here or Torlumbia
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>>4848218
- Ask Lilith about something (Ask about her hobbies, things she does for fun around her, what's her take on her own people, ask about exactly what trouble we've caused in Otwecc and Arvalony and for her sister if she's so keen on bringing it up. If we know her grievances then we will be better able to make amends.)
- Flip it around and try a compliment instead
Kill em with kindness.

- ”I plan to stay as long as it takes to make this peace work, I can only hope that you are willing to house me for that duration”
Please god, let it not take long.
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>>4848203
>Cross your arms, look directly to her face: "I have come to Irelan to males things right and whether you believe or not is your own trouble. I cannot in good conscience deny that my actions have partly strayed from the tenets of my order, specially after seeing the harm they have done to Otwecc and Arvalony, but I won't leave this place until I see peace on the horizon. As the future baroness, it is your right to think whatever you want if me, but never doubt my conviction in this"

We have to make it clear we mean business. Then, we try to hit her soft spot.

>"On the topic of amending mostrales, I would like to speak with your sister. At the very least to apologize. I own her that much and I would be indebted to you ando Irlean if you could arrange it"

Reinforce that we really want to make things right, dammit.
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>>4848203
- Flip it around and try a compliment instead
You look a lot like your mother.
She won't know what to think.

>>4848214
- “Unfortunately I have a wedding to catch, I cannot stay long. I would appreciate it if you made time to talk about political matters with me as soon as possible.”
A promise is a promise and we still have the rest of the tour to go on.

- write in
Where is Iliandra?
Alyia, how long have you been playing the flute?
Would you permit your endearing daughter Alyia to meet my younger brother Oliver in Upper Reichland; to repay your kindness and hospitality?
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>>4848214
As for the mother. We should be as Garland as posisibke. Reduce the diplomatic bullshit.

I realky like >>4848299 but I would rather be even more definitive. Make clear what are here for:

>One of my best friends from childhood is marrying soon. It would break my heart not to attend, but I would gladly be absent if that mean an agreement between the two is reached"

>Tell her of the future war that Uther warned us about

Now for another Garland moment. First prepare the terrain.

>I am not well-versed in diplomacy, but I have got a doubt many of my peers share and might come up in the Meeting of the Barons and is of vital importancia for the future of Ynerred. I ask you to dont think of my question as an insult to your abilities.

If she says yes, drop the bomb

>The wood is growing and it seems you can only slow it down. Are you able to revert this tendency or will it one day swallow all Ynerred? What has changed between the past and now to justify that growth?
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>>4848203
>- Flip it around and try a compliment instead

And when she's throughly off balance

>- Try to convince Lilith of your good intent

It was never our intention to cause Iliandra harm, or make her look like a fool. And if I were so focused on revenge and conquering, why would I be here, in the heart of Feywoods, speaking of peace? Would it not have been simplier to sent Nyeuu to talk and have him be rejected on the onset? You presume much because you don't know me well, Lilith. I hope to fix that.

>>4848214
>- ”I plan to stay as long as it takes to make this peace work, I can only hope that you are willing to house me for that duration”

Mention the wedding we'd like to attend though.

>Ask Alyia about that song she played, it was quite beautiful.
>Ask them of their opinions on Shalott

My curiosity is insatiable.

>>4848218
Nyeuu, I'd love some advice when we get a moment alone.

Also, welcome back RRQM! It's good to see Royal Rumble is back!
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>>4848195
Nyeuu is truly the top waifu. Alas.

>>4848203
>- Try to convince Lilith of your good intent
Use >>4848450, especially asking after Iliandra

>>4848214
>One of my best friends from childhood is marrying soon. It would break my heart not to attend, but I would gladly be absent if that mean an agreement between the two is reached"
>- write in (Talk to Araksji or her daughters about anything)

>Alyia, how long have you been playing the flute?
>Where is Iliandra?

And finally:

>The wood is growing and it seems you can only slow it down. Are you able to revert this tendency or will it one day swallow all Ynerred? What has changed between the past and now to justify that growth?

So glad this quest is back. And what a glorious return it has been!
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>>4848218
Oh, and I second:
>Nyeuu, I'd love some advice when we get a moment alone.
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>>4848383
+1 on getting to know Lilith better. I hope her blunt honest will calm down the more suspicious anons in this quest.

>>4848450
+1 on talking with Iliandra, I really do hope she wasn't harmed too badly.

>>4848504
These 'Garlend' moments sound suspiciously like the Feywood hunt vibes. If so, suppress our worst tendencies. I don't want to crippled in mind as well as in body lads.
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>>4848203
+1 to >>4848695's approach to Lilith, but follow it up with the quote below.

>"On the topic of making amends, I would like to speak with Illiandra. At the very least to apologize. I own her that much and I would be indebted to you and to Irlean if you could arrange it"
>>4848695
+1 to >>4848695's approach to the dinner discussion.
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>>4848203
>- Ask Lilith about something (Alyia)
I don't want to flake on the wedding
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>>4848818
We can skip or shorten our stay in Torlumbia. This mission is too important to cut short.
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>>4848818
Same. But we should have though about that before spending more time with Arvalony.
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>>4848203
>Flip it around and try a compliment instead

Make it something earnest, not just about how she's hot or whatever. She cares a lot about her land and her people- that's something we relate to and respect.

>>4848214
>“Unfortunately I have a wedding to catch, I cannot stay long. I would appreciate it if you made time to talk about political matters with me as soon as possible.”

The longer we stay, the more this lady has an opportunity to magic us or something. Besides, this whole place is clearly out to get us
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I attempt to fuck any female character
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>>4849024
>Besides, this whole place is clearly out to get us

To be fair, we did do them dirty without warning. This is our attempt to fix that.
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>>4848203
>Try to convince Lilith of your good intent
How often does she travel out of her homeland? Don't think she realizes just how threatening the growing forest seems to other baronies.

>”I plan to stay as long as it takes to make this peace work, I can only hope that you are willing to house me for that duration”

sorry Helena
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>>4849088
I still hold out hope that we can make it.
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>>4848727
I mean, I just feel that Garland (and the players) work better when the cards are on the table and the problems are apparent. Even at the risk of being blunt, we need to make clear we can't help them oif they are cagey about their problems.


Ask Araksji:
>The giants' monuments are far and wide. Do you know if they did anything on a far away land which might serve to cure what aid the forest? Some library ancient library or elf that might know how to cleanse the stain from the Feywood?
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>>4850022
I agree with your assessment on Garlend (and the players).
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>only attack in forces that consist of small creatures like goblins and cavalry-like ones such as the spiders.
Goblins are NOT native to the feywood nor do they live there, they are their own breed of pest. How they probably ended up riding on top of spiders is explained by Nyeuu in the last thread.

>How often does she travel out of her homeland? Don't think she realizes just how threatening the growing forest seems to other baronies.
Often, much like her sister, she serves as an ambassador. From off screen conversation Garland would know that she is often in both Kingsland and Arvalony. While Iliandra is often in Otwecc, Torlumbia, and until recently, Upper Reichland.
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[Continuation of the conversation with Lilith]

Maybe if Nyeuu wasn’t seated to your left, you would have taken a different approach. But in your head, you hear the words he would probably like to say: “A little kindness goes a long way”. With that in mind, you decide not to validate Lilith. Instead you choose to power through her insults and bad attitude by remaining polite and attempting to reassure her of your good intent.

Garlend: “Lilith, I admire your dedication to your people and the Feywood. That is something I can relate to and respect. Perhaps that can be the starting point for us instead of this pointless back and forth. Despite what you think I truly have come here to make amends, the very fact that i'm personally here proves that.”

Lilith: “It proves nothing Irlean is simply on your way to Torlumbia, I know all about your trip. I don’t know what's going on in your head, or what grand theatrics you are trying to pull, but your presence here does little to reassure me of anything.”

Garlend: “If you can’t allow the possibility, even if it's a small one, that I am here with good intentions. Then this trip is indeed doomed to failure, but it won’t be because of anything that I have done.”

You bring your thumb and index finger close together to indicate just how little room you need her to give you.

Garlend: “If you can give me just this much trust, I promise I can make this work”

She leans back and rolls your tongue around her mouth before breaking eye contact and looking out the window.

Lilith: “We shall see.”
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[Continuation of the conversation with Lilith]

Maybe if Nyeuu wasn’t seated to your left, you would have taken a different approach. But in your head, you hear the words he would probably like to say: “A little kindness goes a long way”. With that in mind, you decide not to validate Lilith. Instead you choose to power through her insults and bad attitude by remaining polite and attempting to reassure her of your good intent.

Garlend: “Lilith, I admire your dedication to your people and the Feywood. That is something I can relate to and respect. Perhaps that can be the starting point for us instead of this pointless back and forth. Despite what you think I truly have come here to make amends, the very fact that i'm personally here proves that.”

Lilith: “It proves nothing Irlean is simply on your way to Torlumbia, I know all about your trip. I don’t know what's going on in your head, or what grand theatrics you are trying to pull, but your presence here does little to reassure me of anything.”

Garlend: “If you can’t allow the possibility, even if it's a small one, that I am here with good intentions. Then this trip is indeed doomed to failure, but it won’t be because of anything that I have done.”

You bring your thumb and index finger close together to indicate just how little room you need her to give you.

Garlend: “If you can give me just this much trust, I promise I can make this work”

She leans back and rolls her tongue around her mouth before breaking eye contact and looking out the window.

Lilith: “We shall see.”
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[Continuation of the conversation with Lilith]

Maybe if Nyeuu wasn’t seated to your left, you would have taken a different approach. But in your head, you hear the words he would probably like to say: “A little kindness goes a long way”. With that in mind, you decide not to validate Lilith. Instead you choose to power through her insults and bad attitude by remaining polite and attempting to reassure her of your good intent.

Garlend: “Lilith, I admire your dedication to your people and the Feywood. That is something I can relate to and respect. Perhaps that can be the starting point for us instead of this pointless back and forth. Despite what you think I truly have come here to make amends, the very fact that i'm personally here proves that.”

Lilith: “It proves nothing Irlean is simply on your way to Torlumbia, I know all about your trip. I don’t know what's going on in your head, or what grand theatrics you are trying to pull, but your presence here does little to reassure me of anything.”

Garlend: “If you can’t allow the possibility, even if it's a small one, that I am here with good intentions. Then this trip is indeed doomed to failure, but it won’t be because of anything that I have done.”

You bring your thumb and index finger close together to indicate just how little room you need her to give you.

Garlend: “If you can give me just this much trust, I promise I can make this work”

She leans back and rolls her tongue around her mouth before breaking eye contact and looking out the window.

Lilith: “We shall see.”
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You let that sit for a while, but you still have much you wish to ask Lilith before the carriage ride is over.

Garlend: “Tell me about your sister. Where is she? How is she? I never meant to hurt her or embarrass her. ”

Whatever ground you managed to get for yourself is gone instantly. Lilith doesn't like you bringing up her sister. In fact, she seems to hate you more for your relationship with her sister than your actions against Feywood.

Lilith: “My SISTER? What do YOU possibly have to say to her? Her well being is not your concern any longer.”

Garlend: “I'm trying to make amends, I would like to speak with Illiandra. At the very least to apologize. I own her that much and I would be indebted to you and to Irlean if you could arrange it. I would have liked to communicate with her sooner but Irlean is not the easiest place to reach by courier”

Lilith: “I can’t see any way something like that could ever be arranged. From now on, it's me who you deal with, not Iliandra. The hand of friendship is always extended first by Irlean, when Baron’s can’t play nice it's me who they have to contend with.”

Garlend: “I see… Then if we are going to be seeing more of each other, perhaps you will allow me to learn more about you? Tell me...”

She immediately puts an end to any possibility of a good relationship.

Lilith: “No, I have nothing to say to you. I'm not your friend, and I don’t wish to know you any more than I already do. Soon you will see, like Harold, just how much the people of Irlean have done for your Barony already. If you want my advice, accept whatever demands my mother will propose to you. Otherwise, when you come back in five years, begging for our help, the offer will be nowhere near as sweet. The Feywood in its youth toppled a kingdom, and that was before the blood soaked its roots and darkened the forest. The venom that awakes within it now will run rampant on your Barony.”

Garlend: “Things such as organized battalions of treemen targeting key economic installations?”

Lilith: “Treekin are as intelligent as you and I, and they DON’T much care for humans unearthing the accursed silver.”
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[continuation of the dinner]

Garlend: “I must admit that I have a wedding to attend. Yet I will stay as long as I must to make this peace work, so long as you will have me.”

Araksji: “I will see what I can do to accommodate that.”

You turn to Araksji’s youngest as she takes her seat.

Garlend: “Alyia your performance was wonderful, how long have you been playing the flute?”

Alyia seems nervous when speaking. Often she will look at her mother for some silent instruction or approval.

Alya: “Thank you Baron, I have been playing since I could remember.”

Garlend: “I feel as If I had heard the song before but can't quite place it, does the song have a name?”

Alya: “I'm afraid not Baron, it is a tune I modified specifically for this performance. It is normally played to ease aggression between two wild trees. I had chosen it for its symbolic significance today.”

Then it’s possible you have heard the original tune before, but when would you have had the opportunity? Perhaps if you could get Alya to play it for you it could help jog your memory. It will have to wait for another time however as you have much else to talk about.

>Ask them of their opinions on Shalott

Alya: “Shalott? Mother, was that not a place you visited?”

Araksji: “You are mistaken hatchling, it was your grandmother who was once there. I have never been, nor do I know anything about it. The Baron Garlend will have to ask Baron Uther.”

>Tell her of the future war that Uther warned us about

Araksji: “That is indeed concerning. Despite Irlean’s duties to the Feywood, we of course swear fealty to old Ynedrred and share in the concerns of our fellow Barons. Yet I must admit that in my experience, Uther often see’s giants in the shadows of men. I do not believe the Gasickan Empire will attempt to encapsulate Ynedrred any time soon. The raids are a sign of destabilization not organization.”

>I am not well-versed in diplomacy, but I have got a doubt many of my peers share and might come up in the Meeting of the Barons and is of vital importance for the future of Ynerred. I ask you to dont think of my question as an insult to your abilities.

Araksji: “Please go on”
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>The wood is growing and it seems you can only slow it down. Are you able to revert this tendency or will it one day swallow all Ynerred? What has changed between the past and now to justify that growth?

Araksji: “What has changed is simple my dear Garlend. Ynedrred is no more and the royal funding has stopped. At the time of Irleans founding, this site was little more than a meeting place for the druids.There was but one communal lodging. The simple necessities of life such as food and shelter were all provided by the crown. Nowadays Irlean has been left to fend for itself, and has faced down many would-be conquerors in the early days of the sundering. All the while staying true to our age old charge; keeping the forest balanced. This is no secret of course, we provide what assistance we can and if the Baronies want more we will be happy to give it. Assuming they are willing to help with the finances. Then the same play starts to repeat itself, first they give, then they are not happy with what they get, then they try to bleed the Feywood, then they suffer its wrath, then they blame us. A seemingly inescapable cycle. Perhaps one day long from now the Feywood will swallow all of Ynedrred, but I don’t assume any of us or our descendants will be around to see it”

>The giants' monuments are far and wide. Do you know if they did anything on a far away land which might serve to cure what aid the forest? Some library ancient library or elf that might know how to cleanse the stain from the Feywood?

Araksji: “The cure already exists, the tree tenders gave the lore of the trees to the druids and we do our best to be worthy of that honour. Yet one cannot provide the antidote to the patient that has yet to be removed from the snake. Men, such as yourself, continue to make war upon the wood and in turn it makes war upon them. Who drew first blood is a long forgotten memory, but unless the fighting stops the problem will continue.”


>Would you permit your endearing daughter Alyia to meet my younger brother Oliver in Upper Reichland; to repay your kindness and hospitality?

Alya: “Me?”

Araksji: “Perhaps, but as things stand today, I'm not sure that would be appropriate. You will have to make due with my daughter Lilith for now.”

>what do?
1) Go over Lilith's head and ask Araksji to see her daughter Illiandra
-Yes, we must speak with her.
- No, let the issue rest.

2) Is there anything else you want to ask Araksji or her daughters over dinner? The real diplomatic talks start tomorrow
-Write in
-No i'm good
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Decisions that get no votes, OR are tied, will be resolved by your advisors.

Thats it for today, advice from Nyeuu comes tomorrow. Sorry but i'm still getting back into the swing of QMing after two weeks break and its really really hot outside.
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>>4851101
>Yes, we must speak with her.
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>>4851101
>No, let the issue rest.

Guys it's clearly not wanted or appropriate to see Illiandra, can we just drop it and move on?

>No i'm good

Let's just keep the talks quick and simple- apologize and offer that we didn't fully understand the difficulties they go through- make a pledge to try not to intervene anymore in the Feywood unless it directly affects our personal safety in some way, and maybe work out some deal to give them a little food or money to make up for damages and to support their services. Then we gtfo and move on.
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>>4851126
No. We were even told that Illiandra is not "route locked." Like this is a totally viable option, and we don't even have to romance here. We just care.
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ngl going full Uruk-hai on the Feywood sounds like a FUN timeline
but it would be really weird to commit to that at this point so I say just support Araksji from now on
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>>4851140
Tbh Irlean is pretty obviously scamming people out of their gold at this point. I don't think diplomacy will be an option.
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>>4851101
-Yes, we must speak with her.

-No i'm good

Nothing ventured, nothing gained. We will be scorned and spurned by Iliandra and this whole damn barony perhaps, but we're here. We can't just hang our head low and abandon tye effort without even attempting to talk to her directly. We may not WED her but, damnit, we'll utter our apology to her. Lana too, if we get the chance.
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>>4851143
They may or may not be, but I don't think they see it that way.
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>>4851101
-Yes, we must speak with her.
To make amends to her personally.

What are we eating? Did you cook this yourself, Araksji? It tastes quite good.
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>>4851101
>- No, let the issue rest.

It'll only cause more trouble with Lilith in the future if we go over her head, but we can mention that we'd hope to make our amends to Illiandra personal when they see fit. Lilith is a test for us, and we must make good with her to convince Araksji that our intentions for peace be true.

>I am but a simple man at heart. If you are willing to show me what you deal with daily, and what would be the proper and healthy way to deal with it, I would be willing to help instead of causing more trouble for us (and Ynedrred).

Being more open about their struggles and how they operate would help Garlend better understand them and (hopefully) make him more willing to help out. Personally I would like to help them out with their finances when we get our own in order. If we slow down the woods enough it may avert the worst of the ire from the realm of men.

>This is food is delicious. My compliments to the chef.

>>4851140
Lets only go full Uruk-hai on the Feywood only if needed. I don't want to be fighting a woodland Vietnam if we can afford not to.

>>4851143
Maybe you're right. But we should try anyway. Plus, what would they do with the extra funds? They don't seem to live a luxurious lifestyle here.
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>>4851060
C-c-cute!
Fucking drop everything! We need to find shortstack goblin wife.
RIGHT! NOW!

>>4851101
>No, let the issue rest.
Maybe mention her in passing, but don't actively ask to see her. Lilith already all over us as is, the bitch.

>Is there anything else you want to ask Araksji or her daughters over dinner?
Well since Lilith is a dead end, let's try to learn more about the other two.
Small talk questions and shit. You know the ones.
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>>4851220
The most successful scammers never think of what they're doing as scamming.

>>4851344
>What would they do with the extra funds?
That's what I would like to know. Based on what I've already seen, they seem to operate in extreme secrecy and rely on subversion, intrigue, and guerilla warfare, not direct military combat, to resolve conflicts. We should be careful of what we say here. Even if we establish that peace is not an option, tipping our hand early could lead to us having our throats slit in our sleep.
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>>4851126
>>4851344
>>4851448
Also, for all of you considering not speaking to Illiandra, she's one of the few people who knows what's going on and has a decent chance of being honest with us about it. I wouldn't be surprised if her own druids backstabbed her on her mother's orders even, because she was too willing to help us. Having her help would be extremely beneficial right now, even if we have no plans to romance her. And hey, if she was betrayed by Irlean, marrying her could give us a claim to the entire Barony since we would likely want to go to war anyways at that point, which would 100% change my opinion of her.
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>>4851101
>Ask Araksji to explain in a bit more detail what gold donations from other Baronies are used for.
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>>4851604
Subversion isn't quite apt here, but I do agree with all but the last of the points. If they slit our throats, they'll be in huge trouble, and I'm sure Oliver will burn down the Feywoods as a response.
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>>4851609
This is true, but if we make it obvious that peace is not possible anyways, what will stop them from killing us preemptively? There's no reason not to if they know we'll be returning with an army anyways.
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>>4851607
Honest, yes, but not direct. I don't think Illiandra means us any harm, and may be willing to help, but subtlety and vague words won't help Garlend trust her, regardless of intentions.

You make an interesting point about her being betrayed by the druids though. We honestly don't know the political situation in Irlean, so that might be possible. Regardless, I don't think pushing the issue will get us anywhere favorable, and I have a hunch that we may see her anyway my her own volition.

>>4851611
Then they make war inevitable. Assassinating us before we get out of their barony will alienate them further from the rest of Ynedrred, and will cause Oliver to burn the Feywoods to the ground, with Kingsland's support. Even if peace can't be achieved, it is better to have an understanding than it is to invite destruction down upon them all.
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>>4851622
>but subtlety and vague words won't help Garlend trust her
I don't plan to be subtle around her this time.

>Regardless, I don't think pushing the issue will get us anywhere favorable
It's still a reasonable request to make, as we genuinely care about Illiandra's well-being. If we're shot down hard we can worry about seeing her ourselves then.

>Assassinating us before we get out of their barony will alienate them further from the rest of Ynedrred.

They're already alienated, we've just disclosed that the rest of the Barons are at minimum concerned and at most openly plotting against Irlean.

>with Kingsland's support
We already have Kingsland's support against the Feywood no matter what happens to us.
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>>4851101
>- No, let the issue rest.
>-No i'm good

Illiandra is a DIRTY HO
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>>4851631
If it's just a reasonable request instead of 'I must see her', then I don't mind asking, just make sure it isn't demanding or that it seems like we're going over Lilith's head. I wouldn't want to give Lilith a reason to not give us a fair chance.

>>4851651
Kek, that gave me a good chuckle.
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>>4851113
>>4851935
The wording used could be simple. Something like, "I know Lilith has difficulty trusting in me, but I find it extremely important to speak to Illiandra after her injury. She was helping one of my adventurers when their party was attacked, and I feel responsible to at least make it up to her, even if it wasn't my fault. Making peace with her is a big part of making peace with Irlean."
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>>4851109
1)
>No, Let the issue Rest
2)
Abstain
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>>4851651
Rude
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>>4851109
>Yes we must speak with her
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>>4852027
That seems alright, just leave off the fault bit, it'll just rile Lilith up.
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>>4852310
I'm fine with just not mentioning Lilith in that case.
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>Fucking drop everything! We need to find shortstack goblin wife.
WARNING goblins are NOT actually cute. The redhead short stack halfling waifu will be introduced to the quest only AFTER you have picked a Tallman wife and married her.

>Plus, what would they do with the extra funds? They don't seem to live a luxurious lifestyle here.
From Garlends perception, Araksji lives in a fine manor that's on the same level as the other Barons you have visited, if not a little nicer. The nicest thing you have seen here is the abundance of silk clothing. The most grand / lavish living arrangements were in Dunkkridge. Generally, Irlean seems like a [LOW] material wealth Barony. Again, this is based off Garlend’s perception.

>>4852396
Peace through power
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[Dinner conversation: Final (No, Let the issue Rest)]

>What are we eating? Did you cook this yourself, Araksji? It tastes quite good.

Araksji: “It is a local quail, you see not all creatures within the Feywood are monstrous. Your compliments will have to go to the chef however, as I have not prepared my own meal in a long time. I hope to rectify that soon, nothing like catching your own prey is there?”

Garlend: “Do you Hunt Araksji? “

Araksji: “Only when my meal doesn't come to me.“

>What would they do with the extra funds?
>Ask Araksji to explain in a bit more detail what gold donations from other Baronies are used for.

Araksji: “Everything, from simple things such as basic furniture and the imported carrots you are eating, to the more complex such as maintenance of our humble armed forces and residential expansion. Most importantly, it is used to train and facilitate more druids. You see, for the druids are to continue their existence and fulfill their mandate into the future, Irlean itself must also survive and grow.

>I am but a simple man at heart. If you are willing to show me what you deal with daily, and what would be the proper and healthy way to deal with it, I would be willing to help instead of causing more trouble for us (and Ynedrred).

Araksji: “I understand your concerns, but that is simply not possible. Often Irlean is accused of setting the Feywood loose upon our ‘enemies’. Even though it is far from the truth, it is in the realm of possibility that someone with the sacred knowledge could indeed turn the forest to darker purposes. For that very reason, Irlean must be guarded from all outsiders and intervention. Should the knowledge fall into the wrong hands, the effect could be disastrous. This is the reason for our great secrecy, and why only men born and raised in Irlean can ever become druids.”
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[Advice from Nyeuu]

That night you are shown to your room, separate from both Nyeuu and your knight. Normally this would be quite logical, but you have been having an inkling of worry that you may wake to find your throat cut. That worry blossoms into a different kind of fear, what if its Nyeuu who gets his throat cut? Should something happen to the Baron of U.Reichland the repercussions would be heavy, but what if it's just his advisor? If they wanted to send some kind of heavy handed message this could be how it would be done. Nyeuu is even blindfolded, he would be a sitting duck!

You have them bring Nyeuu’s bed into your room and make the decision that the two of you will be sharing a dorm while you are here. It's under the guise of needing a chance to speak with him in private, and your concern that he won’t be able to manage alone blind folded as he is. Yet the reality is quite dark, you are starting to fear for his life. The chance to speak with him in private is just a bonus.

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Being forced to keep his mouth shut all day has left Nyeuu with much he needs to say and get off his chest. As he takes off his robes and gets ready for bed he gives you his input.

Nyeuu: “Im proud of you for the way you handled Lilith, a younger Garlend may have really given her a reason to despise you. Things may seem lost since she has refuted all attempts to be friendly, but you have yet to give her a visible reason to actually dislike you that she can hold onto. All she can go on is stories that come from other people. Some are more susceptible to building up a person in their mind without even meeting them, while others need to make up their mind for themselves. I think Lilith is one of these people, your actions will speak louder to her then your words ever will. If she is really the person you will be dealing with from now on, then worry about building the relationship up over years instead of days and weeks.”
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With his robes removed, you immediately see Nyeuu’s back, hips, and inner thighs are covered in scars. Most are old, but a few are new. The signs of self flagellation are impossible to miss, but on his back are also the telltale scares of a man who has received lashings. All ten of them are clearly marked into his back. You can’t help but wonder about the story behind them. What could a kind and pleasant man such as Nyeuu ever have done to deserve such cruel punishment?

Nyeuu: “Araksji seems to have strong control over her daughters, and its more than just respect. I think they may be afraid of her. Of course that's only from what I sense and hear, I could be wrong. Much of what a person is thinking is on one's face, and this blindfold makes it hard to make an accurate judgment.”

Garlend: “Do you think Araksji is being honest about where the money is going?”

Nyeuu: “I’m afraid I don’t know, they have gone to great lengths to keep us in the dark and have a convenient excuse. For all we know there is a pile of treasure just on the other side of that wall. Unless you can get a spy in Irlean, or find a way to do some exploring, you are just going to have to make a judgment call.”

You stick your head out of a window to have a look around. You can see there are guards stationed just below your window. There is Ivy all over the walls that can be used to climb in and out of your room. An assassin could use these to get in here, but they can also be used to get out if you are willing to take the risk.

Nyeuu: “Uhhh… Garland? You are still here right?”

Garlend: “Ah sorry, yes I'm still here. I haven't escaped out the window or anything”

Nyeuu: “I really hope you are not entertaining the idea.”

>what do?
- A good nights sleep of course
- Attempt to sneak out
- Ask Nyeuu about his scars
- Write in
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[Tomorrow in the afternoon, Araksji holds a meeting]

You thank Araksji for facilitating this official political meeting so quickly. Since you had informed her of your wish to catch your friend's wedding, she has moved up her timetable. The Baroness is joined by Lilith and a few other figureheads while you only really have Nyeuu in your court. It only takes a few exchanges of small importance before Araksji begins to outline her grievances with U.Reichland. From her perspective you had attacked the Feywood, which she sees as her jurisdiction as outlined in the “Kings Law”, without informing her in anyway and without first seeking any council. She explains that your actions have had several repercussions and have made her duty harder to perform. First, by attacking the Feywood, you have caused the wood to become much more hostile throughout. This in turn makes it much harder for her druids to maintain the forest and keep their pledges to the other Barons. Second, the attack caused the forest to lash out, and some of the druids had lost their lives because of your actions. Now they need to be replaced. Third, your actions have caused the forest to strike out in the direction of other Baronies as well, again making Irleans job much harder. However, Araksji does not feel that your actions have put your two baronies into open conflict. She does not consider your two states to be at war by any measure. It does, however, mean that she has decided to let you take the brunt of the forest's reprisal by pulling the druids active in your region out and reassigning them elsewhere. If you wish to make amends for what you have done, the only way you can is unfortunately to pay reparations. Additionally, as an act of good faith, she wishes for you to sign an agreement that you will never again raise your sword to the Feywood without first seeking Irlean’s council and exhausting all other options.

-Summery :

Irlean wants you to pay reparations in the form of [2][coin]s every year for three years, then [1][coin] for the next seven. Equaling to [13] coins to be paid over ten years. This money will be used to replace the druids that have been lost, as well as train new druids to make up for the lost time.

Irlean also wants you to make an official signed promise to never attack the Feywood again without first consulting Irlean and exhausting all other options.

Nyeuu: (in private) ”Her offer is incredibly steep Garlend, perhaps you should request third party arbitration in Arvalony and send Sasha in your sted.”

>what do
- Accept the terms as they are
- Request private conversation with Araksji. “Araksji, surely there is something else we can do for each other...” (secret deals)
- Follow Nyeuu’s advice and request third party arbitration to be conducted in Arvalony.
- Official Counter offer (Specify)
- Write in
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>>4852511
>Follow Nyeuu’s advice and request third party arbitration to be conducted in Arvalony, at a later date. Go personally and bring Nyeuu with you.

Sasha can't negotiate these kinds of deals to save her life, and a secret deal just seems to be begging to invite trouble. She doesn't seem like the type to budge on a counteroffer either.
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>>4852510
>Attempt to sneak out
Also, fuck it, we've got shit to investigate.
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>>4852510
>Attempt to sneak out
Maybe we can get some leverage or find out some neat secrets. If we get caught frame it as going to catch some air!

>>4852511
>Follow Nyeuu’s advice and request third party arbitration to be conducted in Arvalony.

If her request was just the 2 coins a year for three years and the whole no attacking feywood without permissions thing, it'd be steep but I could accept it. The additional 1 coin a year for 7 years though is fucking egregious. However many druids she lost is not worth 13 coin, that's absolutely insane. Perhaps Sasha can help us figure something out- maybe we can lend them some of our military as mercenaries every year to help protect their kingdom so they can put military finances to training druids, or perhaps we can help them with some large undertaking that puts ourselves at risk- but that kind of money is way too much
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>>4852510
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>>4852510
- Attempt to sneak out
Find Illiandra.

>>4852511
- Write in
We cannot agree to these terms because we don't have the money to pay, we do not have a means to come to your lands to consult you in a timely manner, and should the Feywood attack, we we will defend ourselves.
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>>4852510
>- Ask Nyeuu about his scars

If you don't wish to speak of it, then I won't pester you any more on the subject, but as your friend I feel the need to ask.

>>4852511
>- Request private conversation with Araksji. “Araksji, surely there is something else we can do for each other...” (secret deals)

I'm incredibly curious, even is this does invite future trouble.

Otherwise, I'm willing to accept the original bargain (as this will come out of our silver trade, and still leaves us with a profit), but I'm going to have to insist on a druid liaison to help advise us on matters of the Feywood, reassert U.Reichland's right to self-defense if the Feywood attacks, and that any consultation with Irlean will happen in a swift and immediate matter as possible.

I'm willing to bury the hatchet with a pile of gold.

>>4852513
I say we enjoy some of the fresh air, maybe speak a bit to Irlean's beautiful women and our blindfolded bro.

And it sounds like a certain sneak would've been a very useful scout. Maybe we'll try our luck next time we visit lads.
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>>4852510
>- Ask Nyeuu about his scars

Maybe we can exchange some war-stories. Maybe we can help him unburden as he has done for us.

>- Request private conversation with Araksji. “Araksji, surely there is something else we can do for each other...” (secret deals)
>- Write in
Unite our baronies' interests through marriage, and thus always have one of her daughters at our side to provide us council. Also: a decent dowry, but not as steep as what she's asking. She would have influence in U.Reichland, and we will have our waifu.

>>4852513
Try and catch a moment with Iliandra, or at least learn where she is.
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>>4852602
Very against this. She already said it wasn't appropriate when we mentioned sending the youngest to meet our brother considering our situation, telling her to give US a daughter to marry for a dowry cheaper than her first offer and so we can always have an advisor is just...ludicrous. Maximum autism. Please do not write Garlend bringing this up
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>>4852613
You don't think an isolated Baroness with many suspicious fairweather friends would appreciate having a set of ears and eyes in our court? You amke a fair point about how doing this to offset the cost may come across, though. Perhaps we can agree to those terms but spread out across a longer duration in deference to our financial situation and the idea that we'll then be family?
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>>4852628
You're misunderstanding. She already expressed distate at even mentioning bringing up her daughter meeting our brother, imagine us asking to marry one of her daughters ourselves- the one who caused the issue.

Furthermore, through fienviktor and our other insights into romance, we know there is a courting process. We don't just say "give me your kid to marry", especially when we don't know 2 out of 3 and the third got hurt in our lands helping us out and who we haven't spoken to in over a year at least in the story.

Giving us a daughter to marry is drastically more of a boon to us than her, the eyes and ears in our court are not worth what we stand to gain and what we would be asking for. It just reeks of social faux pas and asking for trouble.
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>>4852637
To be fair, that daughter was the youngest one and that was a bit forward for someone who they may or may not be fighting soon. I honestly didn't expect the younger daughter in our court bit to come up really.

Otherwise, I do agree that proposing marriage is very forward to someone who not a week ago considered us a potential enemy.
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>>4852637
Eh, fine. I cede.

But at least suggest that we do something akin to the embassy exchange we did with Midland, to help us and the Irleaneans understand each other better. And I still want to

>Try and catch a moment with Iliandra, or at least learn where she is.

>>4852513
Altering votes as above, QM.
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>>4852513
>Ask Nyeuu About his scars

BECAUSE FUCK, IF THERE'S EVER A TERRIBLE IDEA, IT'S RUNNING OFF ON OUR OWN HERE. JFC.

>Request a Third-Party arbitration. We would gladly sign a treaty of non-aggression, but the size of the reparations would greatly stifle the prosperity of our people.

We don't have the income for 2 coins a year. The best we can do is 1, and just extend it to the whole 13 years. That's far more manageable. If people are up to doing just a counter-offer. I'd really suggest that.
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>>4852546
Care to elaborate?
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Here's another thought for taking the steep deal. It'll please not only Irlean, but potentially Arvalony, which may make them more agreeable to the Midlan embassy, even if Uther doesn't like the idea. The goodwill we'll buy may well be worth it, if it'll help lower some of the issues the other barons will bring up over the embassy.

>>4852674
>one coin profit

I thought so as well, but that's only because we cannibalized our silver trade for the Feywood campaign, so I'm expecting the tariffs to return to its original 3 coin revenue at the least, but probably more so now that the Feywood isn't harassing the mining operations now.

Of course, I may be wrong in my assumptions. Hopefully RRQM will correct me if I'm mistaken.
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>>4852678
Anon is upset at the femboi's continued stupid sexy presence.

Nyeuu is great

>>4852695
If you're not wrong, I'm down to pay them their reparations. But I want that Irleanian embassy exchange.
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>>4852711
A druid liaison is the least they can do, if we're paying such a steep price. It still leaves me curious as to what the secret deal could be. Keep in mind lads, we have no need to take such a deal if we don't wish, this would merely be hearing out the alternatives.

Nyeuu is indeed great.
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>>4852513
>Ask Nyeu about his scars
We're probably never going to get a better opportunity to ask about them than now.
>Follow Nyeu's advice and request third party aribitration to be conducted in Arvalony
FUCK paying that much gold
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>>4852510
>A good nights sleep of course
ask about scars outside this cursed land

>Follow Nyeuu’s advice and request third party arbitration to be conducted in Arvalony.

>>4852523
yes she can. that's like the only thing she can do to save her life lol
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>>4852729
Nyeuu for diplomacy and Sasha for finances is the dream team, with Garlend and Gustoff to provide muscle to back our own deals and Thief to rob their house while we're chatting all boujie and shit.

>>4852513
I'd also to make our own perspective clwar: that the forest was endangering our allies and our coffers, nd that we saw our attempt to rectify the matter by Irleanian methods foiled in the same tragic incident which so hurt Iliandra. That we were forced to take drastic measures and, when Irlean even made the effort to turn up, it wasn't to offer an alternative solution: just warnings which sound like threats.

I don't like how quickly we've guven up our position of strength. I honestly still think that they should be begging US, not making demands. Had we not made a knightly oath to mend this divide, I'd be playing hardball. This is really blood-boiling when I think of how we trounced the woods and were striding in here a victorious Sword Baron, on our own initiative.

If they won't talk embassy or some other forn of improving politics ties and establishing clearer communication, I think we should brave their precious woods' retribution.
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I was afraid the amount of gold would derail the peace talks. I'm not even surprised anons won't even consider the secret dealings as a potential no-to-low cost option.

>>4852768
>the forest was endangering our allies and our coffers
>our coffers
>pic related

Please don't mention our coffers as the reason for burning the Feywoods, as that just sounds petty. Better us defending our's and Kingland's soldiers and honoring our commitments than mentioning the money motive.

Second, no one benefits from an out of control Feywoods, least of all us with our Fyjord problems. Maybe if we kept Ali I would be more willing to stick it out, but as we lack any magical expert to cover for our lack of Feywood knowledge, I'm not willing to get involved in what would be the equivalent of a magical woodland Vietnam on our borders. I don't care if they don't recognize our supposed 'position of strength', as we'll have to contend with every baron getting on our ass because of the Feywood campaign and our Midlan embassy.

I agree that Irlean's not been the most forward of neighbors, and their lack of transparency is very frustrating, though that could be due to Nyeuu's presence. But we have nothing to gain by creating even more trouble with our neighbors.

Also, what did you expect to demand of them? Gold meant for their druids? Complete submission?
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>>4852804
Our coffers are the difference between our people starving in tough times or thriving. Our coffers are the difference between our people being defenceless against Fyord aggression or standing their ground and keeping their lives and communities intact. They're anything but petty, and a baroness who is all about restocking HER coffers for the sake of HER barony's people and their duty will get that.

>Also, what did you expect to demand of them? Gold meant for their druids? Complete submission?

Peace on our terms, with cultural exchange and transparency, so we can find a solution that protects our allies, our people, our borders, our mines, and our shared Ynnedrean heritage.

>I'm not even surprised anons won't even consider the secret dealings as a potential no-to-low cost option.

I'll support you on the idea of HEARING it, but as yous aid, "A druid liaison is the least they can do."
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I am keeping my vote as is, but I wouldn't be opposed to a counter offer of 3 coin a year for 3 years. 9 coin isn't much less than 13, and it's still a heavy price, but the repercussions aren't nearly as long- and I don't mind signing the feywood agreement either. They'd basically be getting the money much faster for a less overall amount, which is a standard principle in loans and economics. Less money faster is generally more useful than more money slower
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I wouod suggest we the above oath as long as it allows us to keep our riverside clear of trees. Also, mention the goblin attacks. Trying to kill them without touching the trees, covertly, would be fine, right?
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>>4852966
>>4852513
What I mean by this, is put the border on our river as a stopping point for the forest influence and ask if there could be a way to poison the gonlins' food stocks so we don't contravene the ´no violence rule" of the forest.
Also

>Suggest to prepare for the Meeting of Barons. Perhaps we could enshrine the "no attacking the Feywood" into official law there
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>>4852511
Okay going to do recollect all my proposals in the same post, see if they sound reasonable enough for anons to support them.

>Request third party arbitration to measure up the economic damages, BUT agree to pay 3 coins next year, in order to limit as much of the damage as possible. This will be discounted from the total account we have to settle.

My reasoning here is to ensure Irlean that they can go all in on druid training for now, make it so they now they can overspend this year and we will be there to support them. The sooner those druids are trained, the better for the realm. Stress this.

>Sign the promise, with caveats. You can clear your side of the river safe and that will not be considered an attack on the Feywood.

>The goblin issue. Mention the goblin attack we saw on the way. If they survive winters on Irelan, that means they must keep some sort of provisions for the winter. Were they to be poisoned or tainted, would that enrage the forest?

Basically, try to see if, since we can cut down the forest, we can regulate the gobbo population down to manageable levels.

>Ask for the families of the druids killed. Mention you are willing to present a written or in-person apology to them, or at least a monetary compensation, if that wouldn't feel crass. You are not pleased others paid the cost of your actions.

I feel this fits Garlend's character and may better our image to the Baroness.

>Mention, since silver is a powerful anti-magic metal. Would seeding the frontiers of the forest with silver so the roots can't grow be feasible? Even if took a huge quantity of silver?

Honestly, I am not very sure of this plan and it might be too expensive, but it could work

>Mention the posibility of a druid liason


>Secret deals (I assume this means no Nyeeu or Lilith in the room, like a sort of conversation over tea.

>Mention the Midlan's embassy and ask for her support in the meeting of the Barons. Try to appeal to her experience as a Baroness. Where the hell do you look for a spymaster?

>Comment on preparing a united front in order to deal with Harold in the meeting of the Barons or reach a behind the scenes agreement with a minimum of fuss. If battle is the thing that rouses the Feywood, would she be open to try to make it a no-go zone except for druids, similar to the Blue Mountain?

I feel this last one will appeal to her a lot and might be the one thing that wins her over.

Now, this might be a bit too controversila among anons, but I want to covertly set up a meeting without angering Lilith, which was the main problem of the last option. Not neccessarily to woo Illiandra, but just to check on her. Having good relationship with her will only help our barony in the future.

>I asked Lilith of Illiandra and she was quite crossed with me regarding her. I understand if you would bar me from meeting your daughter, but I didn't treat her trust put in me with the dignity I should and I would like to apologiz, even in letter form.
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>>4853125
As always anons, feel free to agree only with parts of this or proppose modifications. I just want to part with the best terms and relationship possible.
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>>4853130
I like pretty much all of it.
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>>4852511

>- A good nights sleep of course
>- Request private conversation with Araksji. “Araksji, surely there is something else we can do for each other...” (secret deals)
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>>4852510
>Ask Nyeuu about his scars
>>4852511
>Official Counter offer (3 coin a year for 3 years, agree to sign the Wood NAP, and offer a favor, military or otherwise they might need in the future.)
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>>4852889
I agree that finances are important, but to state it like it was the major motivating factor for our campaign (even if it was) which lost them druid lives is at best callous and undiplomatic. Framing is important, and if it looks like we're doing it for money, it'll be harder to shake off the image of a sellout when the Midlan embassy comes into play during the meeting of the barons.

I agree with the cultural exchange and transparency (even if Irlean doesn't), but what do you mean by peace on our terms?

>>4852894
I'd be fine with that, but we need a liaison, right to self-defense, and swift and immediate consultation when needed. I'm not willing to pay coin just so they can delay us taking action if the Feywoods does cause problems.

>>4852966
>>4852981
If the Feywood starts crossing the river, then we have a huge problem. Otherwise, I think the river acts as a natural border for the woodlands.

I think making 'no attacking the Feywood' into an official law will have negative ramifications for us down the road. If it's not our woods, why should we restrict our actions?

>>4853125
>My reasoning here is to ensure Irlean that they can go all in on druid training for now, make it so they now they can overspend this year and we will be there to support them. The sooner those druids are trained, the better for the realm. Stress this.

I agree with this reasoning.

>You can clear your side of the river safe and that will not be considered an attack on the Feywood.

I don't think the Feywoods will think it's not an attack, but keeping our side of the river clear of woods is a smart policy regardless.

>The goblin issue

I agree with raising the issue. Even if we aren't directly involved, it is quite concerning.

I agree that making an apology individually to the druids killed may be a smart move.

The silver plan is interesting, but we shouldn't mention it as that directly harms their interests.

I don't thing mention Midlan as apart of the deal is wise, but I don't mind asking her for advice or counsel. I'm a bit curious as to what she'll say desu.

>backstabbing Herold and siding with Irlean on making the Feywoods a no-go zone

I don't think it's wise alienating our ally and Irlean's neighbors by making the Feywoods a no-go zone. This will only benefit Irlean, not U.Reichland.

I agree with the attempt to see Illiandra. All the effort to keep us away has me curious as to why.
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>>4853125
As a heads up, the QM has said numerous times that goblins don't come from the feywood, they just happened to form a symbiotic relationship with some feywood critters. Destroying parts of the feywood would not halt the goblin population
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>>4853433
The right allows us to defend ourselves, it specifically just says we are to consult Irlean first and do our best to do things without fighting. It even says fighting can be used as a last resort. I do agree on pushing a druid liason though- THAT would allow us to actually be able to consult with Irlean quicker so we don't get screwed over by how hard they are to reach
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>>4853456
Ah, that you for the info. Best not to raise to goblin issue then.

>>4853458
You're right, my bad.
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>>4853462
>Thank* you for the info
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>>4853433
My reasoning for the Feywood no-go zone was a concession to her, and, honestly, if they are right about the Feywood, restricting entry as much as possible is a good thing. I feel this is the sort of thing she would like shrined in law.

>>4853456
I did not talk about destroying the Feywood. I meant poisoning the goblin winter provisions in a cover op, hopefully with druid guides and our ranger operatives.
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>>4853522
We'll lose more from that concession than we gain, and it may not work in any case. Harold will be furious, and the other barons may be opposed to this on principle alone. We'd need something of equal gain from Irlean if we're trading our political clout with Kingsland.
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>>4853522
Making the Feywood a no-go zone if it were a static piece of land would work, but the fact that the feywood constantly grows makes this ludicrous.

Especially considering that (even if its not true), many baronies are convinced Irlean is expanding the feywood for their own purposes, that basically makes any newly grown feywood uncontested land grabs. Even if they WEREN'T abusing the feywood now, it would give strong reason for them to.
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>>4853549
>>4853555
True true

I still stand by my goblin propposal though. And perhaps rather than a no-go zone, an agreement to try to not rouse it + get collective money for druid teaching? Make It a Ynerred problema rather than exclusively of the surrounding baronies problem.
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>>4854058
Maybe. I don't know how you'll convince Herold, Misgan, Dunnkridge and the rest of them to support spreading out the costs though.
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>>4854065
More reason for them to set up embassies and start being more open and less spooky.

[spoilers]and to marry off their hot-ass second-in-line to us so we're inclined to provide goodwill, but fuck it, it's too late to play hardball[/spoiler]
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>>4854065
More reason for them to set up embassies and start being more open and less spooky.

and to marry off their hot-ass second-in-line to us so we're inclined to provide goodwill, but fuck it, it's too late to play hardball
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I'm the anon who advocated for trying to marry Illiandra to make amends in the previous thread. Clearly relations are fucked to the point of that not even being possible, I think it's best now to just pursue Madalin instead.
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>>4854587
>>4854257
I don't fucking want to marry Madalin. We don't know her. We know Illiandra, she is a fun character and perhaps we could have meet her if anons were determined not to. Holy shit, sending the letter a while back would have opened so fucking many doors. Ugh.
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>>4854611
It's actually really sad how many anons don't even want to try to see Illiandra in a situation like this. Especially given how much help she could provide.
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You know what, fuck it.
>>4852511
>Write in (Ask about Illiandra and how she's doing and if we can see her. At the very least learn if she's doing alright.)
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>>4854783
I'm willing to +1 asking after we hear about the secret deal. It's isn't that I'd didn't want to see her, I just didn't want to go over Lilith's head in front of her.
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>>4853125 I already posted that with other IP, so, for the sake of clarity, consider it a +1 for this >>4854783
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>>4854611
>>4854765
Isn't Iliandra the second-in-line, and Lilith first?
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>>4855146
She is. What exactly is your point?
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>>4855146
Oh, yeah. Sorry, somehow my brain jumped to Madalin as second-in-line when that was Illiandra. I still feel bad if we don't try pursuing SOMETHING with her, even if it just saying goodbye.
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>>4852513
>- Follow Nyeuu’s advice and request third party arbitration to be conducted in Arvalony.

>The goblin issue. Mention the goblin attack we saw on the way. If they survive winters on Irelan, that means they must keep some sort of provisions for the winter. Were they to be poisoned or tainted, would that enrage the forest?

>Ask for the families of the druids killed. Mention you are willing to present a written or in-person apology to them, or at least a monetary compensation, if that wouldn't feel crass. You are not pleased others paid the cost of your actions.
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SOON BABY SOON I PROMISE

AAAAAAAAAAAAAHHH
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>>4854611
I feel like we can learn to love Madalin just fine, just like we can learn to love Illiandra, but one option I feel is closed off and it won't solve the problems of why I wanted a relationship in the first place. At the very least we can say good-bye and apologize hopefully. Otherwise I think Madalin would be a perfectly fine marriage.
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Im honestly starting to think this whole best girl dynamic is poisoning the quest a little. Every anon has their favorite and vehemently votes against relations with any other girl, but no girls have a majority, so all we do is blow away our chances or send them to Oliver. I tried to do a vote last thread to make a hierarchy of favorite to least favorite girls so we could settle it with a point value and no one cooperated with a numbered list, just said "Illiandra" or "Not Illiandra". Nothing is going to get done if we can't put aside our differences and make a choice when the time comes so we can get back to actually managing our barony.
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>>4856808
If not Iliandra, I will accept Lilith or Lana.

If neither of these, bang Nyeuu, and just make sure Oliver has an heir. We can Frederick the Great this situation and leave our barony to a nephew
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>>4856808
Waifu wars lad. No one ever really wins. We should have went in on Helena or Iliandra first thread.
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I know Garlend has only been at it for like, a year or two at most, but can anyone think of one outright positive thing that has happened since he's taken over?
What has Lord Garland done for his people lately besides cause international issues and get himself crippled?
I have a shit memory, but I genuinely can't think of anything....
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>>4856855
We have some of the lowest taxes in the kingdom. At the cost of lower profits than everyone else, our people are super happy and more people even come moving in here- though that was set up before we started.

Most of our 'good actions' have really only been for people close to us, we need to do better by our people. You could argue the midlan gold will improve our peoples lives or that helping kingsland helped the kingdom at large, but you're right in that on a national scale we've been pretty big fuckups. Hence why I'm eager to get back to barony management and do something right
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>>4856855
Could've gotten uncrippled. Could've charged with our men. Could've went to Shalott.

We did build a temple though.
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>>4856888
And may be hooking our little bro up with a brave young banner-maiden.
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Can you guys roll me some d30s real quick?
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Rolled 28, 21, 29 = 78 (3d30)

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>>4857544
Based Yule.
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faggot
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>>4857955
Talking to a mirror bro? You didn't mention anyone.
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>>4857955
Hostile Anon, is that you? I was afraid you missed the thread, and I'm glad to see you're back lad!
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>>4857970
I should kick your fucking teeth in you no good cock sucking moron, take a fucking hike.
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>>4858044
It is you! Never change, Hostile Anon.
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>>4858044
You're a natural wonder, my friend. I'm amazed at your dedication to show up for these.
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>>4857958
Something tells me you know exactly who I was fucking talkin about you shit eating mutt.
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>>4858064
there are multiple options, yourself is one of them. Though unlikely, you hadn't tagged anyone in the post so it was likely enough that I ventured the guess. Many people externalize their feelings of self-loathing in unique ways, after all.
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>>4858065
You scum sucking dipshit loser who the fuck do you think you are? How about you psycho-analyze this fucking dick Mr. Therapist?
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>>4848195
>>4858065
Now take a damn good fucking look at this you room temp IQ shit eating lobotomite, tell me this isn't the gayest shit on planet earth.
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>>4858070
Now now, you'll need to think of a more original line than that. If you want to hurt my feelings you're gonna have to dig deeper than that! What part of who you are do you really feel like you need to project onto someone else in order to deconstruct and distance yourself from so that you can feel better?

>>4858073
Ah, the classic. Have you ever considered that you're angry about people being gay, not because it's bad, but because you wish you could BE one of the people being gay? Nyeuu is an attractive man after all. I'm sure as someone contending with hiding their sexuality from themselves that it's very aggravating to feel so warm from the mere concept of a man's touch. Don't worry, being gay isn't a bad thing in the slightest.
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>>4858074
The fuck are you even talking about you cum gargling gaylord, 'he's a faggot, s-so you're gay!', do you even hear yourself right now? Jesus H. Christ talkin about projectors and shit go take a fucking hike, go get some fresh air.
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>>4858077
I have not once in my life gargled cum. Though, if that's something you like to think about, more power to you. Seriously, just take a moment and think about why homo-eroticism makes you feel this way. What about it makes you so frustrated?
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>>4858080
Open a window, take a deep fucking breath for me now kid, I'm getting worried over here, you're getting more fuckin stupid by the second.
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>>4858086
ah-ah-ah don't change the topic now, anon. Just because you're getting nervous about confronting this doesn't mean that you can run away. It seems like you've done enough of that in your life.
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>>4858088
Why don't I want to see gay shit in a quests about knights and shit? I don't know genius you tell me, it should be common sense. You haven't taken that breath of fresh air, have you?
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>>4858088
You're an artist, anon.
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>>4858101
Ah, sadly good friend, I have been asked not to engage with you any more. I'll send you an invoice in the mail later for the counseling. Expect it within 2-3 business days.
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>>4858102
Thank you! I take great pride in my work. Hopefully someday he sees an upturn in his life and becomes a good, kind person.
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>>4858105
>>4858103
Yeah that's right bitch, how about you upturn this fucking foot up your ass you wannabe therapist? See? These know-it-all types are dime a dozen, and each time I tell you folks it's the same damn thing.
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What the fuck is even going on here?
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>>4858116
diagnosis: mad cause gay
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>>4858616
See? See? See? Same shit, each time. Now fucking run, scatter from my sight, barking little bitch. Funny when I call out how fucking GAY this shit is, the best you can give me is, ‘no u.’ Try again.
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>>4858645
funny how when we call out how gay you are, the best you can give us is REEEEE
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>>4858745
>No u
It’s that easy.
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Just dropping by to say hello!! Fuck nigs and the fag who made this quest
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[Advice from Nyeuu :: Final]

Nyeuu starts to frantically fumble around the room looking for you, the idea that you may actually go out the window doesn't sit well with him one bit. When he fails to locate you instantly he moves his hand to the blindfold, and you get the impression that he is willing to remove the silkband in order to find you. Despite swearing he would keep it on for the duration of the trip.

Garlend: “I’m still here Nyeuu”

Speaking is enough to give away your exact location and Nyeuu takes hold of you for dear life. It seems that he is fully ready to attempt physically restraining you should the need arise.

Nyeuu: “Alright, come on big guy, get away from the window. Let's get you into bed.”

Garlend: “I wasn't being serious, it was only a joke.”

Nyeuu: “Yeah right, you were definitely thinking about it. Let's not fall back into immaturity now that you have grown so much.”

You let Nyeuu usher you away from the window and into your bed. As he does you can’t help but inspect his scars with further interest.

Garlend: “Is this how you treat your Baron? You have gotten quite brave.”

Nyeuu: “You made your true feelings clear at the Yule party. You wanted a friend and here he is, stopping you from doing something stupid.”


You let out a laugh.

Garlend: “Alright, alright. Well if i can’t go on an adventure then maybe you can entertain me with a story.”

Nyeuu: “A story? What kind?”

Garlend: “Like where you got those scars”

Nyeuu is hesitant to get into that story, but when the alternative is you attempting a daring night espionage mission, he decides to share a bit of his past with you.

Nyeuu: “Better settle in, it's a long story.”
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Nyeuu tells you that he originally comes from a city to the south called Itijka. There he lived with his parents until the age of seven. One day they realized that they couldn't afford to keep all their children. Soon after, he was sold to a slave trader to be resold elsewhere. Eventually he ended up as a servant to a prominent merchant. Even though he was a slave, the master noticed his affinity with numbers and interest in books. So he was thought to be a scribe and assistant. Over time, his master started to enjoy Nyeuus company and wanted him to “stay” in his current state. So he had decided to have Nyeuu castrated. Wishing to escape this fate, Nyeuu attempted to sneak away with the help of a friend. Another slave that worked in the master’s stables. The two of them got pretty close and the young man wanted to save Nyeuu from the unpleasant future that was before him. Unfortunately, they were both caught. His friend got the rope, while he got the first five of his lashes. At the time, Nyeuu admits that he felt that he got the good deal of it; sacrificing his friend's life in exchange to keep his manhood. Yet now, he regrets the selfishness of his youth however, and deeply laments the death of his first true friend.

At this poin his master, feeling betrayed, had dismissed Nyeuu and sold him to a fishmonger. Yet Nyeuu yearned for his freedom after getting the taste of it, and this time he was able to escape. For the next five years he lived on the street and attempted to make his way back to his original home, a task which he never succeeded. Ultimately, it was the church that saved him. A passing priest found Nyeuu and took him to the orphanage to be trained as an acolyte. It was here that Nyeuu found his true calling.

Garlend: “They only explains the first five lashes, not the last five nor does it explain all the other scaring in your body. Did all that happen when you were in the church?”

Nyeuu: “I guess you really are following along. The rest of that story is actually very personal and i'm not sure I want to get into it right now. Maybe some other time?”

Garlend: “Its alright, I won’t force you.”

To hear part 2 of Nyeuu’s story you have to bring it up yourself in the FUTURE. If you manage to remember.
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[The Counteroffer] Real talk: I have been REALLY busy IRL, sorry for blasting through this part but it’s been half written for like three days. I'm doing my best not to succumb to the curse please forgive me. I'm losing focus on what this quest is about and need to hurry this Irlean part along, even if It means failing to deliver on everything I had planned for this region.]

The sum Araksji wishes you to pay is ridiculous, and you have a hard time believing that you killed [13 coin]s worth of druids without any kind of proof. In fact, you would be surprised if Irlean ever had [13 coin]s worth of goods inside the city at any given time.

Araksji : “It would be better if you viewed this sum as… Damage reparations instead of replacement costs. A druid life equates to decades of learning Garland, you would be hard pressed to put a true price on that.”

You are not sold, you know very well a man's life can easily be bought and sold. From your interactions with Araksji, YOU know that SHE knows this as well as any Baron. Before you even consider paying such an outrageous fee, you have some concessions of your own.

1) You must have a right to defend yourself should the wood ever threaten or attack your borders. This will include a method of rapid response from Irlean to give you council. You cannot be expected to wait several months every time the feywood should cause mischief in your Barony.


2) To better facilitate the need for a rapid Irlean response. You demand either an embassy in their lands or an experienced druid to stay full time in Haldrin ready to render assistance.

3) A promise that the Feywood will never grow past the Sesip River.

Araksji : “I’m afraid I cannot abide an embassy in Irlean, there is too much knowledge here that must be protected. I am also hesitant to agree to a druid being stationed permanently in Haldrin. For reasons I cannot get into, druids simply cannot perform such a function. I would however be happy to grant you my daughter Lilith to stay in your barony for two months every summer, when the Feywood is most active. She knows much of the Druidic lore and can assist you as well as any druid. Lastly, you are always welcome to defend yourself from the creatures that stray into your lands Garlend, I only fear what you will do should your vengeance take you back into the wood. I can almost guarantee that the forest will never cross the river, but should the event ever arise it will be understood that you must do what you must do. As long as you inform Irlean of your action beforehand.”
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After a short back and forth you are able to talk Araksji down to rethinking how much she expects you to pay in reparations. The request for third party arbitration seems to have put her in a more agreeable mood. It get’s decided that the agreement will conclude during the Baron summit in the following year under Baron Uther’s arbitration.

As it stands you were able to --->

- Talk Araksji down to [8][Coin]s, [2][Coins] every year.
- Get Araksji to promise her Daughter Lilith to provide rapid counsel for two months of the year.
- Get an understanding that should anything cross the river, it's yours to destroy.

But in return --->

- You’re not to engage in direct campaigns against the Feywood, at home or abroad without Irlean council and support.

In a private conversation with Araskji after the meeting, you discuss how much it would mean to her should you successfully push a universal payment for druid recruitment across Ynedrred. So that the Burden would not only fall on the Barons who share a border with Irlean. Araksji tells you that such a dream seems almost unreachable, but there is no price you can set for her that would be too high if you could achieve it.

>What do?
- That's it, lets move on to Torlumbia
- There is still something I want to do here before I leave (Specify)

Also, if there are aspects of the deal you are still unhappy with. Feel free to specify. However, note that for everything you ask of them, Irlean will want something else from you. From Araksji's perspective, and from what Garlend and Nyeuu could achieve, the deal is currently "Balanced".
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>>4859042
>There is still something I want to do here before I leave (Specify)
We're seeing Illiandra before we get out of here.
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>>4859042
>There is still something I want to do here before I leave (Illiandra, if we can't see her, at least pass a letter telling her we're sorry about how things have happened and that we'll do what we can to make things right be her and her's.)
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>>4859042
>See Illiandra
>Ask if she can be our liason AFTER we talk with her

I wanna see if we can salvage our relationship
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>>4859042
>That's it, lets move on to Torlumbia
We've achieved our main goal, and the terms of the agreement are reasonable. I think all we can do in terms of the Illiandra situation is to tell Araksji to send our apologies and well-wishes to the fair second daughter and leave the land be for now.
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>>4859042
>That's it, lets move on to Torlumbia
Personally I'd like to have Illiandra over Lilith or at least see Illiandra to apologize, but I know these parts have been tough for QM to get through and for his sake im willing to try and hurry this tour along so we can get back to actually managing a barony and doing cool Baron stuff instead of playing dating sim
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Once again, I have won. When I claim a win? It's because I EARNED IT. Yup, that's me.
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>>4858070
>How about you psycho-analyze this fucking dick Mr. Therapist?

Seems pretty gay, Hostile Anon.

>>4858824
>Hostile Anon constantly birches about alleged samefagging by 1postbythisid anons in these threads and in the /qtg/
>summons friends to show up for no other purpose than to whine about quest progression so he doesn't seem alone

>>4859042
I too support trying to talk to (or at least leave a letter for) Illiandra. I'd also much rather she be our liaison, but I don't think we should try to force matters.

>>4848709
Oh, and before Hostile Anon has an aneurysm, I'm this poster (dOLuDUWT) on a phone, reading up and posting on my way home.
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>roll consistently high
>doesn't sneak out

I can't help but feel like it would've been great, maybe even healthy. Now I'm just saddened.

>>4859042
>Illiandra

Deal seems good to me, though I'm still curious as to what the secret deal would've been.

I'm also sorry to hear RL is keeping you busy. I hope some good will come of it, and if you need to take another break to deal with shit, take it. We'll be here when your ready and able mate.
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>>4859042
>That's it, lets move on to Torlumbia
We've done as much as we can for now.
Still seems like we're paying a lot, but it's getting arbitrated so we'll see if it's fair or going to fall further.
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>>4859082
>doing cool Baron stuff instead of playing dating sim

It's only been a dating sim since anons aren't doing anything else interesting on this tour. Dealing with Irlean was the only thing anons did of their own initiative.
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>>4859042
- There is still something I want to do here before I leave (Specify)
I will not sign any deal until I have talked with Illiandra for at least two days. Alone, with Nyeuu, as she has done while she was in my Barony during Yule with her escort Ser Hedrick. Also,
- Get Araksji to promise her Daughter Lilith to provide rapid counsel for two months of the year.
This will instead be Illiandra.
This is non-negotiable.
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>>4859275
That's coming on a bit *too* strong there buckaroo.
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>>4859265
>It's only been a dating sim since anons aren't doing anything else interesting on this tour. Dealing with Irlean was the only thing anons did of their own initiative.
>On their own initiative
But they didn't. Sure some anons were adamant about fixing relations, but they were not really thinking about that as a separate thing from getting marriage prospects. I cannot count on my fingers how many times people were being complete brainmelts and campaigning for immediate marriage with Illiandra despite all the idiotic risks that would come with the close relation with Irlean. Not to mention the fact that it was unlikely at best.
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>>4859265
In fairness, it WAS a MARRIAGE tour. It's how we went into it. both this tour AND Irlean in particular were of our own initiative. So was trying to hook up the banner-maiden with our little bro, for that matter, so between this negotiation and that, it isn't a FAILED tour by any means.
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>>4859318
Hey, it's still the only interested thing they've voted to do during this whole tour. RRQM keeps offering us chances to do shit and everybody keeps declining those opportunities.

And anons were having a meltdown at the prospect of going with the first girl. We really should've married in the first thread, even if it was to Background waifu.

>>4859321
I'm not saying it's a failed tour. It's actually been surprisingly productive to be honest. That doesn't dismiss anons not doing anything interesting beyond Feywood diplomacy and marriage prospects.
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>>4859376
>try to fuck elf one time to potentially fix our body, which anons are constantly complaining about. Anons against it because they don't like Garlend being gay and think it's desperate
Fine- extreme missed opportunity, but fair
>tried to get with madelin, anons sent her to Oliver
Not happy, but I can live- at least it narrows down the wife pool
>tried to sneak out to see whats up with irlean and maybe see illiandra, anons voted against it
Oh so we're just not going to do anything fun?

Every step of the way I've tried to either get the marriage thing settled, make stride towards it, or do something interesting and beneficial. The only risk I ever avoided this trip was going to the cursed tower because I didn't think the potential reward matched the extremely high risk of death, and because curses were confirmed real phenomena. Otherwise I've constantly pushed to do fun/cool shit and anons always shoot it down trying to play overly rational and logically instead of having fun in a fantasy world. Trust me, I get your frustration.
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>>4859449
Feywood adventure, jousting tournaments, a war on an accursed woodland, adopting a streetrat as a wacky spy, flirting with a spooky witch woman, assassinating a viking, going on a marriage tour, forcing diplomacy with a rival barony, playing gay chicken with our priest... I dunno, I'm having a grand old time.
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>>4859449
I think ever since we fucked up bad in the feywood and Gustoff got mad at us, anons have been afraid to do anything another character tells us we shouldn't, or that has any risk prescribed to it.

While it's one thing to try and be smart and play rationally when it comes to kingdom management, when it comes to Garlend's personal life or doing things like this marriage tour, it makes the game way more boring and causes us to miss lots of opportunities, and since we're spending such a long time trying to pick a wife because nobody can make up their minds, we have had a long stretch of missed opportunities and lame gameplay that's even got the poor QM bored trying to write all this dialogue.

I am pleading with anons to take the sticks out their asses and do something fun. Yeah the feywood fucked us up, but we're still alive. Yeah Gustoff got pissed, but we made up with him. Even if we fail and have bad things happen, we will either survive or Oliver will take over- whereas if we succeed it's way more fun and we can reap some benefits.

We need to stop being afraid of every scary option and start doing things that will get us somewhere and be more satisfied than a long string of rejecting opportunities or giving neutral responses.

>>4859455
I'm more talking about the series of decisions on this marriage tour, and even adopting the spy took some serious pleading on my and some other peoples parts to get anons to shift their attitudes.

I also agree that the jousting tournament and feywood adventure as well as the war were all fun- the times we actually took risks and did things that had positive and negative outcomes. Hell, outside the jousting tournament and the priest, just about all the fun stuff you described sprung from dealing with the Amazon and the feywood and its consequences, but those consequences have halted basically all further risk taking it seems which is a DAMN shame.
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>>4859463
I don't think risk-taking has stopped, is all I'm saying. We don't need to take EVERY risk, and there's certainly some I wish anons were ore willing to take, but I also like the character development angle and dialogue. Sorry if it's boring the QM...

But RRQM, can you confirm if this is the case? I'd assumed that giving us curious backstory tidbits like Nyeuu's scars was meant to encourage more dialogue and exploration of the characters, especially in a quest that "prioritizes the personal drama, and actions, of prominent characters in the world." If I'm wrong, let me know and I'll be sure to vote for a few more wacky or daring actions.
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>>4859449
>>4859463
I agree with you anon. The Feywood definitely made them risk adverse. I remember some anons complaining that Timor will cause a political stink and were going to kick him to the curb on that basis. Frustrating is an understatement, and it is quite a shame.

>>4859513
Don't think the QM is going to answer you, and I agree with character development angle, but playing a martial man of action as reserved as possible (except when it involves money) just makes me think people should've went with Leon instead of Garlend as the MC.
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>>4859042
>That's it, lets move on to Torlumbia
Illiandra and her whole family can't be trusted.
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>>4859042
>That's it, lets move on to Torlumbia

I feel like pushing for anything else at this point might be asking too much. And I'd like us to move onto that wedding too.
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>>4859318
I do not want to go straight to marriage with Illiandra. But she is just a cool character, we have a story with her and I feel that we could set up a strong character moment if we just decide to to see her and talk with her.

We can discuss waifuing later, but going to Irelan and not seeing Illiandra is a real shame. Like, why the hell would we pass such opportunity. Why is just talking with Illiandra automatically perceived as a marriage propposal.

I feel the lack of risk has been greatly exaggerated. Not entering a cursed tower, when curses are a very real thing in the setting is very sensible, especially when we are on a clock and cannot afford to recover in bed. The tower will still be there if we decide to go back to it.
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>>4859540
Hey there os a war brewing on the horizon. There will be opportunities for glory in the horizon. We just need to get a cure, possibly by entertaining the elf.

On that note
>>4859063
>>4859042
>Ask the Baroness about elves. Does she have any advice on how to deal with them/keep them entertained? Have any elves resided in Irlean for long stretches of time? Could be cool if there was a record.

>Tell her about the Midlan embassy. Does she have any idea about how to get an spymaster? Appeal to her experience as a Baroness over yours.
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>>4859661
>>4859724
>>4859063
By the way, these are all mine, with a different IP. Dont want to look like I am sockpuppetting
By the way, this is me with
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>>4859724
I am interested in the elf question, as it seems the Feywood has some. The Spymaster question I doubt she has any experience in, as she's lords over an isolated barony, and is more focused on druids than spycraft.
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>>4859042
You know, I'm half tempted to flirt with Araksji. Nothing serious, just as a nice compliment to a woman of her... experience.

I know anons are a stickler when it come women though, so I won't mind too much if I'm shot down.
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>>4861783
I'd rather not, but I'm on the Iliandra train unless that falls through. Even then, I'd shoot for Lilith or Lana, or even Nyeu first. I like me a witchy woman and a big titty goth GF, but Araksji is bad juju. She's too powerful, and we don't even have the advantage of prestige and rank over her as we do the others.
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Normally, I don’t like it when we vote for something then an update later we unvote it. BUT since it was a mass write in victory, I decided that we will try and speak with Iliandra. When Lilith finds out she will be MAD however.

You assumed that during your stay in Irlean, you would have a run in with Iliandra. That at some point, maybe over dinner, or while stretching your legs in the courtyard, she would make an appearance. Yet that doesn't seem to have happened. As your trip enters its final hour you are starting to feel that unless you make it happen, it's just not going to. You feel like you need to at least apologize, and more importantly, maybe get some closure. Ultimately, you decide to confront Araksji about it and request an audience with Iliandra.

As expected, there seems to be some reservation from the Baroness to let you see her daughter. Although, now that a treaty looks to be almost guaranteed between the two of you, she ultimately relents and agrees to the meeting. Lilith is livid that she has to escort you to meet her sister, you know this is going to bite you in the ass at some point in the future. Lilith seems like a woman who can hold a grudge for a long time.

You are led to a small secluded glade, and released from Lilith’s grasp. The elder sister informs you that Iliandra can be found just the way down. She also warns that you should mind your behaviour. If you hurt her sister, again, she guarantees you that you will never leave these woods alive.

Garlend: “As always Lilith, your hospitality is legendary.”
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Despite the darkness of the night, the sounds of a lute make it easy to find your way down the carved stone steps and over to the large Gazebo where Iliandra resides. Here, the trees part enough that the light of the moon provides almost sufficient illumination. Small lanterns filled with blue fireflies fill in the gaps where needed. Iliandra does not stop playing her lute even as you make your entrance, she doesn't even look at you. You take a moment to look upon her after over a year of absence. She still looks as fair as any flower, and now in her presence you remember well the touch of her skin. Not far from her is the familiar face of Ser Hedrick, Iliandra’s personal guard.

Seeing that Iliandra has no interest in making the first move, you take it upon yourself to slowly make your way over. You study her for any signs of injury, as last you heard she was harmed whilst in the Feywood on your behalf. Your eyes are unable to see anything upon inspection. Yet your ears can hear the sad playing of her lute, which weaves an inner story of pain and melancholy. You take a seat next to her on the bench, and she turns away from you.
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Garlend: “Iliandra, how do you fare? When you had not come to see me I grew worried. Often, have you been on my mind.”

For her part, Iliandra continues to give you the cold shoulder and offers you only the continued playing of her lute. You do your best to make one sided conversation in the hope it will have some effect. You tell her of your time in the other baronies, you speak of the day to day business of your life, You inform her of the people you have met, and you explain how you learned of her friendship with Lana. It has no effect on her demeanour. At this rate, you are going to find no success, so it's time to change your tactics. You think about what your father would do in a situation like this, and decide to play oblivious. As you know that once you manage to elicit even the smallest response from her, it's all you will need to break the dam holding her emotions in check.

Garlend: “I'm not sure why you are so angry with me, is it something I said or did? Is it because I didn't want to hear your flute playing? I just don’t have a fondness for wind instruments.”

A loud off tempo “twang” from her lute cuts the rhythm of her playing before she composes herself and returns to playing flawlessly.

Garlend: “Ah, I know what it is. I didn’t notice the new way you have done your hair. It looks wonderful truly, but I do think you are overreacting. Just because I didn't say anything doesn't mean I didn't notice.”

The music stops and Iliandra turns right around to look upon you.

Iliandra: ”Truly Garlend! Are you a fool, or do you simply play as one?”

Garlend: “If I am a fool, it is for you and you only.”

She puts down the lute, crosses her arms, turns back around, and once again gives you the silent treatment


Garlend: “Do not turn from me, there is much we have to say to one another.”

Iliandra: ”We have NOTHING to say to one another. Please leave me be.”

You would like to place your hands upon her, but it would be too much of a faux pass with Hedrick watching.

Garlend: “I cannot agree. First I must apologize to you, then you must tell me what I must do to make things right between us.”

Iliandra gets up and walks away from you, and you stand and follow close behind.She paces around the room and leads you around like a dog even without a leash.

Garlend: “Do not shut me out, I cannot bear it. Tell me what must be done and i'll do it. Perhaps I can-”
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Iliandra turns around and brings her open palm down upon you. It's an extremely weak strike of an amateur, yet you can sense the fury behind it. A small pause before she rains a set of plows down upon you once again. You would love nothing more than to stop her, as she is probably hurting herself much more than she is hurting you. Yet, once again, you cannot touch her.

Iliandra: ”You! You animal! You barbarian! You bandit! How dare you come here and ask for my forgiveness. I gave you nothing but my devotion and you betrayed me! How could you do that to me, you self centred, egotistical, -- PIG!”

Garlend: “Iliandra ple-”

She slaps you right across the face! She really put everything into that one, as it stung quite a bit. Yet for what it did to your cheek, it did to her palm as well. For now she tries to rub away the pain with her other hand. For a moment you think she is about to cry, but she turns right around and marches off again with you following after her.

Iliandra: ”I thought you were a knight! Gallant and true! But you are nothing more then a fleecer. You prayed upon me and hid your true intentions!”

She may be crying, you are not sure. Her voice is definitely cracking.

>What do with a hysterical emotional woman?
- Confess your love for her of course.
- Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.
- Apologize and Get out of here, she wants you gone so you’re gone.
- “Now listen here! You have done ME wrong as well!” you won't stand for this, after all SHE is the manipulative seductress!
- Write in
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uh-oh, woman trouble.
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>>4862391
>Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.
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>>4862391
- Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.
Our father's wisdom hasn't yet steered us wrong, and I don't want to destroy our chance at diplomacy here.
However, if she let's us get a word in edgewise:
>Explain what we are doing to mend our rift with Irlean and the Feywood, and to avoid this in the future
>Explain that we partly did it out of misplaced vengeance for her, as well as to protect our allies
>Admit that we may even... Fear the wood
And finally
>Confess our love, but understand if she does not share it

We didn't come this far and make QM reverse a decision with a mass write-in to chicken out NOW, fellows, DID WE?
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>>4862391
>Confess your love for her of course.
Both to make a move and because I'm hoping this ends up more romantic than spergy. Perhaps do this AFTER we apologize and let her vent first, but still I say we go big and show her that we're gonna do things right from now and do whatever it takes to make it up

And then we can finally stop debating over which girl we want and get back to business
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>- “Now listen here! You have done ME wrong as well!” you won't stand for this, after all SHE is the manipulative seductress!

imagine actually picking the SIMP option
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>>4862391
>Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.

she is a manipulative seductress, but because she is one accusing her of it will only let her turn it against us
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>>4862395

I can't actually remember what she did that was manipulative despite literally having just read the archives to catch up and be able to participate. I think the big thing was her trying to convince us to let her take the adventurer in early spring with her guidance instead of winter, I think anons assume the adventurer may have been successful otherwise and suspect she may have deliberately had him killed.. Aside from that I remember her being seductive and I guess the archetype makes us distrustful. Then there were the rumours of whether or not Irlean actually controls the Feywood, or if they merely prevent its spread but allow it to spread in certain directions of those they want to pressure or manipulate into paying them or whether they have the power to control the spread of the feywood at all. Then there were the people suspicious of her “future sight”, which I'm certain was never actually implied to be the ability to literally see the future so much as general knowledge of the feywood and thus the knowledge that if we attacked the feywood would grow more aggressive or 'darker'. Finally there is their general lack of transparency. Am I missing anything?

I acknowledge that Irlean is suspicious and that the adventurer thing casts suspicion on Iliandra or at least casts her competency and that of her Druids into question, but are we sure that she is ACTUALLY a manipulative seductress rather than this being an unfortunate series of events that causes both of us to doubt one another's integrity?

If we have no actual examples of her directly doing wrong, then lets just apologize. However if there is something I forgot or something she did wrong then we can perhaps go with the 4th prompt or perhaps at least share our suspicions with her to explain how we feel.

Anyways I vote...
>Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.
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>Normally, I don’t like it when we vote for something then an update later we unvote it. BUT since it was a mass write in victory, I decided that we will try and speak with Iliandra. When Lilith finds out she will be MAD however.

Yea, sorry about that. I honestly thought we would see her eventually. Didn't expect to speedrun Irlean.

>>4862391
>- Confess your love for her of course.

That'll shut her yap. I may be in the minority, but I do think this'll be for the best lads. We really should've been married first thread.

>>4862395
Gonna need a gift to appease Lilith. Willing to spend a coin for when next we meet, simply to fix us going over her head for this.

>>4862513
Honestly? I think it was because Iliandra wanted the D and everybody went full on Stalin in the paranoid department. That and an aversion the first girl(s) that put them off it.
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>>4862496
>And then we can finally stop debating over which girl we want and get back to business
This. She rejects us and we move on, or she doesn't... and we move on from waifuwars.

I'm >>4862495, btw. Not double-voting.
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>>4862588
>That and an aversion the first girl(s) that put them off it.

In fairness, she was three girls in.
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>>4862391
- Apologize and Get out of here, she wants you gone so you’re gone.

That's that I suppose. We tried at least.
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>>4862391
>- Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.
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Asking anons to go all in because if it works then marriage prospecting is over, and if it doesn't it'll narrow the pool down. Let's just go all in and mix confession with the letting her vent.
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>>4862391
Changing >>4862434 to
>Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.
THEN
>Confess your love for her of course.
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So...
Does anyone have any ideas for how we could possibly go about pushing for the universal druid payment plan?
How much work do you think that would take?
Who would be for and against this plan and how would we go about gaining leverage to secure their faith in the plan?
I know folks might not be 100% on board with pushing for it since we're still not 100% sure if Araksji and co. are scamming the shit outta everyone, but honestly, I just want some solid long-term goals on the table. We've kinda been fumbling around aimlessly for the past few threads and while a marriage would hopefully set us up for the next step of Garlend's life I'd still like to have a WrestleMania sign to point to while more plot hooks get introduced.
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>>4862391

Honestly, I would rather let her vent her frustrations at us, and then try to explain our admitedly poor reasons at our actions. Like, she is kinda right when she said she basically supported us in our lowest moment and we then just decided to burn her forest down.

I don't think confessing our love for her is a good choice at all. But acknowledging how much she did for us and that what we did was unforgivable might at least be sort of cathargic for her.

>Let her vent, in whatever form she wishes. Then try to apologize in the most heartfelt way you cna manage.

>"You're right. You cared for me in my lowest point, gave me all the support a man could ask for and I ignored it all. I tried justifying my misgiving as protecting my subjects well beings, but it was clear even then that my intentions were anything but noble. I have not abided by the oaths I swore as a knight of the Silver Circlet, seeking retribution like a petty child.

>"I cannot ask in good conscience ask for your forgiveness, for what I did was unforgivable. Of all the harm that my petty adventurism has caused the kingdom, from the druids of Irlean to the commonfolk of the surrounding baronies, I was most distraught by your sate of being. Your sister adviced me to leave you alone, but I had to see you, if only to convey you how ashamed I am of my actions.

>Kneel in front of her

>I have taken the first steps to amend by behavior, seeking to restore the peace I had disturbed and restore the damage I have caused. More shall follow. And even though my debt as a Baron might be not be able to be paid, even a thousandth of the one debt I own you for the love you dispensed me won't be repaid when every remembrance of Ynerred fades from thsi world. Even if you might never want to set a foot in my lands, know that you will forever welcomed in them and I forever shall strive to restore my honot in your eyes, however you shall see fit.

Half plea, half confession? I dunna I feel it can work.
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>>4863393
I thought advancing Midlan trade and making bank was a big one, then taming the Fyord?

But I could imagine more cynical but ambitious barons might be won over by the idea of centralizing control. Others may be won over by appeals to a shared Ynnedredian past, and the cooperation of the kingdom of old. Those in our knightly order can surely be swayed by the tale of how we went to make peace at the behest of our chapter-master. And with the dangers of war on not-Camelot's border, can we risk an individualist, laissez-faire attitude to such a internal threat? We all need to work together to get our house in order, nor squabble like spoiled siblings!
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>>4863393
I mean, most of the Barons near the Feywood pay the druid tax. Feels like they would enjoy sharing the burden with people who do not.

>>4863520
Uther almost became the chaptermaster. He was defeated by only one vote. But yeah, we can use Ynerred romanticism to guarantee Irelan an stable income for druid training.
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>>4863393
I would argue that becoming crippled would lead to us fumbling around, not to mention that completing our personal quest is now ultra-hard mode. I sometimes wonder what it would've been like if we just challenged the Amazon to a duel right there and then instead of worrying about losing a hand. I can't help but wonder how it would've turned out.

>>4863520
Advancing our coinage would've been Leon's thing. We voted for Garlend, yet we continue to act like Leon. Like, wtf lads?

Your also gonna need a more realpolitik reason for those less enthused by paying a national Druid tax. Midlan, Dunkkridge, Gren's Ridge, the Shire, Nyden, and Fyjord are going to be hard sells, and that doesn't include Herold thinking that Irlean are swindlers anyway lads.
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>>4863393
>We've kinda been fumbling around aimlessly for the past few thread

Speaking more on this, if you want some direction, maybe we should focus on completing our personal quest and getting healed? I'm still curious as to what'll happen if we manage to complete it.
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>>4864306
I think that's a great idea. Personal long term goals I'd like are

1. Completing the quest
2. Getting a proper spymaster/system up and running
3. Making a full-fledged alliance with at least two other baronies

After those are all complete, we can reap our benefits to raise our money per year and up our budget so we can raise a bigger army and maybe try to take on the fjord. It's a huge tract of land we could divvy up between allies that I feel would piss the least number of baronies off since they're kinda their own thing
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>>4864276
Herold may be willing if we assure him that we are using our recent victory to demand better response times, results, and transparency, nd if we get similar concessions for all those who pay as to what we got, ie. the right to imemdiate druid aid or violent defence againsg territorial encroachments. Dunkkridge will likely be jnterwsted if we frame it as a way to further unite the baronies and centralize control of defence and the like, I'm thinking.it'a worth a go!
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>>4864306
I wonder if we could complete a person quest for glory during a war with the Fyord? Let's father an heir or get Oliver set up first.
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>>4864328
I assume it would be a personal epic feat.
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>>4863393
I straight up don't think such a plan is viable. Harald may be hard to convince. Misgan, Dunkkridge, Gren's Ridge, The Shire, Nyden, and Fyjord have no reason to pay such a tax as they have buffers. Plus, part of the pitch of the quest in general was uniting Ynedrred, possibly via conquest, in addition to exploring the ruins of Revin underneath the shadow of The Blue Mountain. The various barons all have their own interests and if the meta knowledge from the very first post of the first thread is true, then literally everyone wants to rule Ynedrred as the sole ruler.

Still, I'll pitch some ideas, we could individually make deals, give concessions or negotiate bilateral treaties between ourselves and the barons that don't want to pay for druids in order for them to do so. I don't really see the point in doing this as we may have to give up a lot in order to benefit Irlean, so unless we get something significant out of this I don't see the point.

We could conquer Fyjord or provoke conflict with other baronies and wage limited war to gain territory, thus strengthening us. From this hegemonic position we could 'negotiate' other baronies into paying the tax for 'the good of the realm'. This comes with the obvious and severe problem of turning everyone against us. (if we attack other baronies that is)

We could convince Araksji to be more transparent, somehow. If they are telling the truth this could solve everything. The problem is actually convincing her, which may involve something like removing the church's influence from Ynedrred. That, and baronies not bordering the feywood may not care, regardless of the threat to the internal provinces.

We could form an alliance between all the internal baronies bordering the feywood, thus forming a pressure group that could bully all the other baronies into paying the tax via diplomatic, economic and military pressure. This could work, the hard part is actually doing the alliance building.

Of course there is all the ideas other anons have already put forth.
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>>4864598
> I don't really see the point in doing this as we may have to give up a lot in order to benefit Irlean, so unless we get something significant out of this I don't see the point.

If we do indeed marry Iliandra, and gradually build a rapport with her mother and sister, we could unify our baronies or at least tie them closely together in a union of iron and wood, steel and sorcery. We'd be a dominant power then, and if we've built a powerful trade network reliant on our military might to defend them from threats inside and out, and our traders to negotiate with Midlan, we could become a defacto regional power in charge of former-Ynedrred.

>This comes with the obvious and severe problem of turning everyone against us.
If we make them dependent, and raise their citizens' standards of living after any conquest they 'force' us into, we may yet triumph culturally AND militarily.
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>>4864598
Frankly, I think a conflict between Dunkkridge and L.Reichland is inevitable. Fienviktor said so himself. Real question is, how do we benefit from it?

Fyjord is the real wildcard here. They can hinder and help us, depending on how we play that hand.

Misgan will be a trouble spot, but may help with trade relations with Midlan if we play our cards right with them.

Herold will be a solid ally unless we fuck it up, but the hardest to convince of our rule in the end.

Arvalony is going to be a trouble spot when Authur becomes of age. I can see that writing on the wall.

Otwecc? Potentially a solid ally, if we play our cards right.

Irlean is going to be a troublesome neutral party, if only because of the nature of the Feywood. Wonderful.

Torlumbia is a breadbasket, so being friends with them gives us influence over the largest food provider in the kingdom.

Midlan's going to be different beast entirely. We should invest their coin while we have the chance, because I'm sure that they may try something, either the king or his counsel, and that pot of gold will dry up.
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told you bros this shit ain't gonna work out.
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>>4862395
>Just keep apologizing, letting her vent as needed, allow yourself to get slapped, and never ever disagree with her. You have seen your dad do this same song and dance with your mother, you just have to follow in his footsteps.

After she has had her fill, we apologize for troubling her with our intrusion, leave, and give her the initiative on any further interaction. Confessing love at this point would be completely fucking insensitive and you anons better not put that through.

At this point the best thing we can do after being fucking retarded and forcing our way into her space. Going against our word for your stupid long-gone romance that would never amount to anything.
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>>4862513
>>4862588
>>4862628
The main issue was that she never tipped her hand and Irlean is extremely secretive. The fact that she was coming on so strong, especially under the circumstances with Kingsland at the time was suspicious. It was a matter of both her and her nation being an enigma, while she did little to show any clear motivation behind her actions other than amusement and politics.

>>4863518
Christ, you're really something, aren't you?
>>4864276
Midlan is not Ynnedrean.
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>>4864758
>Confessing love at this point would be completely fucking insensitive and you anons better not put that through.

You make a fair point, and we are probably being retarded here as with the fair majority of our other decisions. I'm just tired of the waffling though.

And going against our word? I don't quite remember what you're inferring there.

>>4864760
Unfortunately that seems to be the name of the game when dealing with Irlean. I would have much preferred them to be atleast somewhat transparent to calm down some of our paranoia, but I guess we'll have to take our Feywood dealings on a bit of faith.

>Midlan is not Ynnedrean.

I meant Misgan, my bad.
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>>4864760
What can I say, I am a sucker for romaticism. I honestly think it could work, lmao, and give us a chance of reconciliation.

Instead of confessing our love for her, we can just simply extend an invitation for her to come into our land. If she comes, we know she is interested in at the very least being near us. If she doesn't we can just cross her off the waifu list.

Like, I just want for Garlend to eat some humble pie and find some more determination. Managing to unite in Ynerred in at least making sure the forest stops going mad could be a cool thing, second only to getting us a summer palace in the middle of the Fjord, with the accompanying land.

>>4864758
Anon here said it better. I don't think we are going against our word though.

Hard no to outright confessing if you are reading this QM.
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>>4864758
>>4864760
People fight, and sometimes you have to push and get through something to accomplish or save a relationship- especially in a fictional setting over a realistic one.

QM even mentioned in the discord that he wanted to see people push and stop worrying about stepping over everyone's feelings to have a little romance because that's how you achieve things, not by being afraid of stepping on toes or afraid of rejection.

If we go out on a limb and embarass ourselves or truly hurt her feelings, then we can apologize, leave her alone, and move on- but playing it safe at the last minute when we're at the climax dealing with our issues is stupid.

If you stop thinking of this in real world terms and think of it like a movie or a book, since this is a fictional piece, there is an arc like this to every romance story. I literally do not care if we choose Illiandra or one of the other girls at this point, I'm just going to vote positive on every potential romance option til it ends- but if you all carry this type of mindset then Garlend is going to end up either alone or with background wife at age 40.
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You hate to admit it, and never thought it would be so, but you are starting to have very strong feelings towards this women. At first you just assumed it was lust, and much of it was. Yet as the two of you separate, your mind still lingers on her. Not just on her thin waist and round hips, but on her personality too. Her jokes, her mannerisms, her expressions. If that's not more than just shallow infatuation what is it? Yet despite all that, now is not the time for romance and confessions. It is a time for apologizing and making amends. Besides, you still need to sort out how exactly you feel, no need to go all in half drawn.


What can you do but keep apologizing? Nothing. So apologizing is what you do. Regardless of how you feel or what you may think, you decide trying to explain your reasoning, giving excuses, and going on the offensive isn't the play here. For now, you are wrong and she is right. So after about another ten minutes of apologizing for seemingly everything under the sun, receiving a few more slaps across the face, and the dodging of one potted plant, Iliandra seems to calm down somewhat. Perhaps enough for you to get a word in edgewise.

Garlend: “Iliandra, it was never my intent to ever bring harm to even a single strand of hair on your head. The cards simply fell that way, If I could go back in time I would. Tell me what I must do to prove my sincerity?”

Iliandra: “Forgive you? Never! I will never forgive a rogue such as yourself.”

Garlend: “There must be something I can do, never have I felt so powerless.”

Iliandra: “If you truly wish forgiveness, then take me in your arms fool!”

Despite her invitation, taking hold of her would be unchivalrous and quite rude to your host. Yet despite that, you must do what you must do. If this is what it takes to regain what you have lost between Iliandra and yourself, then you will make the grand sacrifice of taking hold of her elegant frame once again. With apologies to Hedrick, you reach out to take the woman into your arms. Yet before you get the chance...
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Iliandra: “Do NOT touch me villain, you think yourself in the rights to do so? How highly you think yourself scoundrel Baron!”

Garlend: “It's what you ASKED”

Iliandra: “You think I am in so much need of you, that the request was genuine? You are truly a fool. A performer! A jester!”

Garlend: “As I have told you, I am a fool! A fool for you! What song and what dance must I perform for you? Shall I stand on my hands next? I make a jester of myself freely for your amusement! Is that not proof of my sincerity? What other Baron’s would do the same for you?”

Iliandra: “You think no others desire my company then? That only you would do this for me?”

Garlend: “Do not twist my words woman. You know well what I mean.”

You get down on one knee as if you were paying respect to the empty throne of Ynedrred, or to the Nameless Silver Sword.

Garlend: “Forgive me Iliandra, forgive me and allow me back into your graces. A life without your confidence and friendship, is not a life worth living for any man. Name the price for entry back into your heart and I shall pay it.”

Iliandra: “...”

It’s a long silence.

Iliandra: “I don’t know. You have wounded me Ser Garlend. Never have I been so struck. I do not know what can be done to fix my disposition, so I shall have to leave that in your hands.”

Garlend: I shall endeavour to make good use of the opportunity”

Iliandra: “For the sake of my heart, I hope that you are up to the task. For I fear that it shall forevermore remain in pieces.”
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>You ask Araksji about her opinion on Elves, and specifically Lesale. You ask if any Elf has stayed in Irlean for any extended length of time.

Araksji: “Elves are greedy little vermin. They act dignified and aloof but they desire the knowledge of the giants like a dwarf dreams of gems. I have not suffered any elf to pass into my realm and I never shall. Has the elf asked you to be his little puppet and dance your way into my place of power to spy on me? Or perhaps he knew he didn't need to.”

Garlend: “I am no one's puppet my lady.”

Araksji: “Then take better care to watch for strings.”

>You ask Araksji about what she knows of spy masters.

Araksji: “What do you subtly accuse of my lord Baron? Spycraft and misdirection are not Irlean’s game of course. We, of course, know little of subterfuge and practice even less”

The lady will not tip her hand for you, it seems that Irleans official position is that no spy work is being conducted. She will not not help you, or cannot, without giving anything away. That is, if she isn't telling the truth. It's so hard to tell these days.

>You ask Araksji about what she thinks of your growing ties with Midlan, and what can be done to preemptively secure her support should the other Barons try to shut you down through political means.

Araksji: “Midlan gold is what has put our Baronies in such a precarious position in the first place no? I'm afraid that I cannot make any promises at this time, not until the reparations treaty between us is officially signed. Yet I must admit that Irlean does not need any more enemies, we will most likely vote with the majority on this matter or possibly abstain.”
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Somehow, you managed to complete your trip in Irlean without dying. Not only did you not die, you didn't even get wounded. Perhaps your fears that Irlean was just more of the Feywood with little separation was unfounded. You definitely got a chance to put a human face on Irlean and that makes them less mysterious and ominous. Yet there are still many questions that were left unanswered.

When you meet your troops and Lancolt at the boarder you are happy to report that peace talks were a success. Irlean was just as eager to rebuild the status quo as you were. Lancelot promises to relay your success to Uther, and wishes you a fair journey before he departs. He hopes to see you next year for the grand tournament, so you can better meet his sister and the two of you can have that rematch.

With Irlean behind you, the only Barony left to visit is Torlumbia. Yet one problem remains, you have spent so much time already that you may not be able to make Helena’s wedding. The only way for you to make it in time now, is to cut your trip short and only stay in Torlumbia for one day. However, even though this is a diplomatic trip, the real reason you are out here is to interview potential wives. Torlumbia holds two twins, it would be a shame to not have a chance to meet them on a more personal level. Also, what other adventures and people does Torlumbia hold? You may never know if you skip over it so you can make a wedding.

>What do?
- Spend a week in Torlumbia. Sorry Helena, but you need to think of your future too...
- Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.
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You may vote on the decisions above and also make some decisions of your own, share ideas you have to your advisors, send them on missions, etc.

Decisions that get no votes, OR are tied, will be resolved by your advisors.

>>4865331
>QM even mentioned in the discord that he wanted to see people push and stop worrying about stepping over everyone's feelings to have a little romance because that's how you achieve things, not by being afraid of stepping on toes or afraid of rejection.

That was just general life /romance advice, I was not telling anyone how to play the quest.
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>>4865618
>Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.

Once again I find myself putting duty before twins, but we did give her our word we'd do our best to make it.

>>4865623
Fair enough
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>>4865631
>but we did give her our word
No you didnt, you said you would do your best but made no promises.
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>>4865618
- Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.
We gave our word we'd do our best to make it.
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>>4865618
>- Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.

Twins will have to wait. We can see hello, see if they're hot and our type,and if people want to waifu them we can extend our stay or ask them if they wish to travel to the wedding together (should they be invited, naturally).

>>4865613
I didn't think she was trying to fuck with our head and undermine us before, but I do now. I suppose she may think she's within her rights. I wish we'd seized the initiative and confessed, but it seems Garlend will be ever the practical, conservative man... Until pressure builds, and he is abruptly NOT, as with our previous blowups.

>>4865651
We gave our word that we would try our best. Alas, staying in Torlumbia longer than needed is not really "our best".
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>>4865659
>>4865687
What these guys said, we told her we'd do our best is what I meant.
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>>4865618
>Spend a week in Torlumbia. Sorry Helena, but you need to think of your future too...

TWINS
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>>4865618
>- Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.
Such a tragic decision
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>>4865618
>- Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.
We will come back another time.
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>>4865618
Somebody please remind me, what exactly did we do to Illiandra that she's so struck?

>- Spend a week in Torlumbia. Sorry Helena, but you need to think of your future too...
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>>4865946
You didn't do anything to her directly, you just attacked the Feywood after she thought you were all cool.

Basically, Iliandra visited you from time to time in order to try and dis-way you from attacking the forest and respecting their boundaries. She also tried to educate you about Irlean and the history of the forest. From her point of view, because of the way you conducted yourself in response to her actions, she believed that you trusted her and listened to her council.

Recently, she spent like three months in Haldrin to be your personal nurse. During this time you maintained a "flirty" relationship with her and even did some secret making out. Then she leaves, and you immediately attack the Feywood and burn / uproot great quantities of forest. Iliandra sees this as a big betrayal because you didn't say anything to her. She believes that you lead her only so you can blindside her from your plans. She was humiliated in front of her mother and the Irlean court for completely misreading your intentions.

Mostly, she is upset because she let herself trust you so completely.

DISCLAIMER

This is assuming she actually has feelings for you and that this isn't all for show. The above is only valid if the stuff she is saying is genuine. She could theoretically be playing the long con. Which is true for every single person you meet. There is no reason to assume anything some one says to Garlend is true.
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I guess I should also explain that at the time when Iliandra was in Haldrin, Garlend had no intention to attack the Feywood so he is not at fault for keeping secrets or misleading anyone. It was only after she left did Gustoff show up with his plans to attack the forest as to better secure the mines in Kingsland and you went along with it. Although Iliandra would have no way of knowing that from her perspective on the situation.
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>>4866007
>when a hunting trip in the magical forest derails the entire timeline
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>>4865282
>>4865263
By going against our word, I meant in dereliction of our escort. We had promised Arkansas to stay with Lilith for the duration of our stay
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>>4865623
>Spend a week in Torlumbia. Sorry Helena, but you need to think of your future too...

This tour is important, and Helena gave us a very understanding response when we faced her with the fact that we are going to have to prioritize our own marriage prospects.
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>>4865618
>Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.

Disdain TWINS, engage BEING A GOOD FRIEND

>>4866039
Ah, well. I assume, since Arajski gave us permission, it doesn't really counts as breaking our word with her. We made a request and she accepted it.

About the Helena part, I feel it was more about resignation than anything. And hell, the wedding should give us plenty of chances for local politics.
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>>4866064
I just reread the section, and yeah, it appears that I had misread the contents.
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>>4865623

>Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.
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>>4866014
This is why I wanted to explain the situation as we saw it during our apology and/or confession. Dammit, anons.
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>>4866007
Maybe she should have done a better job of dissuading us then
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>>4865618
>- Nothing can be done about it, I will make this wedding.

>Also, what other adventures and people does Torlumbia hold?

As much as I'd love to spend some time here, we've already wasted a lot in Arvalony for fuck all gain, and I'm be damned if we fucked up with Oswald yet again. It doesn't help that I think the sense of adventure in this quest is dead, at least with Garlend.

>>4865623
Buy a damned gift already. Maybe we can leave Nyeuu at Torlumbia to have some fun in our stead.

>>4866007
>This is assuming she actually has feelings for you and that this isn't all for show. The above is only valid if the stuff she is saying is genuine. She could theoretically be playing the long con. Which is true for every single person you meet. There is no reason to assume anything some one says to Garlend is true.

Don't feed the paranoia. I don't wanna play as some sort of fantasy Stalin-lite.
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>>4866947
>It doesn't help that I think the sense of adventure in this quest is dead, at least with Garlend.
>Don't feed the paranoia. I don't wanna play as some sort of fantasy Stalin-lite.

While I am down to take some risks, especially for goth GF romance or personal glory, this isn't an adventure. This is a quest of responsibility, politics, and courtly drama.

It makes sense to be calculating. it makes sense to be cautious. it makes sense to weigh possible rewards against risks to ourselves, our family, our treasury, and our reputation.
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>>4867015
This is also a fantasy quest, but I imagine adventuring and exploring is out of the question eh?

Also, if you wanted to focus on our treasury, you should've voted for Leon mate.
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>>4867036
First off, I didn't vote for Garlend.

Secondly, what competent military leader, let alone absolute ruler, neglects the treasury which fuels his army's food and equipment needs, and provides for their families at home?
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>>4867049
None, but we chose a knight-commander for a reason lad. It makes no sense for us to focus on our finances with little regard for other realpolitik considerations. We went to war against a neighboring barony for foreign gold. How that gonna look to the rest of the kingdom? We are walking on thin ice diplomatically, and for what? To fill our coffers with Midlan gold? If this was Leon I wouldn't bat an eye, but as a proud sword baron of the Silver Circle? Weird play lads.
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>>4867058
We went to war with an ENCHANTED WOODLAND that crippled us and was threatening our ally, as well as the prosperity of our people. Not exactly an odd thing for a knightly lord with a powerful military in a fantasy setting to do. if you disagree with the choices made, that's fine, but they're not illogical or out-of-character.
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>>4867100
The most out of character choice we made was when Garlend didn't charge with his men. It was so out of character the QM even made a prompt over it.

Also, don't conflate our tariff gold with the prosperity of our people. We're made them less secure against whatever horrors that lay in the Feywoods, and less security isn't a road to prosperity.

Disagree is an understatement. The fact is that I'm incredibly unsatisfied with the choices anons have made in regards to Garlend's character. No attempts made to fix our crippled nature, the lack of adventurous actions to our name, the focus on wealth over reputation. Like fuck, no one even brings up our personal quest to preform epic feat worthy of renown. It's extremely frustrating.
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>>4867137
I don't agree with every choice made in the quest either, but that's why it's a quest and not you, alone, playing on AI Dungeon II. All one can do is vote for the choices they would like, roll with the punches when they lose a pivotal vote and adapt their perception of characters and events to take into account what has happened, and leave if they don't enjoy it anymore.

It may do you good to consider that Garlend is no longer the ideal version of him you had in mind when he was first voted for. if that, and the general trend in voting, makes you not want to play... There are other quests. It does nobody any good to just wallow in the 'lack of adventure' and 'out-of-character choices'.
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>>4867137
One other thing worth noting is while I have been trying to play Garlend how I think he would act, I joined in thread 2 after the character was voted on, and I'm sure there are other anons in the same vote that didn't necessarily pick Garlend, just like I'm sure anons who did vote him may have dropped along the way- so that's not exactly an airtight argument for doing non-military things
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>>4867196
It's almost like your not taking my critiques seriously lad. It was never about an idealized version of Garlend (though I think we can agree that being uncrippled would be nice), but the general ethos of the quest. I could understand some of the choices and rational that anons have, but the lack of self-awareness is baffling at times. The focus on gold to the point that we'd surprised attacked a neutral neighbor I could deal with, but saying it's for the good of our people is asinine. Becoming crippled with no chance of healing I can deal with, but anons throwing chances at healing away and saying weakness is somehow a virtue is silly at best and deeply irresponsible at worst. You can argue that adventuring is more of an ascetic choice, but I consider it more apart of a knight's character and it's one of the reasons why I got invested in the Feywood adventurer's story in the beginning.

If you think my perception is invalid, then maybe you're right in the fact that I should leave this quest. It's been a frustration experience, trying to advocate for a side no one wants to listen to. If anons want to play like Leon when Garlend was chosen, then I guess playing with y'all was just a waste of my time then.

>>4867209
When I first got into this quest, I was invested in what the future would bring, and what wonders this world may hold. This is the fallout of that investment collapsing in on itself. This was never about creating an airtight argument lad, merely one anon coming to the realization that he wasted his time.
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>>4867642

>It's almost like your not taking my critiques seriously lad.

nah, because you keep framing them in deliberately biased ways that don't actually acknowledge the reasons that I or others vote the way we do, instead just saying "seems like you want to play Leon and chase gold for its own sake", even when anons here are demonstrably voting the way we do out of things like

>paranoia about the Feywood and anyone related to it
>skepticism of otehrs' motives
>A desire to protect U.Reichland's autonomy
>A desire to guard our reputation
>martial and dynastic pargmatism

Sure, some folks are just chasing gold, but when you dismiss or ignore all the other reasons people explicitly put forth, you sort of lose the right to complain that nobody is taking YOU seriously or at face value.

I'm still enjoying myself just fine playing a defensive, conservative knight past his prime, overburdened with responsibility and seeking companionship and stalwart allies in a hostile world, still dreaming to one day achieve a single act of great, redemptive glory. But it's not for everyone, I understand.

>then I guess playing with y'all was just a waste of my time then.

Yeah, probably.
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>>4868140
And you are an unbiased party? And it's funny shit thinking that people lose the right to complain if others don't take their complaints at face value. That's some real bullshit your putting forth lad.

But hey, if you want to continue playing a crippled, paranoid knight, afraid his neighbors are out to get him, willing to be a hatchet man for foreign powers for gold, lying about his health and not willing to risk anything to achieve his personal quest, then sure, you have the freedom to play. Just don't lie about what you're playing as lad.
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>>4868248
I never said I was unbiased, but rather that you have deliberately misconstrued and.misrepresented the decisions made and the reasons for making them to cast them in a poor light, mostly because you are disillusioned and bitter and want us all to feel bad for not playing this your way.

Won't work. I do hope you find your hotblooded adventurer quest, though!
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>>4868504
Then why bring up bias, unless you wanted to dismiss my thoughts as unreasonable. Even now you seek to discredit me, claiming the I deliberately misrepresented facts instead of assuming these are my fair and honest thoughts on the matter, calling me bitter and disillusioned instead of lending credence to my claims.

It's amusing really, that instead of attacking my words and thoughts you prefer to attack the man himself, slandering him in hope of disproving his ideas. That means you agree with the ideas, but dispute it's framing. If you seek to shroud yourself in illusion, then I'll oblige, but don't make the mistake dismissing my thoughts as mere attacks instead of honest criticism.

Your 'poor light' comment reminded me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqjCnmV629o
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Then why bring up bias, unless you wanted to dismiss my thoughts as unreasonable. Even now you seek to discredit me, claiming that I deliberately misrepresented facts instead of assuming these are my fair and honest thoughts on the matter, calling me bitter and disillusioned instead of lending credence to my claims.

It's amusing really, that instead of attacking my words and thoughts you prefer to attack the man himself, slandering him in hope of disproving his ideas. That means you agree with the ideas, but dispute it's framing. If you seek to shroud yourself in illusion, then I'll oblige, but don't make the mistake of dismissing my thoughts as mere attacks instead of honest criticism.

Your 'poor light' comment reminded me of this.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xqjCnmV629o
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Torlumbia is, as you remember it, flat. So much so, that you feel as if you can see all the way to the ocean. As you travel through the Barony on your way to the chateau, you pass many villages that are too small to be on a map. Truly the farmsteads here reach all the way to the horizon. Currently it is still planting season, so you try to imagine what it will look like when the crops have reached their full height. Perhaps one would need a boat to sail through the sea of wheat.

You try to piece together memory scraps from the last time you were here. Yet there are very few memories to find since the landscape here is just so unremarkable. The beauty of Torlumbia is not to be found above the ground, but below it. The soil here is rich, anything you plant in the ground will grow. Nyeuu does his best to inform you on the political and economic situation of Torlumbia, but you already know it. The Baron here is a knight of the silver order, yet he is considerably aged. It is now his children that do the ruling, and the Baron is seldom heard or seen. A fine job his children do, since Torlumbia wheat and corn can be bought in every corner of the kingdom. What really knocks your brain around is Torlumbia’s total lack of a standing ground army. Sure they have their local militia’s, guards, and tactical units, but should anyone come here in force; they would roll right through. Torlumia relies completely on military intervention from Kingsland and Arvalony should anyone try to invade.
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The one thing you do remember well, is the Chateau de tranquillite. Yet even still, when you arrive at the famous palace it's impossible not to be taken back by the grandness of it. This Chateau is the last true monument to the splendour of old Ynedrred. Every square inch of the wall and gate was engraved and carved by master artisans of old. Beyond the gate, sit five massive buildings, each a marvel of architecture in their own right. These halls once housed the King, his entire noble court, their extended families, servants, guests, and their horses too. “A ballroom for every man, and a fresh painting for every gaze” was an old joke among the nobility. Once you get past all of that, you reach the once world famous imperial gardens and hedge mazes, which even now would take an army of gardeners to maintain. In the centre of it all sits the lake of tranquilitie. Yet once the awe wears out, one can begin to notice that paradise is fleeting. The walls are cracked and many of the statues that once encircled the palace have been stolen. Only one of the five buildings is being maintained, and much of the old garden is overgrown. Even without a standing army to siphon wealth from Torlumbia, maintaining such a decadent castle is currently impossible. Only the wealth of the blue mountain could even hope to return this once opulent shrine to its former glory.

The first person you meet once you arrive is Lana. She takes you on a small tour around the castle and shows you where you will be staying, and where your troops can be housed. Yet the full extent of what she has planned is cut short when you explain that you only have a single day to spend here. You tell her about the wedding, but she already knows and understands. After that your meeting with her siblings is expedited and you are escorted to the garden. Where after about thirty minutes of horse riding you arrive at a small clearing where her sister, Rin, and brother Dhise are sitting under some umbrellas while being waited on by a dozen servants.

Rin, being Lana’s identical twin sister, looks almost exactly like her sister. Even though they share the same features, there are some differences., Lana is much better physically built than Rin due to all her physical training. She quite literally wears the pants in the relationship, while Rin dresses like one would expect of a court lady. Their brother, Dhise, looks like a man who has lived his entire life in a place called “castle of tranquility”. He is a far cry from the young man you remember that shared your interests in swordplay and tactics. He wafts away the heat of the day with a fan, and his skin looks as if it has never seen the sun.

Dhise: “Garlend of Upper Reichland, welcome to my home. I hope my sister has been hospitable. I hope she hasn't rushed you around, I believe we were scheduled to see you for dinner.”
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Lana: “I’m afraid the Baron’s time table has been moved up.”

Rin: “I told you that he would wish to catch the wedding. That's why I already bought everything out here.” Rin gestures to a stack of books and scrolls. “The Baron is right on time”

>What discuss (What would you like to talk about with the ruling family of Torlumbia?)
- Write ins
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While you were riding with Lana, you can’t help but spot a familiar shape down some ways in the garden. You recognize that titanic silhouette of a woman anywhere, it's the amazon Fraydis! She seems to be running with a pack of dogs after a rabbit. Or to better put it, she is trying to catch a rabbit in her bare hands while the dogs try to keep up with her and the rabbit.

Garlend: “Is that the Amazon? What is she doing here?”

Lana: “Ah, yes. She has been here for almost a month now as a guest.” Lana stops her horse so that she can better admire the Amazon. “She is splendid is she not? I feel gifted to be in the wake of her passing”

For Lana, the amazon probably represents the height of martial art that she wishes she could achieve herself.

Lana: “I should thank you for the part you played in saving her life Garlend.”

An embarrassing memory, you had agreed to let Herold do something quite underhanded in order to save the Amazon. It's not a conversation topic you wish to linger on.

Garlend: “Yes, well, think nothing of it”

Lana: “What did you say to Harold anyway? To get him to allow you to intervene?”

Garlend: “It's complicated”

Lana: “I don’t understand. What's complicated about it? The stories I have heard are conflicting, maybe you can explain how it all went down? You personally confronted Krom, is that correct?”

Lana is now looking right at you.

You are not sure how to answer, as you are unsure about how much Lana already knows and how much the Amazon told her. You don’t even know how much the Amazon remembers. There is no way you can tell Lana that you let Harold assassinate Krom in order to save the Amazon, while you sat on the sidelines and watched. That would ultimately make you party to murder, and as a knight your reputation can be quickly tarnished for such a crime. You would much rather not answer at all. Yet, should you shut her down, the inkling of curiosity Lana may have could blossom into a full blown investigation. It would be too suspicious to say nothing.

>what do?
-(Lie) ”Yes, I defeated Krom in personal combat. Harold allowed me to intervene because of what I had done for him in the Feywood.”
-(Cover up) “I'm sorry Lana, but I do not wish to speak on it. Do not ask me again.”
-(Truth) “Harold wouldn't let me intervene, so I agreed to him assassinating Krom in order to save the Amazon.”
- Write in
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There is enough time in Torlumbia to have a small visit with [ONE] person of interest. Who do you wish to interact with?
- Lana (The Tomboy)
- Freydis (The Amazon)
- Rin (The Lady)
- Dhise (The Future Baron)
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You may vote on the decisions above and also make some decisions of your own, share ideas you have to your advisors, send them on missions, etc.

Decisions that get no votes, OR are tied, will be resolved by your advisors.
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>>4868770
>Write ins

- A quick, casual catchup since last we were here, particularly see what Rin and Dhise do nowadays
- Ask Rin about the books and scrolls- is there anything of worth?
- Perhaps see if there's any legends about rumored locations of the Blue Mountain or pieces of Old Yneddred that we could maybe explore next time we're freed up
- See if Rin/Lana are seeing anyone or have thought about marriage

If we don't have time for all of that, then I'm cool with any of those topics, whichever anons or QM prefer

>>4868771
>(Lie) ”Yes, I defeated Krom in personal combat. Harold allowed me to intervene because of what I had done for him in the Feywood.”

This feels super shitty, especially knowing who Garlend is, but the other two options could end badly for us- especially covering up. If someone has a clever write-in I wouldn't mind opting for that instead

>>4868772
>Lana (The Tomboy)
Apologize for our behavior back in Kingsland, maybe spend some time getting to know her or trying to spar again- especially now that she knows our secret. If things go well, then we should invite her to winter with us

>>4868775
Give Nyeuu some free reign to talk to/do whatever he wants, whether it's relax or go dig for some religious/advisor related info. This place seems pretty chill and these guys know us from childhood, so we probably can afford to split up and leave him to do what he thinks best.
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>>4868771
TRUTH - Garlend was right to assassinate Krom's bitch ass and will not hide his just actions

>>4868771
>- Rin (The Lady)
since it's a waifu tour
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>>4868771
>(Apologize) I reacted poorly when you found out about my condition. It was not becoming for a knight of the Circle, let alone a baron. I've shamed myself, and I hope to make amends not only to a fair lady, but a fine warrior as well.

I have no opinion on the official story we share, because they it essentially boils down to picking our poison. We'll be shamed regardless of the choice we make. I just wish to make amends before the die is cast.

>>4868775
Buy our gift, and give Nyeuu a day off. In fact, he should stay awhile and enjoy the sights before coming home. We can handle ourselves from here.
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>>4868771
-(Cover up) “I'm sorry Lana, but I do not wish to speak on it. Do not ask me again.”

>>4868772
- Freydis (The Amazon)
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>>4868885
>>4868770
- Write ins
Am I able to meet with the current Baron to pay my respects as a fellow Knight of the Silver Circle before I leave?
Missed one
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>>4868771
Just thinking more on this, I can't believe we've been foolish enough to think that we could've been a good role model to Sigfried. It's like a bad joke now, with all we've done since then.

>>4868775
Can we also buy a gift for Lilith? I want to avoid as much of her ire as can be achieved.
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>>4868770
>Talk about their military situation (pity that we're too far away to help)
>Talk about their experiences with the Feywood and Irlean.

>>4868771
>-(Lie) ”Yes, I defeated Krom in personal combat. Harold allowed me to intervene because of what I had done for him in the Feywood.”
>"There was no glory in it. Krom and his remaining men were barely alive after their fight with the amazon. I don't want to talk about it."

>>4868772
>- Rin (The Lady)
This is a marriage tour.
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>>4869189
>"There was no glory in it. Krom and his remaining men were barely alive after their fight with the amazon. I don't want to talk about it."
>Cripples fighting cripples. Nothing to sing home about.

>Talk about their military situation (pity that we're too far away to help)

What's there to talk about? Two military allies on the border, and no natural enemies to face? Easy living for them.
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>>4868775
>>"There was no glory in it. Krom and his remaining men were barely alive after their fight with the amazon. I don't want to talk about it."
>>Cripples fighting cripples. Nothing to sing home about.

I feel this aboslutely the right answer. It is technically true, so we are not lying to her and signals that we really don't fucking wanna talk to her, damn it. With some luck, politeness rules will make her back off.

>Dhise (The Future Baron)
I understand this is a marriage tour and we need waifus, BUT, we also have a relationship already with him and I we need someone to fucking advice us in the spymaster problem.

I guess we could also talk to Rin about it, but I am really meh on the subject.

>Issues to talk
-Midlan stuff. Try to sell them on the idea.
-Military situation
-We know they have Midgan (the corrupt merchant barony) troubles. Could they ellaborate about them and Midgan in general?

I really really want to hear about this last stuff. They might want to fuck us over at the Baron meeting.
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>>4869434
>I really really want to hear about this last stuff. They might want to fuck us over at the Baron meeting.

They might. The Misgan traders may also stand to gain a lot from opening Midlan trade. Funnily enough, they may be one of our supporters in this venture, despite the political trouble we stepped into. It's an interesting thought to say the least.
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>>4869448
We could send Nyeuu to Misgan, get the lay of the land so to speak, potentially smooth over the wrinkles that have developed. I'm sure they'll come around if there's profit to be made. I would like Nyeuu to take a break at Torlumbia before and after such a visit to Misgan, if possible. Our priest deserves it, really.
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>>4868770
>What discuss (What is life like out here? Are they ever afraid or worried about their lack of standing armies? How would they feel about supporting? Ask about all the cool books. Are Rin or Lana available? Learn about local legends and myths about the land. Dhise looks as soft as they come and we're cripple, some old bastard is rolling in their grave somewhere and we should joke about it to reconnect with our boy. Midlan stuff. Military stuff. Have them elaborate on Midgan stuff. Apologize to Lana for being an asshole.)

>>4868771
>Write in (Downplay) "There was no glory in it. Krom and his remaining men were barely alive after their fight with the amazon. I don't want to talk about it."

>>4868772
>Dhise (The Future Baron)
As far as I'm concerned, Illiandra is the wife goal.
I'm tired of shopping around, and we haven't even really started.
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>>4868771
>>4869575
You know what...fuck it.
>(Truth) “Harold wouldn't let me intervene, so I agreed to him assassinating Krom in order to save the Amazon.”
Lana is a good sort and seems to have huge respect for the Amazon.
Hopefully she'll recognize the weight of the sin we've committed to keep the giant woman alive and will keep her mouth shut.
Whether she respects us or not for the choice we made is another question, but she'll at least be thankful we took action where she couldn't.
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>>4868771
Downplay it, be vague. "No glory in it, for as you know... I am no longer the swordsman I once was."

She knows we're crippled after all. Also: apologize to Lana for how we related to her after our duel. She is owed that. Good way to change the subject, too.

>>4868775
I also support going shopping with Nyeuu to get a gift, and then letting Ngeuu have a day off and remain here for a time.
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>>4868775
> (Partial-truth, mostly lies) I confronted Krom with a personally selected squad of men, but did not duel him in one on one combat, we took him by surprise, by crossbow and stealth, it was not an honourable thing but in order to repay my life debt to Fraydis I treated him with the same respect he gave the Amazon, none.

>Lana (The Tomboy)

We have to apologize.

>Buy a 2 coin gift for the wedding.

I'll support everyone else's write-ins for the discussion, nothing is coming to me right now.
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>>4869754
I would rather just spend one coin. 2 coins is too much for a gift and we are not swimming in cash, especially after the Irelan deal.

For suggestions:
>Rare books for Helena
>Something hunt related for Fienvikktor. He already has a bow. Perhaps some cool hunting spear or some rare horses or dogs to breed?
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>>4869791
Fair enough, I'm sure there will be a vote for it anyways, I'll switch when the options come up.
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>>4868770
>What discuss (What is life like out here? Are they ever afraid or worried about their lack of standing armies? How would they feel about supporting? Ask about all the cool books. Are Rin or Lana available? Learn about local legends and myths about the land. Dhise looks as soft as they come and we're cripple, some old bastard is rolling in their grave somewhere and we should joke about it to reconnect with our boy. Midlan stuff. Military stuff. Have them elaborate on Midgan stuff. Apologize to Lana for being an asshole.)
>Also ask if any of them know of something that would be amusing to an elf.
>>4868771
"There was no glory in it. Krom and his remaining men were barely alive after their fight with the amazon. I don't want to talk about it."
>>4868772
>Rin (The Lady)
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>>4869791
You FOOL, you absolute CLOWN. We already voted for the MyStErY bOx gift for TWO coins. Destiny has already been written.
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>>4869791
Two coins. We're making amends for the trouble we've caused Oswald as well as gaining favor with Fienvikktor. If we're going to be money focused I rather we actually use it than horde it. Plus, mystery box.