Spawned for seemingly no reason and hidden beneath the cobblestones of the city above -- here sits a little dungeon.A timid, lonely, little dungeon with barely any monsters or traps to defend themselves. Located underneath an abandoned orphanage in the city of Duskmire.Unfortunately, the wicked whims of fate decided to reveal the dungeon's presence to the people of the city above and burdened it with visitors before it was well and ready to stand against the perils of the world.And thus their struggle began. A tale of rapid expansion, fierce battles, and horrible corruption.From a single chamber and one measly [Goblin] to an impressive amount of rooms filled with loyal subjects.You are the Little Dungeon.The Dungeon is currently 9 days oldPrevious thread>>5174317Archivehttps://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive.html?searchall=The+Little+Dungeon+That+Could[b[Monstershttps://i.imgur.com/1JGiYjq.jpgRoomshttps://i.imgur.com/iWBBd6D.jpgRuleshttps://i.imgur.com/dJQ3FRV.jpgCurrent DungeonPic relatedBuildable Rooms- Marshland (Trap, DC 5 Strength, 3 DP)- Pit Room (Trap, DC 5 Wisdom, 3 DP)- Jungle Room (Trap, DC5 Constitution, 3 DP)- Branding Chamber (Utility, 5 DP)- Room of Bewilderment (Puzzle, DC15 Intelligence, 5 DP)- Boss Room (Utility, 5 DP)Spawn-able Monsters- Goblin (Spawned, DC 8 Strength, 1 MP)- Bugbear (Spawned, 1st: DC 14 Wis / DC 12 Str, 3 MP)- Goblin Brute (Corruption, DC 12 Strength / DC14 after kill, 1 MP)- Goblin Savant (Corruption, DC 12 Intelligence, 3 MP)I had to install a special plugin to screenshot the boss monster's stats for the monster sheet as it was too long - edition
Repeat from last threadGrez pulled the large jacket around herself, feeling the lingering warmth of Viktor.She felt like screaming. To beg them to get out. To apologize.But she also felt the unrelenting passage of time as the seconds ticked away one by one.In two days time, she would be dead or wishing she was.Her mouth dropped open, words frozen on her tongue.The sailors weren’t looking, attention firm on the dungeon before them.”We’ll have a quick look,” said Viktor, “Get some general information about the place and get back out. Afterwards, we’ll report its location to the local mercenary station or similar and get ourselves a fat finders fee.”“A good plan,” said Fenton, “The discovery of a prime location like this should net us more than enough to take it easy for a good while.”He looked over his shoulder then, spotting the fear in her, “And get your leg fixed.”Eyes wide, Grez nodded slowly.“Viktor,” said Fenton mockingly, “Look, she fears for us.”“Eyes forward, Fenton,” growled Viktor, he extended a hand towards Fenton – who filled it with a sword.Fenton then drew his own, “Don’t worry, we’ll be back soon.”And then, in a moment that was everything Grez needed, but nothing she ever wanted to see – they crossed the threshold.[Two hostile creatures have entered the dungeon]End repeat from last thread
>>5219729Lets hipe that they are not Level 10 Legends with how rough their lifestyle was up till now. And lets hipe that the poisons will even register to their Seamen physique
>>5219743And lets hope that I can actually learn to write
Name: Viktor SutherlandType: Humanoid (Human)Level: 2Health: 2Strength: +4Dexterity: +0Constitution: +3Wisdom: +1Intelligence: +0Charisma: +0Once bitten, Twice Shy SkillViktor has advantage on saving throws made to overcome, avoid, or suppress poison and venom. >>5219743I had arrived at the same conclusion in regards to poison.
Quick question:Do you have a spreadsheet or something that has all the room/monster/dungeon corruptions on it, or are you making up everything by the seat of your pants?
Name: Fenton SutherlandType: Humanoid (Human)Level: 1Health: 1Strength: +1Dexterity: +3Constitution: +1Wisdom: +1Intelligence: +1Charisma: +4Nimble SkillOnce per invasion, Fenton can gave himself advantage on a saving throw to avoid a melee attack.
>>5219746Granted +4 to Strength Saves is not great but we just sick the mage on him after the Bug Bear suprises him>>5219749Lets hope the Blightbringer will deal with him. But if not. We still have our Chad.... that we really need to name at some point
So my relaxing morning of /qst/ posting did not go according to plan. This is because of something vile called a job. Having to work at your job. Ridiculous, really. Someone should do something. But I should be good to go now.
>>5219748Combination of the above. I have tables for things like corruptions, mutations, and random encounters. And then I have shallow information for other things like monsters. For example I have some general information on slimes and the direct tier slimes, but no information on every slime mutation or corruption. So say we went with a slime and rolled "Shimmerskin (Can go invisible for 1 round. For the duration, every enemy has disadvantage on saves against this creature)" on a random mutation. Then I would basically sit for a moment and think "Slime + Shimmerskin = ???" and probably end up with something like a clear or transparent slime. I'd then give it a name and some description, find some art or adjust existing art in photoshop, and put it in my campaign manager. This is mostly because I have quite a few monster types and 100 mutations, if I had to flesh everything out before hand it would be a waste of time. The overwhelming majority of them would never be picked and end up collecting dust in my campaign manager. For all the known rooms and monsters, check the OP:>>5219726It has links to images with information on all the currently known monsters and rooms.
>>5219806>I have tables for things like corruptions, mutations, and random encounters.Are you willing to share those, or do you not want to spoil anything for the Quest?
[Two hostile creatures have entered the dungeon]The brothers carefully crept into the [Jungle Room].Its toxic inhabitants already skittering their way towards them.The insects pounced, their stingers and fangs pointed forward.--------------------Need DC 8 Constitution saving throw for Fenton Sutherland (+1 Modifier)Need DC 8 Constitution saving throw for Viktor Sutherland (With advantage) (+3 Modifier)Please include the following message:Rolling for TARGET against [Jungle Room]One roll per reply
>>5219815So this is 1d20+Modifier by default. >>5219809>Are you willing to share those, or do you not want to spoil anything for the Quest?I prefer to keep those hidden for the time being.
Rolled 1 + 1 (1d20 + 1)>>5219815Rolling for Fenton Sutherland against [Jungle Room]>>5219806Since we are asking questions, I'll throw in a few of mine.Shouldn't we be able to corrupt bugbears? I assumed we could corrupt any base creature we can recruit, like the goblin.Also, how does using spells with a monster work? Can they cast a spell and attack in the same turn? Can they cast multiple spells? As examples, is a single turn, which of these are possible:>1: Cast [Slow], unable to attack>2: Cast [Slow], attack an invader>3: Cast [Slow] on both invaders, attack.
Rolled 5 + 3 (1d20 + 3)>>5219815Rolling for VIKTOR SUTHERLAND vs [Jungle Room]>>5219817>I prefer to keep those hidden for the time being.That's fair.
>>5219818Wow, the jungle proving itself to be all business once again.>>5219784>that we really need to name at some pointYeah, just "Unnamed" is unfitting. We could just go with Chadakplin, like the file name last thread.
>>5219821>ChadakplinChadaplin, or Chadaklin by themselves would be better.
>>5219818Huh.... well goodbye Fenton. Should have listened to Grez.>>5219819The Beefcake has advantage on the roll but he succeeds anyway.>>5219821>>5219823To be honest i would liek to more split the Name into something like Chad'akplin since every time i try to prono7nce it in my head it just kinda feels awkwsrd in a single piece.Though if we shortened it a bit Chadeklin rolls off the Tounge pretty well i think.>>5219803>WorkWait that is what your supposed to do at a job? Sounds truly terrible.
>>5219828Chadaklin*I hate my fingers for not being able to type longer sentences on phones
>>5219823>>5219829Yeah, Chadaklin works.
>>5219818Fenton fails the saving throw. >>5219819Viktor succeeds the saving throw.
>>5219815It happened quickly. It reminded Grez about how she had lost Manson that first day. She had no doubt Viktor would harbour a similar grudge against the dungeon if he managed to survive. A viper dropped down from a tree, twisted itself around Fenton's neck, and slammed his fang into his exposed chest. Grez wasn't sure what kind of viper it was, but it was one with a fast acting venom. Fenton paled, collapsed, and was absorbed into the dungeon floor."F-fenton," Grez managed to croak. [Hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' takes one (1) point of damage from [Jungle Room].][The health of hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' has reached zero (0).][Hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' has gone unconscious.][Hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' has been defeated.][The dungeon will now absorb hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland'.]Viktor grunted as he squashed some bugs underfoot.He heard the half-orc's lament and looked over. Too late to help, but just in time to see his brother disappear. Situation turning dire, the sailor turned and began to make a dash for the exit. The goblins were already lying in wait. They moved. [Monster [Goblin Raid Leader]'s skill [Scream and Shout] has activated.]------Info> Attack Viktor (+0)> Attack TARGET (+0 target's modifier to the saving throw)End of infoGoblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence 3 Essence remaining> Attack Viktor (+0)> Cast a spell: Arcane Explosion (Cost 3 Essence)> Cast a spell: Slow (Target: Viktor) (Cost 1 Essence)> Do nothingGoblin Raid Leader - DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)> Do nothingGoblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)> Do nothingBugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)> Attack Viktor (+0)> Do nothing
>>5219882Goblin Savant> Cast a spell: Slow (Target: Viktor) (Cost 1 Essence)Bugbear> Attack Viktor (+0)
>>5219882Goblin Savant>Cast a spell: Slow (Target: Viktor) (Cost 1 Essence)Followed by:Bugbear>Attack Viktor (+0)If the Bugbear succeeds the sneak attack it's a one-shot kill. The rest of the Goblins hang back because if the Bugbear fails they have to tank Viktor while the Savant shoots him with Magic.
>>5219882> Cast a spell: Slow (Target: Viktor) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader - DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)Goblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)Bugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)> Attack Viktor (+0)There is literally no reason to have the others not attack him. If they die they will respawn.>>5219885Viktor is fleeing, we don't need to worry about tanking, we need to worry about downing him before he can escape, and the more we attack him with, the more likely that will happen.
>>5219927Only one can attack him at any time anyway. The rest can get in Line to cut of his escape route.
>>5219929No, multiple can attack at the same time, see last time people got into the goblin room, multiple goblins were able to attack one target. Not attacking with everything is letting him escape for free for no benefit. The other option that isn't "Attack" is literally "Do Nothing".
>>5219927>>5219929I was under the impression that only one monster could attack at a time, but looking at the rules it says: >By default a monster can only fight a single monster at a time>Multiple monsters means multiple rolls. Which means they probably can, actually. With that in mind:>>5219883Goblin Raid Leader> Attack Viktor (+4)Goblin Blight Bringer> Attack Viktor (+4)It's been a while, I'm fuzzy on the specifics
>>5219931We've already seen multiple monsters attack a single character
>>5219882Okay changing vote from >>5219895to > Cast a spell: Slow (Target: Viktor) (Cost 1 Essence)Bugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)> Attack Viktor (+0)First the Bugbear then the Rest with Goblin Raid Leader - DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)Goblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)
>>5219932Previous instance of multiple monsters attacking same target: https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/qstarchive/2022/5115656/#p5147558and read down
ResultsGoblin Savant DC14 (12+2) Intelligence>Cast a spell: Slow (Target: Viktor) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)Goblin Blight Bringer DC 14 (12+2) Strength> Attack Viktor (+4)Bugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)> Attack Viktor (+0)-----------------Need multiple saving throws for Viktor SutherlandRol a 1d20 + the modifier listed above under the monster you're rolling against.Please include the following message:Rolling for Viktor Sutherland against MONSTER_NAMEOne roll per reply
Rolled 19 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>5220019>Rolling for Viktor Sutherland against Goblin Savant
>>5220024Ignore the modifier, I'm retardedNot that it matters lol
Rolled 8 (1d20)>>5220019Rolling for Viktor Sutherland against Bugbear>>5220024good thing he didn't need to roll against the savantAlso don't forget to roll twice for each monster because the slow gives him disadvantage
Rolled 18 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>5220027Well, that 8 spells death for Viktor. Good try sailors, but not good enough. Lets get the rest of the rolls done.>>5220019>Rolling for Goblin Blightbringer
>>5220027>good thing he didn't need to roll against the savantIgnore me, I'm giga retardedI though so but then saw the DC next to the Savant's name
>>5220019>Rolling for Viktor Sutherland against Goblin Raid Leader
Rolled 1 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>5220019>Rolling for Viktor Sutherland against Goblin Raid Leader
>>5220026>>5220027>>5220029>>5220040Stop, stop. He's already dead. No need to roll anymore. I'll see if I can write something real quick before I run D&D so people can start voting on what to do with the captives.
Small creatures burst out of the surrounding foliage, Viktor grit his teeth as he turned to run.A set of powerful bounds later, he was near the entrance and left the goblins in the dust.He stared at the entrance and the half-orc beyond it. She seemed to mouth some words, tears rimmed her eyes.Viktor couldn’t understand them. Like an entire sentence spoken in the span of a word. She briefly pointed at something, but then pressed her hands to her face and looked away.Viktor tried turned his head, but was doing so in slow-motion. His eyes caught something on the edge of his vision.A massive maul was being brought down in a large, overhead swing. Wielded by some impossibly huge, furry creature.He saw it coming and urged his muscles to move. To dodge. To do something.Viktor’s mind raced through a thousand motions while his body was struggling to execute even one.The sailor stared as death approached. The maul collided with his face.He felt his facial bones crack and shatter. Darkness followed.[Hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' takes two (2) point of damage from [Bugbear].][The health of hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' has reached zero (0).][Hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' has gone unconscious.][Hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' has been defeated.][The dungeon will now absorb hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland'.]----------Invasion summary: VictoryAll creatures and traps in the dungeon have been bested. Amount of enemies beaten: 2Amount of dungeon points (DP) gained: 5*Amount of monster points (MP) gained: 2Hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' is currently held by the dungeonHostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' is currently held by the dungeon*Average level of enemy group times 3 (Rounded up)----------[Total amount of Monster Points (MP) remaining: 4][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 8][The invasive force has been defeated.][All monsters within the dungeon will now respawn and traps will reset.]----------Fenton Sutherland>1 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Monster Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]**>3 - Release hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' (Triggers [Sadism] trait)>4 - Keep hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' in captivity>5 - Other (Write-in)Viktor Sutherland>1 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 3 [Monster Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**>3 - Release hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' (Triggers [Sadism] trait)>4 - Keep hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' in captivity>5 - Other (Write-in)**1 + LevelSide-note: Just noticed I gave out 3 MP / 3 DP for Rollen who was a level 1 wizard.Should’ve been 2. Oh well.
>>5220109>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]**2 - Consume hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**
>>5220109>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**
>>5220109>Strip them of any money they may posess then>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**
>>5220109>1 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Monster Points]>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]We only need to consume one of the brothers to afford two rooms, in this case Viktor is the most important because he grants more DP than Fenton. With 11 DP we can build the following rooms:[Branding Chamber] + [Puzzle Room], leaving us with one spare DPOR[Branding Chamber] + 2 trap rooms/Spawn roomsPreferably what we'd do is build the [Branding Chamber] and then expand the [Bugbear Den] to it's next tier with the remaining 6DP. This will give us one mutation on the Bugbear we currently own (another mutation if we also leave the base Gobbo in there aswell), and consuming Fenton for Monster Points will let us immediately spawn a Hobgoblin, a drastic increase in Dungeon difficulty.If people prefer the [Branding Chamber] + [Puzzle Room] instead, consuming Fenton for Monster Points are still the preferable choice since with 6MP we can spawn one additional Bugbear to inhabit the [Bugbear Den], while also corrupting the base Gobbo in to a Savant, again drastically increasing the difficulty of the Room compared to just a normal Gobbo and the Scout.
>>5220135My thinking is that with the boss in place, we probably don't need to worry about immediate defense and should be thinking more long term, especially since the puzzle room will help us defend as well. It is better long term to rush more DP to get closer to getting the second level, which gets us more DP income and better rooms and monster spawns.
>>5220147We're honestly not as well protected as you seem to think we are. There's only a single minion outside of the Boss Room that can take more than a single hit, which is the Bugbear, while the others will be taken off the field in one blow if we're unlucky. While we have a buffer of +2 to all DC's taken in the first room, it's hardly a guarantee to counter enemy statlines. Had Viktor succeeded the Wisdom check the only minion that could've hoped to damage him reliably was the Savant. 65% is a nice buffer against failure, especially with the disadvantage from Slow, but it's not a guarantee of success, and it will be harder when we go up against proper parties with more than two unprepared sailors. They will have Magic Items, buffs and debuffs of their own to counteract our shenanigans.A party of four or five invaders above Level 1 would probably have little problem with the first room, even if one or two of them fail the Jungle DC it won't kill them (All Level 2 invaders have had 2 HP thus far, not to mention magic items can increase HP), and their statlines will most likely be closer to that of Fenton with positives across the board making it more difficult for us to land successive hits to actually kill them. If they manage to get through the first room in the Dungeon's current state the Boss is the only obstacle left, and while he has an impressive 6HP his DC isn't that high, only managing a base 14 DEX/STR check (though with 2 damage per successful hit). If the Boss gets debuffed with Slow and the invading party has +1 (maybe even +2) on average to both DEX and STR, we'll be rolling at best with a 65% chance of succes with disadvantage, at worst 55% with disadvantage. Those are not great odds at all and failing to kill a party of five that makes it that far wouldn't be a surprising outcome.The Boss is the final obstacle of the floor, not the main defense, and treating him as such will leave our core dangerously exposed. Best case scenario the Boss doesn't need to fight, as we've either killed all invaders before they reach the Boss room, or bled them dry enough that facing him is not an option for the invaders and they leave instead. Right now we don't have the minions in the field to bleed any large, competent groups before they reach the boss room.
>>5220202A key point you're missing is that now we will probably be getting extra defenses in the puzzle room, which has had a popular appeal to build. We don't know exactly what it will do, but a 15 DC int check that affects the entire party negatively in some way is a very good addition.I also think you're underselling how powerful our boss is. First of all, it's not reasonable to assume any significant number of parties will have access to the Slow spell (which we have only seen on our minions), and that if they did, that many would even have the "mana" left to cast it by the time they reach the boss. Also, if we did identify a caster like they, we could focus it down with our monsters to make the party less able to defeat the boss. Even still, our boss has advantage on its first turn and can potentially charm an enemy to fight for us, perhaps even one of the casters.And on top of this, we are still getting MP from this raid even if we fully invest the consumption into DP, so we are still becoming harder to defeat.
>>5220147>>5220202I think the Puzzle Room will help immensely with the Improvement of our defenses in general.....The extra Savant is a tempting proposition though...... In comparison it would lower our time to get the next level of the dungeon by two extra days and i think going lower sooner will be way more useful than just investing in these lower quality creatures right now.and i believe that we will need the extra Defense a lower Level brings if we want to withstand those corrupt clerics and Paladins coming for us.
>>5220109>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**Between the branding chamber, puzzle room, hobgoblin spawn and the next floor, there is a huge amount of rooms we need to buy. Monster wise, the only ones that are worth the MP right now are another goblin savant and bugbear, which is just 6MP. It's not worth getting MP over DP while we have so many rooms we need, especially since we will get sufficient MP just by winning regardless.Plus with 4 MP, we can already get another bugbear, which will up the difficulty significantly.
>>5220109>1 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Monster Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**
>>5219806>This is mostly because I have quite a few monster types and 100 mutations, if I had to flesh everything out before hand it would be a waste of time.Based wise GM
>>5220109Note: There will be a slight nerf to the "Slow" spell. Like all other offensive / hostile spells, it will have a saving throw involved. This will be a DC 12 Wisdom Saving throw. (In line with the savant's other saving throws). The spell not having a saving throw was an oversight.
>>5220109Here I am wondering why everyone was copy/pasting double: >1 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Monster Points]**While it was me that was at fault. I copy/pasted those lines and forgot to change the name. My bad. Had to write that update in a hurry.
Voting closed>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]**>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland' and gain 3 [Dungeon Points]**>Strip them of any money they may possessI noticed other people making similar comments in the previous thread. I'll start including these I suppose. Might prove handy in some way or another.
>>5220270Ok, then how do you compensate for Haste? Will there be a DC to effectively cast it, or will it just be a better option when available?Also, pretty sure this makes Haste almost unusable, it is a very large nerf.
>>5220299makes *Slow* almost unusable
>>5220284>>Strip them of any money they may possessActually yeah, I mean to write this in, but forgot. They were carrying some supplies, Grez could probably use some of them, if only so she doesn't starve. >>5220270>>5220299It is a big nerf, but to be fair it was very strong. Not necessarily on it's own, but the Raid Leader + Bugbear + Slow combo is really damn strong. DC18 Wisdom check, and failure means loosing 2 health....Though yeah DC12 is a pretty heavy nerf. Makes me wonder if they are worth the 4MP over other units. I guess an advantage the Savant has over other units is it can essentially choose between CON, INT or WIS checks to fuck with invaders. We will just have to see, I suppose.
>>5220299"Slow" is a offensive spell. Just like "Arcane Explosion" and the Savant's default attack have DCs, so should it. It is still affected by DC increases like the [Goblin Raid Leader]'s +2 DC increase to goblinoids or would be increased by +2 if the Savant were to be stationed in a [Boss Room].So with the current room setup you're looking at a DC14 Wisdom saving throw. Maybe find a magical item to push saving throw DC even higher and you're golden. Furthermore, people seem to forget that the savant is a mere goblin. Its DCs are in line with that. >Ok, then how do you compensate for Haste? Will there be a DC to effectively cast it, or will it just be a better option when available?The nature of the spell is different. I initially made "Slow" as the inverse of "Haste". Haste of course doesn't have a DC attached to it as it is a "Complementary / Buff" spell rather than an offensive / debuff spell. Just like how D&D's "Slow" has a saving throw and "Haste" doesn't. Assuming you have 1 "Essence", even if you have four allies, you can only give one ally the "Haste" buff to give him advantage on stuff. But given one enemy, you can use one cast of "Slow" to force disadvantage on everything (effectively giving all your allies advantage). I hope this makes sense. I'm open to discussing this further, but right now being able to cast "Slow" with impunity seems like a problem.
>>5220325>Maybe find a magical item to boost DCAnything like that would probably be better suited to a better caster than just for the use of Slow, but sure.>mere goblinGood point, goblins probably should be weak, though maybe you can then make the argument that maybe it shouldn't cost as much if it's supposed to be weak.>you can use one cast of "Slow" to force disadvantage on everythingSame can be said for one powerful ally of a small/one man party being buffed to force advantage on everything.I just think its use cases is now very limited, because casting Slow even once means we can't cast the AoE, which is very powerful.
>>5220218>but a 15 DC int check that affects the entire party negatively in some way is a very good additionTrue, it is a strong deterent against parties without high INT characters, but against well rounded party it is not as good.Rollen, as a Level 1 Wizard for example, had an INT modifier of +4. He would turn the base chance of 70% for a failure to a even 50/50. But this is a worst case scenario and I could just be doomposting.>First of all, it's not reasonable to assume any significant number of parties will have access to the Slow spellI disagree. Rollen had access to Haste which is a reverse version of Slow, target Ally gains Advantage against all rolls in the current room. It is entirely reasonable to expect that any Wizard will have access to either Slow or Haste as a minimum.>and that if they did, that many would even have the "mana" left to cast it by the time they reach the boss.Depends entirely on the mana pool and on the amount of 'Threat' that exist within the Dungeon. Right now we have only two rooms where the threat level is large enough to warrant spellcasting (in my opinion), the Jungle and the Boss Room. Rollen used up his mana before dying in the last room of the Dungeon, using one Mana per room. If a Level 2 Wizard has a Mana Pool of 3, it is reasonable to assume he would make it to the Boss Room with 1 mana left with the current level of threat if he casts 2 spells in the Jungle and 0 in the Den (I assume 0 casts in the Den because there's just a Base Gobbo and a Scout there, not really a threatening crowd). There could of course also be Magic items that increases the Mana Pool of the wielder or Mana Potions to allow for more spellcasting.If we can increase threat in the Dungeon with more minions (forcing more spellcasts to negate failed checks or to buff/heal a party member), we're more likely to exhaust a Wizards MP before they face the boss.>Also, if we did identify a caster like they, we could focus it down with our monsters to make the party less able to defeat the boss.Not neccessarily something we can do in all invasions going forward. Ben mentioned a skill called [Intercept] during his invasion, we don't know the specifics but it's quite easy to guess. "The User intercepts an attack or skill that targets an Ally", or something like that. Rollen also had [Barrier] to negate failed checks, so a higher level Wizard with a larger mana pool would be able to protect himself more easily. Not to mention Taunt abilities that force a target swap which are bound to show up eventually, which will make it more difficult to snipe squishy backliners.In the end I prefer to look at this from a petspective of 'How can we lose from here?', and the biggest hole right now is how few minions we have stationed in the Den and their low quality. We can at least get a Savant for the AoE with our current MP, but I would've wanted a Bugbear on top of that to solidify the threat in that room. Oh well, next Invasion then maybe
>>5220325I think the nerf is perfectly reasonable, as is the justification that it is just a mere goblin. And it makes sense that offensive spells should have a DC. The monster itself is fine as it is, the only thing that is a little off now is the price. I would not be confident in saying that a Savant is now better then a Bugbear, which is cheaper. Though I guess you could justify it's price with how versatile it is. If nothing else, this nerf makes the Savant less of a no brainer purchase, and the price has to be seriously considered. You could buy two brutes with DC12 Strength for one Savant, which is now a trade off that had to be considered, since the DC's will be the same.But yeah ultimately I think it's fine. Doesn't make it useless or anything, still a very useful monster, just not AS useful. >>5220353>I just think its use cases is now very limited, because casting Slow even once means we can't cast the AoE, which is very powerful.To be fair the AoE was never that strong, it was very much situational. Against a few, strong invaders with high CON, slow would most likely achieve more, by forcing one (or even multiple) enemies to take more damage from allies. Consider the BugBear getting a DC18 if slow lands.Though if you are dealing with a horde of rats, the explosion would be amazing, unlike slow. If nothing else they check different stats, so which spell is used would depend on the invaders.
>>5220411>Consider the BugBear getting a DC18 if slow lands.Where doe sthe extra 2 DC come from? Slow just gives Disadvantage. And the Bugbear Sneak Attack DC is just a DC 14 WIS Save that gets an extra +2 from the Raid LeaderGranted witht he DC it will be alot more in Line with the DND Version of Slow but that is an AOE and would be horribly busted for the first level of our little Dungeon
>>5220411>If nothing else, this nerf makes the Savant less of a no brainer purchaseSomething being a no brainer implies it is so good that the rest pales in comparison. What I'm going for is a scenario where each of the monster options seem like a competitive choice. Where some might be better in certain scenarios. >though maybe you can then make the argument that maybe it shouldn't cost as much if it's supposed to be weakThe price of the savant is based around it AOE ability. Through it, the Savant is basically like a mobile trap room. But unlike a trap room, its DC can increase through external factors like the [Goblin Raid Leader]. Furthermore, I think the price of the Savant simply feels high because of the low amount of invasions. Spellcasters are tricky and I'm not gonna claim I'm doing them justice. There's also things that haven't been revealed that I need to keep into account. I hope you can forgive me for adding a DC to the "Slow" spell and that it doesn't feel like I pulled the rug on anyone too badly.
“A feast!” cried the Sadist in uncommonly cheerful tones. It hummed in pleasure.”There’s even an orchestra supplying soothing tones!” it added.The Scholar side-eyed its fellow ego and then turned towards said ‘orchestra’.Guilt-wrecked and screaming, Grez lay bawling on the cold, cavern floor.“That sweet melody!” cried the Sadist, running its hands down its face.The Scholar winced at the heartless display, “Such senseless cruelty,” it muttered.Sometimes, the behaviour of the Sadist worried it.It couldn’t comprehend how one could revel in the suffering of others.The Scholar decided to focus on its own efforts.”Splat,” it said in an effort to cheer itself up a bit.The sailors were crushed into a fine magic paste that the dungeon readily absorbed.[The Dungeon has consumed hostile creature 'Fenton Sutherland'][The Dungeon has gained two (2) Dungeon Points (DP)][Total amount of Dungeon Points (MP) remaining: 10][The Dungeon has consumed hostile creature 'Viktor Sutherland'][The Dungeon has gained three (3) Dungeon Points (DP)][Total amount of Dungeon Points (MP) remaining: 13]The Scholar smiled to itself, “Now we can finally focus on what really matters.”[Total amount of Monster Points (MP) remaining: 4][Total amount of Dungeon Points (MP) remaining: 13][Entering 'Architect Mode']
Architect ModePlease refer to the OP for an up-to-date list of all the rooms and monsters currently open for purchase.You can also choose to expand existing rooms.[b[Monstershttps://i.imgur.com/1JGiYjq.jpgRoomshttps://i.imgur.com/iWBBd6D.jpgRuleshttps://i.imgur.com/dJQ3FRV.jpgCheck out the “Rules” post in the OP for the dungeon building rules. To clarify: When it says "Threshold" what I mean is "Room size threshold".I will make sure to adjust this in the next OP. ----------------------------STARTING WITH ROOMSTo suggest the construction of a room, please stick to the following format: >ROOM_NAME at PLOT#ExampleJungle Room at 1If your suggestion requires the movement of an existing room, please use the following format. >ROOM_NAME at PLOT#, MOVE EXISTING_ROOM TO PLOT#ExampleJungle Room at 8, Move Bugbear Den to 2+4
>>5220805>I hope you can forgive me for adding a DC to the "Slow" spell and that it doesn't feel like I pulled the rug on anyone too badly.Nah, you've convinced me. It was a bit abrupt with just "oh by the way it was nerfed" but you explained yourself, and your reasoning is solid. I think it's fine. >>5220778Yeah I don't think advantage/disadvantage was ever explained actually, I assumed it made the DC harder. In other words Source: my ass. My bad.But I looked it up in DnD and assuming it's the same, it means the lowest of two dice rolls. That makes it WAY better then I though, Jesus.
>>5220859>Branding Chamber at 12Maybe invaders will go into the room and have to go through the jungle again.>Room of Bewilderment at 9, move Boss Room to 5>Move Core Room to 6I'm really torn between putting the puzzle room at the beginning or the end. On the one hand, if they fail at the beginning, the whole fresh gang suffers from... something, but then they have a better chance of solving it as their wizard is definitely alive.Later on, it will impede them when they might already be missing the brains of the team, but it's effect might be less impactful. Ill put it at the back for now, since Goblin Vietnam will be better to take care of people Grez lures in. Maybe.
>>5220859>Branding Chamber at Plot 12 >Room of Bewilderment at Plot 9, Bosschamber to Plot 10 and Core Room to Plot 11Simply make the Dungeon longer and if anyone tries to get into the Branding Chamber to save someone they will have to brave the Jungle again
>>5220885I would only put the Boss Chamber at 5 if it is confirmed that there wont be a passage between the room and the Bugbear Den so that the Room of Bewilderment can not be bypassed
>>5220888Fair enough>>5220885Changing vote to support>>5220887
>>5220890We should invite Grez afterwards and tell her we can start working on her freedom from the specter of enslavement by the Merchants she owes money to.Then knock her out have healed and put her on the Worktable to rewrite the brand so its bound to us being able to track and command her if we need to.
>>5220892I do really like that one idea that an anon had some time ago to make Grez the boss of one of the later floors.
>>5220893We can try this but we really need to enslave her first and infuse her into ourself. And we also need to make sure her concience wont be in our way in the future.... and have her more indebted to us
>>5220893We did find that book talking about that dragon that had the Dungeon core infused into its Chest maybe something similar but less drastic could be done to Grez. So that we can still let her go outside to trap some easy fools
>>5220887Supporting.>>5220892This.>Also, Ask instinct and Grez about creating item. Can we spawn wealth? Can we absorb her and remake her whole as a reward, with a contract mark indicating she is ours? A good sadist can repair his toys to keep damaging them the longest.
>>5220859Ammending my votr slightly from >>5220887To also include >Also, Ask instinct and Grez about creating item. Can we spawn wealth? Can we absorb her and remake her whole as a reward, with a contract mark indicating she is ours? A good sadist can repair his toys to keep damaging them the longest.>>5220954Completely forgot about that again. Thank you for reminding me
>>5220859>Branding room at 12>Room of Bewilderment at 9 move boss room to 14 and move core room to 15> Marsh room at 1 for the same reason >>5220887 places the branding chamber at 12
>>5220965Discuss if you want to use the last 3 DP on the "Marsh Room" Gonna proceed with what has been voted on for now. Voting closed>Branding Chamber at 12>Room of Bewilderment at Plot 9, >Boss chamber to Plot 10>Core Room to Plot 11Added:- Branding Chamber (5 DP)- Room of Bewilderment (5 DP)Total cost:- 10 DPRemaining:- 4 Monster Points (MP)- 3 Dungeon Points (DP)
>>5220977>Discuss if you want to use the last 3 DP on the "Marsh Room"No.If we are getting something, it's either the next floor, or maybe upgrade the bugbear camp. Personally I think we save up for the floor.
>>5220977>Marsh RoomNo, we want to save up the DP right now
>>5220977>Marsh RoomNope. I want to save for a new floor. I would have written down one if i considered it
>>5220980>>5220982>>5220983Alright. Just wanted to make sure everyone's room suggestions were considered.
>>5220977We are abusing our little Helper Sprite again aren't we?Maybe we should research a Spirit Mansion where he can have servants to take his mind off of work.
Ok guys, looks like there is a consensus on saving DP for next floor. We can discuss the next important point : MP spending.I don't want to buy any low-level monsters. Saving MP for next floor Tier1 or Hobgoblins, then corruption of already-existing unit are the priority for me. Bugbears can be understandable choices, coupled with raid leader they are unseen fearsome foes. However, thanks to Grez we had a little snack giving us better chances for next invasion with more rooms. So what are we going to do?>Voting to stockpile MP unless someone change my mind.
>>5221073Definitely not worth getting anything low tier anymore. Ideally we would get nothing but hobgoblins and maybe one Savant for each room but the best choice DP wise is to save for the next floor instead of upgrading the Bugbear den, which leaves us with just Bugbears and Savants as decent monstersI think we can spend our point to get another Bugbear in the second room, and upgrade the one basic goblin we have left into a Savant, so we have a spellcaster in each room. That would make the second room a significant hurdle instead of just a speed bump. With what we have now, I would vote for >Buy Bugbear into Bugbear Den
>>5221081You know, we can also corrupt bugbears into Brutebear and Savantbear. We never did, it's more expensive, but we can.
>>5221090I like the idea of at least seeing what the Savantbear is. However, I don't think we have enough MP for that right now, so that would require us to save right now.
>>5221102and this is why I'm voting for stockpiling MP. Although I share >>5220376 anon's concern about our defensive strength, we have increased tremendously in defense since last time. I really hope QM won't send us dnd Avengers right now, and scale the difficulty around the level of 4 level 2 / 3 level 2 and 1 level 3 adventurers; for which we should have fairly high chances. Last time QM explicitly said we aimed for "stronger tomorrow" against "weaker today", so I really hope we are at least a lil bit above the curve, allowing us to stockpile more and get one shot at dungeon life.
Finally finished creating the "Room of Bewilderment" and the "Branding Chamber" in the mapping tool I use (DungeonDraft). Update should follow shortly. Considering the above replies, a brief question: Vote: Spending Monster Points (MP)>1 - Save up MP for now>2 - Spend MP If it ends up being "Save up MP for now" we'll simply skip spending MP for now and continue with the story.
>>5221117>>2 - Spend MPGotta get an extra BugbearOr something
>>5221073Preferably we would have at least one Hobgoblin per room before we dig downwards, but that is a serious investment of both DP and MP. We should at least buy another Bugbear to shore up the minion count and to give us more chances at mutations if we decide to build the [Hobgoblin Barracks].I'd like to see something like this for our first floor minion layout:Jungle Room:>Current minions + 1 HobgoblinBugbear Den/Hobgoblin Barracks:>1 Hobgoblin, 1 Bugbear, 1 Savant + the Scout>OPTIONAL +2 Hobgoblins, +1 SavantJust getting two big hitters in the Hobgoblins will give our dungeon more punch, the attack flexibility helps to negate characters with high single stats (right now we're very Strength heavy minion wise, so getting something that can attack with Dexterity would help a lot), and their HP make for a good obstacle which is also something we lack right now. It's also not 'terribly' expensive at 6DP and 13MP (16 if we count the Bugbear), something we should get if we can repel an invasion of 4 people at Level 2. We'll also be able to mutate the Bugbears if we chose to upgrade to the Barracks.Again though, this will detract from reaching the lower floor and will most likely not win any vote, but it would make us safer.The optional path is even more of a pipe dream, but it would turn the Hobgoblin Barracks in to an absolute nightmare for low-to-mid level parties as it will have 9HP worth of Hobgoblins to go through while they're either bombarded or slowed forever by the Savants. And if we do go down the optional path we should swap the Scout for the Raid Leader to make it an even larger pain.Worth to note also is if we build the Hobgoblin Barracks and spawn Hobgoblins is that it would be good to build and expand a trap room for 6DP to mutate those Hobgoblins at some point, after we've fortified the second floor.
>>5221117>2 - Spend MPBuy one Bugbear and station it in the Den
>>5221117>1 - Save up MP for now
>>5221117>2 - Spend MPlets get some more security and stay ahead of the Bellcurve.. hopefully.
>>5221117I'm >>5221073Save MP
>>5221117Changing my vote>>5221120 to support >>5221121
>>5221148To expand on my point of view, "A stronger today mean a weaker tomorrow".This is short-term gain where we already have set the bossroom, the puzzle and the gobzard for next invasion. We will need the scaling and the additional MP for first monsters of second floor.
>>5221156I don't see how buying a Bugbear is a "short term gain". Even if we had Hobgoblins unlocked, Bugbears are a solid monster, and I think getting one in each room is a good move. They are also our only source of WIS checks we can buy, (apart from [slow], but that is a spell and deals no damage) and it's a check of 14, on par with the hobgoblin. Not to mention the potential for double damage.Getting one will not make us worse later, it is a solid investment either way. More then one, I would agree is not worth it when we can get better stuff later. But just the one is fine, I think.I also don't share your optimism for our immediate safety, but even without that the above points stand
>>5221197Bugbear is a "short term gain" because we'll delay stacking tier2 monster once we carved the 2nd floor.
>>5221117>>1 - Save up MP for now
>>5221220Well even if we get the required Mp to expand downwards and get the Tier 1 spawner down there. We can only spend so much MP on Monsters due to the Roomlimit for them. We can only place so many monsters down there before needing to expand again. Something we might not have the MP for before the next Invasion.
>>5221231I would prefer stockpiling as I fear/expect Tier2 monster to be really expensive. Something along the line of 10 MP by monster; they will also propel the power level of the dungeon quite high.In my mind, replicating the floor 1 strategy of speedrun-upgrading tier 2 monster then spawning one and make him a tier 3 boss is the way to go for a safer floor. This will need 15DP for floor, at least 5DP*2 for the monster camp, 5 DP for the boss room (total : 30). Regarding monsters, we'll need 10MP as soon as second floor is diggydig dug (15MP) to be sure to be able to spawn a monster, this is doable on next invasion if we stockpile MP and invest solely on DP. I feel like bugbear might be a bit of a DP waste, the wisdom save is "just" for damage buff if attack is successfull.
>>5221156>A stronger today mean a weaker tomorrowI do not understand how you arrived at this conclusion. How exactly is investing in minions that increase the probability of us killing invaders a net loss for tomorrow if we grow the fastest by killing and consuming invaders? Those Monster Points will not stop invaders if they are unspent, and with 11 days of passive DP gain before we can expand to Floor 2 on our own, it's expected that we'll be invaded at least once during that time. Better to have an additional Bugbear in the field to kill those invaders with and turn them to Monster Points for Floor 2 than to sit on them and maybe take a loss or let invaders escape the dungeon.
>>5221254I arrived to that conclusion because I take into account the loss of future opportunities (I detailed just above). Buying bugbears is detrimental to optimal floor 1 layout (because hobgoblins are better and let's face it, we'll spend our future DP to dig, so less monster spots) and will delay progression of Floor 2 acceptable defense line creation (Boss room with a tier 3 second floor monster)
>>5221251>I would prefer stockpiling as I fear/expect Tier2 monster to be really expensive. Something along the line of 10 MP by monster;...Why would you think this?The only thing we know is that it gives us access to higher tier monsters. You know, eventually. We have not been given the specifics, but I assume it would be closer to something like>1st floor monsters:>tier1->tier2->tier3>2nd floor monsters:>tier2->tier3->tier4In which case a tier 2 monsters we will start with will be the same rank as a Bugbear, with most likely a similar cost and power level. I doubt we will immediately unlock a monster that costs 10MP, that would be a ridiculous assumption to work off of.>the wisdom save is "just" for damage buff if attack is successfull.It's still our only good source of wisdom checks, and one that deals double damage if the enemy fails. It's anything but a waste. >>5221263>Buying bugbears is detrimental to optimal floor 1 layoutAgain, Bugbears are great. And it's not like I'm advocating for buying a shitton of them, just one per room. In this case, 1 extra Bugbear.Consider that we have our four strongers monsters in the first room (because they have amazing synergy and work best against fresh teams) which leaves us vulnerable to shit like [haste]. It is best to have an at least decently well populated 2nd room, which it currently really isn't. An extra Bugbear will go a long way.
>>5221281I'm diggin up the archive. I thought second floor would be tier4->tier5->tier6. Can't found any definitive proof of either my or your assumption. This is why I wanted to stockpile MP. Although I have to clear a small yet crucial point : I don't consider buying bugbear as a waste of MP. Only not the optimal choice based on what I know, plus what I assume.
>>5221291I briefly dug into the archive, but found nothing and gave up. If you find something, please let us know.>I don't consider buying bugbear as a waste of MP. Only not the optimal choice based on what I know, plus what I assume.Acknowledged. Personally I think we are already greedy enough as it is by saving for the second floor instead of getting the Hobgoblin barracks, or another trap room or something. Saving both DP and MP is asking for trouble.
Waving his wife and kids goodbye, Blue Spark materialized into the dungeon’s plane of existence.It felt like it had been good long time since it was last called upon so it was filled with fresh displeasure.Despite being summoned here, no work was forced upon it just yet.Both of the dungeon’s egos were having a stand-off.“That’s quite a lot of Dungeon Points,” noted the Scholar, as he was staring at the other ego.“Indeed it is,” replied the Sadist, folding his arms.“One might suggest the purchase of something called a [Room of Bewilderment],” stated the Scholar.“One might,” replied the Sadist, eyes narrowing, “If their favourite pastime was sniffling glue.”“I was curious!” spat the Scholar, then coughed, “I need that room for research.””You wanted to help the orc lady, right? I’ll be needing a [Branding Chamber] for that,” added the Sadist, “Clearly, that’s the room we should be building.”The Blue Spark swivelled its back from side-to-side as it followed the conversation.“Half-orc, but how altruistic,” said the Scholar, “What’s the catch?”The Sadist shrugged, “Since it’s something you want we would be spending your half of the points to build it.”Raising an eyebrow, the Scholar replied, “Certainly. Why, I won’t even have a need for a [Room of Bewilderment] to help us research the various books the scoutmaster has brought us. I’ll be far too busy analysing you. Tell me, was there, at any point, a backflip in the mental gymnastics you performed just now?”The Sadist growled, “I need a [Branding Chamber] to analyse that [Contract Mark] so we can bind her to our will!”“Well, I need a [Room of Bewilderment] to research magic and the books we’ve acquired!” spat the Scholar.It dawned on Blue Spark where this was heading. Overtime. It was heading towards overtime.Both egos turned towards the Blue Spark simultaneously and barked their commands: a “Room of Bewilderment” and a “Branding Chamber”.As expected, hard labour awaited. Not one, but two rooms had to be made.Perhaps its mother had been right and it should’ve taken that job as a guide for that mute elf boy.The light emanating from the Blue Spark dimmed slightly. It headed off to work.
>>5221369An unhealthy amount of grinding noises, blowtorch hissing, and a broken cement mixer later – the Blue Spark completed both rooms. It reconsidered its stance on joining an union.[Room [Branding Chamber] has been constructed.][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 8][Room [Room of Bewilderment] has been constructed.][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 3]The walls of the [Branding Chamber] were lined with chains and shackles, where prisoners could be kept.The centre was dominated by a large, round forge. Hanging over it was a chute that would feed it coals and ensured the flames dancing within the forge were always red-hot.A branding iron rested within the forge, sporting an ever-changing brand.Various cages dotted the room, circular as well as common, square ones.The biggest eye-catcher beside the forge was a stockade that stood within a magical circle.The carpet of blood underneath it really pulled the room together.The Sadist smiled, then remembered they had just consumed their only two captives, and frowned.Like a wolf searching for prey, its hungry gaze eventually found the sobbing form of Grez near the entrance.Meanwhile on the other side of the dungeon’s mindscape. Which was not that far off, really.A good-natured individual might go around calling it cosy, but in reality the place had some privacy concerns.Regardless, on the other side of the knee-height fence of the mindscape, the Scholar cackled in glee.Its presence swam through the new chamber. It dances between the various bookshelves and rushed past the dozens of tomes of knowledge contained within. More than anything, it swirled around the large lectern that stood amidst a powerful magical circle. “This it it,” it laughed, “Any tome placed on this will result in a painful lesson, indeed!”Both egos lost in ecstasy, the Blue Spark quietly made its exit and returned home.It had been promised meatloaf, after all.---------------------------------->1 - Spend MP>2 - Go speak with Grez>3 - Check out the "Branding Chamber">4 - Check out the "Room of Bewilderment" >5 - Other (Write-in)
>>5221375>Go speak with Grez>Check out the "Branding Chamber"It's about time we get her properly enslaved.
>>5221375Need 3 d100 rolls for the initial three brandings that come with the "Branding Chamber". Please include the following message:Rolling for initial random brandOne roll per reply
Rolled 88 (1d100)>>5221375>1 - Spend MPSpawn an additional Bugbear>2 - Go speak with Grez>3 - Check out the "Branding Chamber">>5221380>Rolling for initial random brandLets get something useful here.
Rolled 42 (1d100)>>5221377+1>>5221380Rolling for initial random brand
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>5221380
Rolled 77 (1d100)>>5221375>1 - Spend MPSpawn an additional Bugbear>2 - Go speak with Grez>3 - Check out the "Branding Chamber">>5221380Rolling for initial random brand
>>5221389>>5221388one didn't include the message but the one that did rolled the same thing anyways, lol
>>5221388>>5221389Dub 77s gotta be worth something.
I'll post more information regarding the "Branding Chamber" tomorrow. I'm not certain if I like the "Branding" mechanics at the moment, I need to think them over before I reveal them.
>>5221375>Go speak with Grez.I'm sticking to my old guns :>Also, Ask instinct and Grez about creating item. Can we spawn wealth? Can we absorb her and remake her whole as a reward, with a contract mark indicating she is ours?
>>5221441>Posted at 00.19So... Is tomorrow today or tomorrow?Will a stronger today post number mean a weaker tomorrow?
Contentment. The Dungeon had just acquired two powerful utility rooms.It was time to see how these could be put to use.Ever the curious one, the Scholar pulled itself away from its new chamber, “So, how does yours work?”An undeniable look of superiority etched into its face, the Sadist replied, “Instinct, tell Scholar all you know about 'Brands' and the [Branding Chamber].”-------------------------------------[Investigating 'Branding'.]Query: InstructionsContext: [Branding Chamber]Response:In the event that hostile, non-dungeon creatures are defeated they can become the recipient of a “Brand”.These can be applied using a dungeon room called a [Branding Chamber].The dungeon can choose to apply either a known brand or imprint a completely random one.Applying a random “Brand” to a creature does not mean you understand it well enough to add it to your library.Branding, as a process, is performed by adjusting the recipient’s “blueprint” and therefor very taxing on them.The “Brand” will appear somewhere on the recipient’s skin. Cutting away the skin or otherwise removing it through non-magical means will cause it to appear elsewhere on the body within a day. Its effects are not stopped during this time.- Only one “Brand” can be applied per recipient, per day.- Currently, a recipient can at most receive three (3) brands.- A recipient can only have one instance of a specific brand at a time.- There is no cost involved when applying a known or random “Brand”.As “Brands” are simply forced adjustments of the structure of the recipient, they can be removed.This can be done through powerful cleansing magic cast using “Essence” or by the dungeon.When performed through the dungeon, removing a brand costs either one (1) Dungeon Point or Monster Point.Alternatively, should you encounter a creature that has a “Brand” or “Curse Mark” you do not yet posses in your list of known “Brands”, you can choose to analyse it and learn its effects – adding it to your library.Analysing a “Brand” in this way costs either one (1) Dungeon Point or Monster Point.The “Brand” is “picked apart” during this process and will be removed from the creature it is on.-------------------------------------The Scholar scratched the side of its head, “Interesting, but couldn’t you have told me this all? This is sorta your ‘thing' isn’t?”The Sadist scoffed, “The ability to delegate is what signifies a leader.”It clasped its arms behind its back, “Instinct, what brands are currently known to us?”
>>5221906-------------------------------------[Investigating 'Brands'.]Query: Known BrandsContext: LibraryResponse:The following “Brands” are known to the dungeon.42 - Brand of the Broken ManThe adjustments to your body applied by the brand have allowed you to become all-knowing.Thousands of years worth of knowledge poured into your mind.A burden of knowledge that proved to much to bear and broke you.You become prone to ramble, delusions, and conspiracies.The target had disadvantage on all “Wisdom” saving throws.77 - Brand of IcarusStanding between the seven of perfection and the seven hundred-seventy-seven of the creator, seventy-seven grants limited control over the creation. It allows one to determine the meaning of perfection and mould the recipient to that image.You can change one physical aspect about the recipient.Including, but not limited to: race, gender, skin colour, height, and similar attributes.88 - Brand of Eternal VigilConstantly on edge, forever on guard: the target is no longer able to sleep.The target is immune to spells, skills, or abilities that induce sleep.Regardless of what it was before, the target’s constitution modifier becomes a -3.00 - Brand of Cruel Intent (Acquired through Corruption of Sadism)The recipient becomes more assertive, controlling, and takes delight in suffering of others.Furthermore, they become more charming and persuasive when it comes to tempting others to act according to their will.00 - Brand of the Crazed Scholar (Acquired through Corruption of the Crazed Scholar)The world is filled with wonder and mystery. How awful.The recipient of this brand gains an unrelenting hunger for knowledge.They will go out of their way to acquire magical items and study the arcane.-------------------------------------“I think it’s time for hands-on experience,” said the Sadist, “Have our hobgoblin, if we can even still call it that, have a friendly little chat with the orc.”“We should really get around to naming him,” said the Scholar, “He’s unique. He deserves a name.”-------------------------------------Taking suggestions for a name for “Unnamed” the hobgoblin boss.Reply to this post with your suggestions and we’ll have a voting round.No need to vote on any entries just yet.Talking to Grez>1 - Tell her that the dungeon has found a to get rid of her mark.>2 - Thank her for her efforts so far, mention you hope for another supply tomorrow, and send her on her way.
>>5221910Also taking write-ins for Grez.
>>5221910>ask instinct if we can spawn gold and the mechanics behind it.>welcome grez in for doing a good job tell her we will uphold our end of the deal absorb her, remove brand and then study the brand using 2 monster points>if we can make a decent amount of money with 1 monster point do so. We can give it to grez ans use her qs shopping>depending on what grez's brands do, if it enslaves her to us use that first otherwise offer brand of icarus to change her shape/race however she wishes. We all know sje has an orc complex. Next day we should apply brand of cruel intent. Op can we use more then one brand of icarus? Or apply its effect more over a long period of time..
>>5221910I believe the name 'Chadakplin' was somewhat the consensus from the last thread.>Tell her that the dungeon has found a way to get rid of her mark, though it requires more resources. Offer her a boon for her loyalty should she want it (Brand of Cruel Intent) and mention you hope for another supply tomorrow.>Hand her any lose items from Fenton and Viktor (Swords, backpack etc.) that she can sell and make some cash. Maybe it'll be enough for a healer.Grez doesn't know how the Dungeon works, even if she fails to bring someone back tomorrow we can still remove her mark, but play it off like we're making a sacrifice for her sake.Offer her the Mark of Cruel Intent, but don't force it pn her, to buff her already strong Charisma so she has a higher chance to lure victims to us. It might also make her feel less guilty about sending people to their deaths, and she may even start enjoying it. A perfect path towards corruption.
>>5221910Oh man, I am going to like this mechanic. The Brand of Icarus has some serious trolling potential. Imagine we beat Ben and then throw him back out as woman. My god, it would be glorious. Though the other two brands are also really useful. We are going to get some good mileage out of this chamber. Also, the Brand of Cruel Intent is PERFECT for Grez. No longer will she have to worry about that pesky conscience of hers, and she gets more charming to lure people back here.Not to mention, she is the one who made us a sadist in the first place, wouldn't it be poetic if we did the same to her? I think it's destiny at this point.Name suggestion wise, someone suggested "Chadaplin" and "Chadaklin" as modification that roll off the tongue a little easier. I like both.>1 - Tell her that the dungeon has found a to get rid of her mark.Tell her that she has done ~splendid~ work and that thanks to her, we are one step closer to ridding her of her mark. We just need to get a good look at it. Please go into the dedicated branding facility and we will take it from there, no worries. Eventually we could bluff that the mark needs to be replaced by another brand, and that we just so happen to have one at the ready.
>>5221910I want the Hobgoblin out absolute Chad to be called Chadaklin.But the longer Version Chadakplin is also fine though much more of a Tongue Twister.Supporting >>5221924Also>Ask Instinct if we can spawn Gold or other things mortals consider valuable.
>>5221910>1 - Tell her that the dungeon has found a to get rid of her mark.
>>5221924Any Chadakplin variation is good for me.I'm glad my name suggestion was accepted in addition to my design.
>>5221910>1 - Tell her that the dungeon has found a to get rid of her mark.She bringed amazing value with the sailors. She deserved to be unbrand, fixed, then rebranded as ours using the current brand she have.Brand of Icarus is damn amazing. By putting/removing we will be able to almost turn her into changeling, so stealthier and harder for urban legend of demi-orc girl baiting people to death.We need to focus on healing her feet, else we will turn our best outside of dungeon asset into dead meat.
The way I see it, the only reliable way of getting a new brand short of luck like with Grez will be to brand someone with a random brand, release them, hope they come back then analyse it off of them.Could be worth doing once we are not so worried about getting found.Or if we catch something like rats again.>>5221920>Op can we use more then one brand of icarus?It says >- A recipient can only have one instance of a specific brand at a time.
>>5221951Well, does removing brand of Icarus remove effects?
>>5221968>As “Brands” are simply forced adjustments of the structure of the recipient, they can be removed.It's not explicitly stated, but explanations like the above means it is very likely it removes the effect. They are not a permanent modification, but "forced adjustment". I imagine they would "adjust" back without the brand.
>all these votes for just letting Grez get rid of the contract mark while we still have no way to directly control herIf we give Grez what she wants by removing her Contract Mark and the money to heal her foot right now she has no reason to come back to us, or stay in Duskmire for that reason. Without the leverage she'll just leave the city to escape Ben and put this whole ordeal with the Dungeon behind her. If we want to keep her around as an asset we need to tie her to us some other way first, and the best way to do that is to give her the Brand of Cruel Intent before we remove her Contract Mark and let it's influence work her into taking a sadistic interest in throwing people in to the Dungeon and watching them get devoured.Just letting her have what she wants now is a mistake.
>>5221978Well, my full plan is removing the contract mark, study it; rebrand Grez with a contract more of our taste to make sure she stay our loyal little dungeon whore. Then the fun begins.
>>5221978Removing a brand to study it means we can replicate it. Which means we can just apply one of our own, problem solved.Besides, we have to get rid of it ASAP, or else the loan sharks are gonna look for her.
Hey guys,Grez will become our thing, right? We can make her try to solve the Puzzle room for days where she can't find some people to feed the dungeon? This way we'll grind the arcana secrets within better
>>5221986I feel replacing her Contract Mark with another right of the bat could cause a great deal of resentment. She's doing this to get rid of it, not replace it with another after all. Chances are she could try to find ways to circumvent any order we give her through the Contract Mark by chosing to interpret it wrong or by simply chosing to fail on purpose. "Oh you wanted me to bring more people, sorry couldn't hook anyone tonight on purpose", that sort of thing.I feel it would be more 'organic', so to speak, if she was given the BCI and felt a rush seeing people being slaughtered in the Dungeon, and wanting to feel that rush again by continuing to work with the Dungeon.Maybe I'm just overthinking this, but I feel this would work out better than simply slapping a replacement Slave mark on her.
>>5222009And as a true Sadist, she would delight in dungeon suffering. And will bring a level 42 party to utterly crush the dungeon and laugh in our despair.What about... Lying to her?"Sorry miss, tried our best, could only change the target of the curse, you're working for us now. If we manage to grow in power, you'll 100% get your freedom.
>>5222009For what it's worth, I get what you are saying, and putting the Brand of Cruel Intent on her first would be a better way of roping her in willingly... but you run the risk of her pulling shit like this >>5222014 or just running away altogether, since nothing would tie her to us anymore. Besides, to be perfectly frank we are really not that bad of a "boss" to have. Didn't the loan sharks tell her she would work for them as a whore? Or "job" is much more dignified then that. If we give her some/all the possession the people she ropes in had, it might even be downright nice. Better then anything else an orphan gets to look forward to, no doubt. Combine that with what we already told her about cleaning the city of its scumbags, and we've got a very nice argument to feed her so she cooperates. And we have a silver tongued devil to deliver said argument. I think it will be fine.Hell, if that's not enough, we just tell her that we will remove our slave mark after a few weeks or months. You know, work off the debt of us removing her slave mark. That stuff is expensive to remove, normally. Fair trade, no? During that time the Brand of Cruel Intent will work it's magic, and with any luck she will want to stay.
My Thursday campaign has concluded for now. The players have been asking for another campaign, but I should have some Thursdays open for the time being so I can work on the quest. >>5221968>Well, does removing brand of Icarus remove effects?Removing the brand removes its effects, yes. This goes for any mark. The Hobgoblin's name will becomes: ChadaklinIf you disagree, reply to this post.>Ask Instinct if we can spawn Gold or other things mortals consider valuable.Will be asked. >Check if the bodies of Fenton and Viktor had anything valuable on themWill be done. What to do with GrezI'm seeing a lot of discussion. We'll just take it one step at a time. What "Brand" to apply afterwards (if any) will happen after this vote. >1 - Remove the [Contract Mark]. (Spending 1 MP)>2 - Analyse the [Contract Mark]. This also removes it. (Spending 1 MP)>3 - Remove the [Contract Mark]. (Spending 1 DP)>4 - Analyse the [Contract Mark]. This also removes it. (Spending 1 DP)>5 - Don't remove the [Contract Mark] for now
>>5222127>2 - Analyse the [Contract Mark]. This also removes it. (Spending 1 MP)
>>5222127>2 - Analyse the [Contract Mark]. This also removes it. (Spending 1 MP)And keep her confined for now. Tell her its for negotiations on how to proceed from here and future cooperation. We are her BEST bet of staying alive well fed and not a cripple in the future.Glad to hear your players had fund. Maybe ask one of them if they would like to be the BRIGNER OF TORMENT- I mean the GM for the next campaign.
>>5222127Voting closedGetting rid of the mark seemed to be the consensus, so I don't think anyone would object to the choice that was made.
>>5222174Late to the party, would have voted on the consensus.
The Scholar thought for a moment, “How about Chadaphlin?”The Sadist waved a dismissive hand, “Nah, that wouldn’t work.”It tapped its chin a few times, “What about Chadaklin? Now there’s a name that swells with power.”“What?” replied the Scholar, “That’s the same thing I suggested.”“No it isn’t,” replied the Sadist.“How is it different?” cried the Scholar.“I suggested it,” remarked the Sadist.“Argh, you’re so petty. Fine, whatever. Chadaklin it is,” said the Scholar as he threw up his hands, “Let’s just send Chadaklin to the entrance already.”-----------------Lounging in its seat in the [Boss Room], the massive hobgoblin drew in a breath.It had observed the changes made by the Blue Spark with interest, but couldn’t help being disappointed.The large, impressive double doors that had been the entrance to its room earlier had been replaced by the back of book case. He felt like it didn’t quite have the same touch to it.A voice appeared in the back of the hobgoblin’s mind.It was the frantic one, the one that always sounded like he was in a hurry.”Hey, you. Yeah, you. You’re, uh, Chadaklin now. That’s your name. Good strong name. Anyway, go to the entrance. We’ve got a guest,” said the voice of the Scholar. The connection broke abruptly.Chadaklin the hobgoblin slapped his knees once and got up and wandered towards the bookcase to shove it open.There was a slight groan as it swung open, nothing too bad. It seemed like the bookcase meant to open this way, a hidden passage. It closed the secret door behind itself and frowned. No skulls lined the entrance of his [Boss Room].”So far for tradition,” he said, continuing on his way to the entrance.It passed through the [Bugbear Den] which contained a [Goblin Scout] and a [Goblin], both creatures positively trembled as they spotted the dungeon boss for the first time. They weren’t sure that they could match his height even if they stacked all the goblins together. Chadaklin would like to familiarize himself with the rest of the goblin folk at some point, but right now it was acting on orders. He gave them a nod as he passed.-----------------The resident [Bugbear] was feeling pretty good about itself. It had been able to sneak up on its first enemy just now and dealt a devastating blow that ultimately won them the battle. It had only been spawned recently, so it wasn’t too sure about things like performance reviews, or even what they were, but it was confident that it would be a good one.It decided it had earned a good nap for its efforts and dozed off.A little while later it awoke with a start, there was a slight rustle coming from the jungle that surrounded it.Panic ensued. Had there been another invasion and had it overslept?Faint fantasies of positive performance reviews diminished to nothing, it rushed to meet the source of the noise in the hope of redeeming itself.
>>5222261It collided with a set of abs and was forced to slowly crane its neck upwards, something it didn’t often have to do.The bugbear swallowed, it was the boss. It didn’t even remember seeing the towering figure leave the [Boss Room] before, but here it was. A massive hand extended itself into the direction of the bugbear, but ultimately settled on its shoulder. The bugbear squeaked. The hobgoblin lumbered past.The remaining goblinoids began to follow the boss as it made its way through the [Jungle Room].Well, all of them except for the [Goblin Bright Bringer] which spent most of its downtime licking poisonous frogs.Eventually, Chadaklin arrived at the entrance where he spotted the small, balled-up form of Grez.“You did well,” he said with a powerful, yet comforting tone.The small ball of Grez unfurled, she looked up, “I killed them.”“No,” stated Chadaklin, “They did this to themselves.”Grez simply stared, confusion clear on her face.She absent-mindedly clutched her leg.[Corruption trait “Sadism” is influencing the Dungeon’s behaviour.][Hobgoblin skill “Silver Tongue“ is being applied.]“You lead them here for the treasure,” continued the hobgoblin, “The treasure is real. it’s probably around here somewhere if the journal is to be believed. They happened to stumble upon the entrance themselves and, despite your warnings, they entered. The dungeon simply defended itself. They even mentioned encountering a dungeon before. They should’ve known how it would react. Despite that, and your warnings, they entered the dungeon. You did nothing wrong, in fact – you did well.”The half-orc wiped part of her sleeve over her eyes, “But this wouldn’t have happened if I had never lead them here.”Chadaklin waved a hand, “You’re too paranoid. You’ll have to be harder if you want to cleanse the city. Sure, you lead them here, but you didn’t force them to enter. You advised against it. Would this have happened if they went to a different tavern? Should the local that suggested said tavern to them feel guilty? How about their captain that decided to dock their ship here? It never ends.” said the hobgoblin, thinking for a moment, “If anyone is to blame, it’s the dungeon. Not because the dungeon killed them, they knew how it would react to their presence, but because we asked you to find people and lead them here.”Grez stared morosely at the ground and nodded.“Because the dungeon cares about you,” continued the hobgoblin, “In fact, we might be the only one. Everyone out there seems adamant to kill you. To capture you. To punish you. Instead, the dungeon is desperately trying to find ways to save you.”The half-orc continued staring at the ground and began tracing little circles on the cavern floor.
>>5222264The Sadist’s presence hung around the hobgoblin like a cloak, tainting his every word and action.”Bringing people here was dangerous for the dungeon. What if the sailors had just turned around brought their entire crew? This could’ve been the end for us, but we took that risk – to save you.”The hobgoblin began to pace around slightly, “Remember, we needed some way to get additional resources so we can help you get rid of that [Contract Mark]. The dungeon doesn’t want anything bad to happen to you. Hey, Grez?”Eyes still slightly puffed up from the crying and clearly exhausted, Grez looked up.“I don’t want anything bad to happen to you,” said Chadaklin, flashing her sombre smile, “You’re my only friend. Everyone else out there seems to want to destroy the dungeon and me with it. You got us what we needed. You helped us.”Chadaklin extended a hand into the direction of Grez, “Now let us – help you.”Grez’s jaw dropped, “You mean…?”“That’s right,” replied Chadaklin, “We found a way to get rid of your [Contract Mark].”Despite everything, Grez still seemed doubtful, she reached out towards Chadaklin’s hand, only to withdraw it moments later, “I don’t know if I can trust you…”Chadaklin relented, “Trusting somebody you barely know can be scary, but if you can’t trust me – then that would mean that you are all alone. That nobody cares for you. I think that would be far scarier and it doesn’t have to be like that, because I care for you. Even though I might be the only, I care for you,” said the hobgoblin and extended his hand a second time.Grez swallowed, stood, and took his hand.[One hostile creatures has entered the dungeon]-----------------The Scholar snapped his fingers in annoyance, “Drat,” it said, “Still hostile even after all that, huh?”“Trust me, we’re making progress. Right now she might be turning to us because we are the only real option she has, but I think her opinions will shift in due time. We need to back up our words with actions,” replied the Sadist, “It’s only a matter of time at this point.”-----------------Need DC 8 Constitution saving throws for Grez Wildflower (-1 modifier)Please include the following message:Rolling for Grez Wildflower against [Jungle Room]
Rolled 3 - 1 (1d20 - 1)>>5222266Rolling for Grez Wildflower against [Jungle Room]
Rolled 2 (1d8)>>5222266Rolling for Grez Wildflower against [Jungle Room]
Aaaaannnd we are getting provided with free invasion success. We'll even see if dungeon absorption will recreate her feet.
Well, at least we get some points, and we don't need to kill her.
>>5222269Good thing it doesn't change much, in the end.We will even find out if we can do something about her foot....She might be mildly pissed though.
>>5222279We can bullshit our way out of this."As a dungeon, Killing consenting people does not result in capture, but real death. Sorry for the half truth, it was a test to see if we could restore your foot by capturing you."If this works, "we couldn't completely remove the contract but we edited terms. Help us grow stronger and we'll completely remove the mark."If this doesn't,"You wanted to get wealth from us at our first encounter. How so? We need to get funds to fix your feet."This should mitigate the mild piss
>>5222274>We'll even see if dungeon absorption will recreate her feet.Doubt it. It probably restores defeated invaders to the state they were in before they entered, meaning Grez's foot is still damaged. If she was actually acting as our minion, she probably would be restored fully. But then she wouldn't be attacked by the Dungeon either when trying to enter. Maybe next time Grez tries to enter we hand her the Ring of Vitality first so that she doesn't die from the Jungle Room.Upside, we now have a good excuse for reapplying the contract mark. >"The Dungeon can not act against it's instincts. A price must be paid to allow release, and the Brand is the safest price. Otherwise another limb would have to serve as the cost."
Name: Grez WildflowerType: Humanoid (Half-orc)Level: 1Health: 1Strength: -1Dexterity: +1Constitution: -1Wisdom: +2Intelligence: +1Charisma: +3
>>5222378Chadaklin took her by the hand and lead Grez into the dungeon.It was a bit of an odd sight, the hobgoblin being eleven foot tall and Grez herself being five foot four.Almost like a child being escorted by her parent, her arm was angled upwards.Things had been hard lately, she had been crying a lot. A lot. However, things were finally looking up.----------------“Good, she’s in,” cried the Scholar, “Now knock her the fuck out! I want magic putty!”The Sadist winced, “You have no tact,” said the Sadist, “Chadaklin, put her to sleep, but be smart about it. We don’t want to give her a reason to doubt us.”----------------Chadaklin nodded at the unseen voice and then turned towards Grez, “I’m not gonna lie to you, Grez,” he said, looking down, “Removing the [Contract Mark] will hurt. It might be best to not be awake for this. We can gently put you to sleep and it’ll all be over when you wake up.”Grez hesitated for a moment and stared at the small army of goblins that surrounded her.They probably would’ve attacked her already if they truly had bad intentions. She nodded.Hands guided by the Scholar’s knowledge, Chadaklin began picking up some colourful flowers and held them out towards Grez.The half-orc blushed slightly, “These are beautiful,” she said, taking the flowers.“They are poisonous,” said Chadaklin.“Oh,” replied Grez, quickly holding the flowers at arm’s length.“From what I understand It’s not a painful poison,” said Chadaklin, “If you hold them to your face and take a deep breath you will pass out in seconds. We’ll take it from there.”Grez heart was beating rapidly, was she really going to trust the dungeon with her life?She stared at the flowers she was holding at a distance, her hands were already starting to feel numb.It was a gamble, she knew. However, not playing this round would mean losing for certain in two days time – when her [Contract Mark] expired. Grez shook her head in an attempt to fight of the jitters, brought the flowers to her nose, and inhaled deeply.[Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' takes one (1) point of damage from [Jungle Room].][The health of hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' has reached zero (0).][Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' has gone unconscious.][Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' has been defeated.][The dungeon will now absorb hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower'.]
>>5222388[The invasive force has been defeated.][All monsters within the dungeon will now respawn and traps will reset.]----------------Invasion summary: VictoryAll hostile creatures in the dungeon have been bested.Amount of enemies beaten: 1Amount of dungeon points (DP) gained: 3*Amount of monster points (MP) gained: 1**Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' is currently held by the dungeon*Average level of enemy group times 3 (Rounded up)**Amount of monster points gained equals the level total of all bested invaders----------------METAJust noticed I gave out 2 MP during the previous invasion when that should’ve been 3 MP.I’ll add that now.END OF META[Total amount of Monster Points (MP) remaining: 6][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 6]
>>5222389Grez’s unconscious form disappeared into the jungle floor and was immediately transferred to the [Branding Chamber].The ceiling of the place was thick with smoke and the blazing forge brought forth a blistering heat.The dungeon, with all its odd little intricacies, brought forth Grez from its depth and propped her up while a small goblin wearing a torturer’s cap puffed into existence. The little creature jumped onto a small stool and began working the bellows, feeding the flames and heating the branding iron that rested within.“Calm down there, little buddy,” said the Scholar, stifling a cough, “No need for that just yet.””We just want you to check out the mark on her shoulder for now, tell us what it does,” it added.The little goblin stared towards the ceiling for a moment, reached out towards the branding iron and held it up imploringly.”No, no. Put it down,” pressed the Scholar.Saddened, the goblin’s head titled towards the floor and it let the branding slip from its grasp.It jumped down from the stool, scooted it towards the unconscious Grez, and stepped onto it to have a better look at Grez’s [Contract Mark]. Then, it reached into a pocket and pulled out a set of glasses that had many lenses set in a row, magnifying anything viewed through them.Using the back of its hand, It tapped the mark once or twice – indicating that it was rock solid.The goblin slid its glasses up to its forehead and held up a hand, open palm facing upwards.“What does it want now?” said the Scholar.“I think it wants some magic to work with,” replied the Sadist, digging into the reserves, “Here you go. Waste it and I’ll hang you.”[One (1) Monster Point (MP) has been spend for the purposes of analysing Grez Wildflower’s [Contract Mark].][Total amount of Monster Points (MP) remaining: 5]The supplied magic floated down into the [Branding Chamber] where it coalesced into the shape of a needle as it settled on the palm of the small torturer’s hand.It got to work.As the egos observed the creature as it performed its craft, they noticed that the magical needle did not so much pierce the skin, rather it poked, prodded, and punctured through the magical circle imprinted on Grez’s shoulder. It began dissecting it. Breaking the [Contract Mark] apart in separate pieces, each of which it had a long good look at.There were layers, upon layers to it. Some of which were intertwined, overlapping circles. While others were runes that neither of the egos recognized. The pieces didn’t seem to want to part with Grez, there was some definitive resistance there. The goblin had to work pretty hard to detach some of them from the half-orc. Even in her unconscious state, the pain occasionally caused Grez trash around. After a good while, it removed the final chunk of the magical circle from Grez, inspected it briefly, and nodded.
>>5222394------------Contract Mark (Curse Mark)A complex magical circle that can be used to enforce a contract.The circle itself has to be placed upon the recipient, which is often the person in the subordinate position.Said recipient will be forced to magically comply with the contents of the contract when able or forced to perform certain acts when in breach of contract. All of the terms, clauses, procedures, and protocols, can be found in the contents of the contract and should be carefully scrutinized. The main complexity of this mark comes not from the magical circle, but from the contract it enforces.The contents of the contract can be either directly inscribed into the circle or written down on a piece of parchment, like a physical contract, and then later pressed onto the skin where the [Contract Mark] is placed.The contract will be then be absorbed into the magical circle and become part of it just like as if it had been directly inscribed. The [Contract Mark] will activate once the recipient voices their consent.Alternatively, a “blood bound” contract can be formed by creating a [Contract Mark] on the skin of an individual of both parties and then pressing a contract, which both have signed in blood, to the magical circle. In this instance, both parties are magically obligated to comply with the terms on the contract. These are more often used when both parties involved are of equal standing.------------“Sweet!,” cried the Scholar as its eyes lit up, then coughed into a fist, “I mean, splendid. What now?”------------Grez Wildflower>1 - Consume hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' and gain 2 [Monster Points]>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>4 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and keep her in captivity>5 - Release Grez Wildflower without applying a “Brand” (Triggers [Sadism] trait)>6 - Other (Write-in)I’m aware that I’ve yet to hit upon the things listed below, I'm working towards it>Ask Instinct if we can spawn Gold or other things mortals consider valuable.>Check if the bodies of Fenton and Viktor had anything valuable on them.
That will be all for today, I will be back in something like 10h. As a side-note, we've hit 50.000 words. Which isn't a lot compared to some of the quests out there, but is for me. I'd like to thank everyone for their participation up until this point. I have so much more planned for this quest and hope that you'll be here for it.
>>5222396>Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>Brand of Icarus: Make her shorterWe've already got her pretty well under our sway, but we should still not be *TOO* evil too her, yet.
>>5222400>apply brand of icarus. I dunno make her more beautiful fix her leg?Im glad you here to do it QM ive enjoyed every update of this. Also this whole gez sidleplot has been great.
>>5222396>The [Contract Mark] will activate once the recipient voices their consent.Okay, that is going to make this tricky, actually. Of course, she was already tricked once into a agreeing to a contract that was different then she was told, so we could try the same thing, but she might be hesitant to agree to anything for obvious reasons.I guess we will just have to risk it and hope she doesn't betray us until we can get her to agree to a solid contract. Or bind her another way. Until then I propose:>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>Brand of Cruel IntentThis will modify her behaviour to make her more agreeable to our methods. It should go a long way to drawing her to our side permanently.
>>5222396>Brand of Cruel Intent
>>5222400Happy to be here QM, I've enjoyed this quest a lot so far. I am pleased to hear you have stuff planned, I look forward to seeing it.
>>5222396>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her- Brand of Cruel Intent
>>5222396>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>Brand of Cruel Intent
>>5222396>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>Brand of Cruel IntentObvious choice here.
>>5222396> Brand of Cruel Intent
So... How is Grez leg so far?
>>5222624Festering....Its festering. She really needs a healer or will either be a cripple and or dead
Voting closed>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>Brand of Cruel Intent
>>5222396>Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her. brand of icarus, try to heal her leg
Hey QM, I profoundly and thoroughly love the fact you have more time for the thread and we're getting back to dungeon antics nowadays.Can't wait for next big invasion.
>>5222396“Now,” said the Sadist with a devious grin, “We do what I’ve been wanting to do for a long, long time.”It nudged the little torturer to action and the goblin rushed over and grabbed hold of the branding iron with glee.“Give her one of mine,” said the Sadist, “Let mine be the first. I want her to know who she belongs to.”The little goblin nodded and began to work the bellows, the coals began turning red-hot and the symbol on the end oft he branding iron began to shift through various shapes before finally settling on the [Brand of Cruel Intent].Tiles and stonework began to curl back to create a path towards the pillory, the wooden device seemed to open up by itself, allowing the arms and head of the unconscious Grez to be slotted into it. The dungeon helped where needed, moving the body to the pillory and providing a stone pillar underneath the half-orc's stomach to prop her up and ensure she wouldn’t simply dangle from the wooden device.--------------------I’m wondering what to do for the brand placement.>1 - Take suggestions for the brand placement>2 - Roll for the brand placement (table will be made public)>3 - Just let the QM decideWhat does the [Brand of Cruel Intent] look like?>1 - Take image suggestions>2 - Just let the QM decide
>>5222761>>Brand placement>3 - Just let the QM decideDon't really have a preference myself. Though I would stipulate that it isn't in an easily visible spot, like that forehead or something. That could be problematic later.>>Brand look>2 - Just let the QM decideDon't really mind either way.
>>5222761>1 - Take suggestions for the brand placementSince it's an actually chamber staffed by a Goblin worker we should be able to chose where the brand goes.>2 - Just let the QM decide
>>5222761Placement>1 - Take suggestions for the brand placementSomewhere inconspicious would be preferable for this brand.Look>2 - Just let the QM decide
>>5222761>Take suggestion for the brand placementLeft Buttcheek. Hidden enough. >Image Picrel
>>5222785Time for some shitty symbolism :The circles represent a target. Objectives of the brand bearer.Whatever way they come from (3 lines below), they now are focus enough (target) to control and make suffer other (new way, different from the other but still going in the same direction)As the new way is narrower, this attract people impliclty attracted by other with strong vision, thus making the bearer more charming.
Voting closedI’m wondering what to do for the brand placement.>1 - Take suggestions for the brand placementWhat does the [Brand of Cruel Intent] look like?>2 - Just let the QM decide>>5222785Pretty good symbol, it'll do fine. I'll just run with this since others don't really seem to mind one way or another. ---------------------Take suggestions for the brand placement>1 - Upper back>2 - Lower back>3 - Chest>4 - Stomach>5 - Face (Right)>6 - Face (Left)>7 - Neck>8 - Upper leg (Right)>9 - Upper leg (Left)>10 - Lower leg (Right)>11 - Lower leg (Left)>12 - Foot (Right)>13 - Foot (Left)>14 - Butt (Right)>15 - Butt (Left)>16 - Shoulder (Right)>17 - Shoulder (Left)>18 - Upper arm (Right)>19 - Upper arm (Left)>20 - Lower arm (Right)>21 - Lower arm (Left)>22 - Palm (Right)>23 - Palm (Left)>24 - Back of hand (Right)>25 - Back of hand (Left)>26 - Write-in
>>5222803Sticking to my left buttcheek choice.
>>5222803>15 - Butt (Left)somewhere that should always be nice and hidden. and make sure she is always reminded it is there when she sits down.
>>5222803>1 - Upper backSeems like a good spot, I suppose.
>>5222803>1 - Upper backEither this or the back of the Shoulder would do.
Need a tie-breaker vote
>>5222804Changing my buttcheek to ward upper back for the sake of untiebreaking.
>>5222803>15 - Butt (Left)
>>5222803>1 - Upper back
>>5222803>>1 - Upper back
>>5222803Voting closedUpper-back it is.
>>5222943“Put it on the shoulder,” said the Sadist, “Where you just removed the other one.”The hooded goblin dragged its stool back to the pillory and began to hover the heated metal over Grez’s shoulder.It then looked upwards towards the ceiling, waiting for confirmation.“Do it,” commanded the Sadist, “She will stay asleep.”The small torturer looked over Grez for a moment, wondering how he was going to apply a brand without waking up the woman.“Get on with it, man. No captive wakes unless the dungeon wants them to,” cried the Sadist.The Scholar cocked its head, “You don’t wanna wake her and hear her screams? I thought you liked that?””This is your first brand, isn’t it? I thought you would’ve wanted to get the most out of that,” it questioned.“I know,” said the Sadist, gritting his teeth, “But I can’t have her screaming anymore. I’ll have to find a new toy.”“Is this…compassion?” gasped the Scholar, holding its hands in front of its mouth, “Empathy?““Ew,” said the Sadist, its facing twisting in disgust, “No. I would’ve surely woken her, and enjoyed the shrieks and sobbing, if we had applied any other brand, but the [Brand of Cruel Intent] is mine.”The Sadist stepped forward and clasped its hands behind its back, looking down on Grez as she hung unconscious in the pillory, “She’s being remade in my image,” it said.Its face turned serious then, like a school teacher determined to correct a student that has gone astray, “And screaming is not part of that image.””Well,” it added, enjoying a brief chuckle, “Not her own.“The red-hot metal connected with Grez’s shoulder, sizzling.A searing pain shot through Grez as the branding iron hit her skin, yet she remained asleep and the sensation was lost on her.The Sadist let out an exaggerated, almost mournful sigh, “Pity.”The branding iron remained pressed to her green skin as the bloody circle underneath the pillory began to light up.Small drops of crimson began to creep their way up the pillory like leeches.Grez kicked and trashed in her sleep, but she was bound at every angle. Beads of sweat began to form on her skin.Eventually, the leech-like droplets made their way up the pillory and onto her skin, they gathered where the brand was being formed. Once there they seeped into her skin and the outline of a red, magical circle began to appear around the brand. Faint at first, but becoming more apparent with each leech.Once the circle fully formed, a tiny shockwave burst forth from the brand. Nothing much more than the puff of smoke that might appear above a witch’s cauldron, but a telling sign for those in the know.The hooded goblin turned his gaze towards the ceiling – and nodded.
>>5223015Surrounded by pulsing magic was a symbol that had a large dot in its centre, surrounded by two circles of increasing size. Three paths seemed to enter at the lower part of it, yet only one path come out on top. A symbol for those that enjoyed taking in people from various walks of life and twisted, manipulated, and hurt them until these people acted according to their will. Until only one path remained for them. The [Brand of Cruel Intent].Slowly, the magical circle faded to nothing, only the brand remained.“It is done,” stated the Sadist.“That was fascinating,” said the Scholar, “In a gruesome kind of way. I’d love to learn more about it.”“In due time,” promised the Sadist, lying.The Scholar’s presence hovered around in the [Branding Chamber], inspecting the new brand.”Hmm,” it said, “I don’t think she’ll be all that happy to find out we simply exchanged one mark for another. It’s probably better than the fate that awaited her, but still.”---------------------------What do you tell Grez about the mark?>1 - Be honest. You got rid of the [Contract Mark] and replaced it with one of your own choosing.>2 - You got rid of the [Contract Mark], but you don’t mention the new brand.>3 - Lie. Say you got rid of the effects of the [Contract Mark] by sabotaging it through burning.>4 - Lie. Say you got rid of the [Contract Mark] and replaced it with one that will help her.>5 - Other (Write-in)
>>5223016>"We rid you of your mark. Removing it completely would have put you and us in danger. So we overwrote it into something else. Something that will help you and i hope you can see it as something of a Sign of trust that we improved you instead of being just sloppy about it and maybe cripple you."
>>5223016>4 - Lie. Say you got rid of the [Contract Mark] and replaced it with one that will help her.A boon, a token of appreciation from the Dungeon.
>>5223020+1, good idea
>>5223016>4 - Lie. Say you got rid of the [Contract Mark] and replaced it with one that will help her.A token of our appreciation.
>>5223016>Lie. Say you got rid of the [Contract Mark] and replaced it with one that will help her.
Voting closed>>5223020I'll sorta go with this. Which is sorta this>4 - Lie. Say you got rid of the [Contract Mark] and replaced it with one that will help her.
>>5223174I'll have to postpone the update until tomorrow, it's getting lengthier than I thought.
>>5223212Are we tomorrow yet?
>>5223785We are indeed tomorrow, but I'm not sure when I'll get around to finishing the update as I have to prioritize today's D&D game.
>>5223813Ok, have fun with your game :)
“She won’t mind,” said the Sadist, “Because we’ll tell her we had no other choice, but went through great effort to get her a mark that’ll help her out in the long run. It’ll allow her to become an agent worthy of portraying my image.”“You know, you’ve been saying prideful things like ‘image' and what not, but right now she’s far from that. Look at her leg, it’s gruesome, that is,” said the Scholar, pinching his nose, “Your ‘agent' is going to be limping around the city like a ragged beggar. Can’t we just fix her leg?”The Sadist frowned, “I couldn’t do that even if I wanted to. It goes against who I am.”“That just seems like you’re hard-headed about it,” replied the Scholar, folding its arms.“Argh, you don’t understand!” cried the Sadist, momentarily losing his composure.“A few days ago when the scoutmaster overheard Ben and Grez talking she mentioned something about needing coins to see a healer. Maybe that’s an option. The dungeon won’t be healing her, you will have your self-important principles all sorted out,” tried the Scholar.“Fine,” replied the Sadist, voice drenched with sarcasm, “We’ll give her the [Ring of Vitality] and she can go and trade it for gold or coins or whatever.”The Scholar twitched, “I WOULD RATHER DIE!” he roared.“See,” cried the Sadist, pointing at the other ego, “NOW, you understand. I just can’t do it.”Red-faced, the Scholar tried hard to calm himself down, “Pfff. Alright, trying to give her some coins or whatever is not a bad idea though. Did those two we consumed earlier have anything on them?”The Sadist shrugged, “We ate them. There’s nothing left.”“Bugger,” said the Scholar, “Not even a single coin then?”“Everything on or with a person we devour gets turned into…” began the Sadist, then struggled for the next word.“Magic paste,” supplied the Scholar helpfully.“Magic paste. There’s no residue or leftovers,” said the Sadist, “We don’t have anything.”The Scholar thought about coins for a moment. Despite not have any at the moment, the dungeon seemed to know what they looked like. Perhaps it was because they had absorbed a few at some point in time,“Hmm,” said the Scholar, pinching his chin, “I suppose we can make some. I mean, we can make entire rooms and whatever. There’s a downright jungle in the dungeon. We should be able to manage some coins or a gemstone, right?”The Sadist relented, “I don’t see why not.”“Good, let’s release Grez and we’ll give her some coins,” said the Scholar with a smile on its face.
>>5223947The Scholar’s presence swam towards the [Jungle Room] and focused for a moment, it began to visualize the form of a coin in its mind and willed the dungeon to create them near the entrance. A short rumble later, a small stack of coins appeared near the entrance, “Hehey, there we go! Hah… Damn, I love the arcane.”It generated another stack of coins, simply because it could.The other ego was staring, clearly impatient.“Ehum,” said the Scholar, “I got the coins. We can release her.”[The Dungeon has released hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower']Bruised, bloody, and recently branded shoulder still bare, Grez was unceremoniously thrown out of the dungeon onto the cavern floor near the entrance. She rested in the dirt for a long moment, stuck in a daze. A few coins hit the ground next to her, clinking as they hit the stone – bouncing this way and that.The Sadist chuckled.“What?” replied the Scholar.“Come on,” the Sadist said, gesturing at Grez and the coins that surrounded her.“I don’t get it,” stated the Scholar.“Forget it,” said the Sadist with a sigh.To its surprise, the dungeon watched as the coins that lay scattered around the half-orc began to distort at the edges.Moments later, something seemed to break and the coin dissolved into a brief puff of smoke and glitter, much like the one that happen when a monster dies in one of the rooms. The smoke dragged itself back to the dungeon entrance like a wounded animal, disappearing into the ceiling once it had gone beyond the entrance.“That should’ve worked, no?” asked the Scholar.“It clearly didn’t,” answered the Sadist, brow furrowing and thinking things over, “I recall the dungeon once overhearing Grez and her friend talking about ‘endless wealth’ from the dungeon. There is a way.”“Instinct,” called the Sadist, “Tell me about valuable items and objects that can be taken outside the dungeon.”
>>5223949-------------------[Investigating 'Generating Objects'.]Query: Generating valuables, items, and coinsContext: To be taken outside the DungeonResponse:Every dungeon has complete control over its internal environment.This includes, but is not limited to, rooms with: ornate tiles, massive cliffs, giant pools, and massive structures.All this is accomplished through the dungeon’s innate abilities granted by the [Dungeon Core].Items or objects spawned by the dungeon will de-spawn when removed from the dungeon.These items are made manifest by the dungeon’s will and can only exist as long as the dungeon feeds magic to them in order to continue their existence.There is, however, a way around this.Items or objects that need to persist beyond the borders of the dungeon need to be self-sustaining and fully realized. This can be accomplished by expending Dungeon Points (DP). The amount of Dungeon Points (DP) required to fully realize an object depends on the object. Complicated objects (such as those consisting of valuable metals) generally require a greater density of magic and will cost more DP to realize.Once an item is realized using DP, it can not be converted back into DP. This is a one-way process.Dungeons that have been “Broken” will leak their daily allowance of Dungeon Points (DP) into their rooms by default and can therefor serve as gathering grounds for hostile creatures and resources can be taken out of the dungeon. Similar to how defeated monsters sill respawn, resources present within the dungeon will regenerate and become infused with magical essence over time, allowing them to be gathered more or less infinitely.-------------------
>>5223960“So, we can basically create anything as long as we are willing to pony-up the Dungeon Points for it?” said the Scholar, tapping his chin, “I wonder how many points we would have to spend to get enough money for limpy over there to get herself sorted. We can ask her, but she seems pretty out of it. ”The Sadist turned his attention to the goblins and called forth the [Goblin Raid Leader].Upon being called, the [Goblin Raid Leader] stood at attention, awaiting the next order.The Sadist pointed at the recently created pile of coins that were apparently dungeon-bound, “Throw coins at her until she wakes up.”After a few coins hit home, Grez finally gasped and pushed herself up from the ground.Confused, she scanned her surroundings for a moment before clutching at the shoulder were the [Contract Mark] had been. She no longer felt the delicate linework or the soft warmth, instead there was something else.She traced it with her fingers, but couldn’t make much of it. There was a shape to it, some kind of symbol, and it felt bumpy.Heavy footfalls rang through the [Jungle Room], the creature they belonged to revealed itself after brushing aside some large leaves – Chadaklin. “Welcome back,” he said, sporting a friendly smile.The half-orc looked up at the hobgoblin, her fingers tracing the brand, “What have you done to me?”Chadaklin stared for a moment, silent as words were whispered into its mind, “We made you better. The [Contract Mark] proved difficult to erase, so we had to overwrite it with something else. It’ll help you. It’s made to aid you on your new path. Cleansing an entire city requires a strong will, this will give you that. See it as a token of trust.”[The curse mark 'Brand of Cruel Intent' is influencing the behaviour of Grez Wildflower.]Grez’s face turned in disgust, “I don’t remember asking you to give me a new mark,” she said, “I hope you don’t think I owe you for that or anything. I’m glad the [Contract Mark] is gone, but I’m thinking I might’ve traded it for something worse.”Chadaklin folded his massive arms and raised an eyebrow, “Worse than a life of servitude when the contract expired?” he said, “Besides, it’ll help you with your new quest. We noticed how difficult it was for you to make the necessary sacrifices. This will help.”Grez’s brand lit up, the symbol turning a scalding red as if the brand was being applied anew.The half-orc hissed through clenched teeth, then let out a deep sigh.
>>5223963[The curse mark 'Brand of Cruel Intent' is influencing the behaviour of Grez Wildflower.]She waved a dismissive hand as she fought through the pain, eventually the glow dulled and the pain faded, “Yeah,” she said, “Helping the city is a great thing, but I can’t help but feel like we’ve been too ambitious. We should start a bit smaller.”Chadaklin didn’t seem to care either way, so he nodded in agreement, “Very well. The Lower District then?”Grez held up both of her hands with some space between them and brought them closer together, “Smaller.”The hobgoblin shrugged, “The neighbourhood?”The half-orc brought her hands even closer together.”The orphanage?” tried the hobgoblin, tiring off the game.Grez dropped one hand and instead opted to pinch together finger and thumb, “Smaller still.”“The orphan friends you grew up with?” said Chadaklin, anger beginning to slip into his expression.“No!” shouted Grez, “Me! We need to help me! I’m tired of suffering and being in pain and all that. When is it Grez’s turn? You know there is a saying that goes: ‘Before you can help others, you should help yourself’. Well, I’m gonna help me first. I mean, half the people out there would stab me and the other half would rob me. Some would do both! Some others would do worse! I’m in no hurry to help any of those freaks. My leg is fucked and I’m always in pain. Fuck everybody else for now, I’m gonna help me first.””Besides, all my friends are dead,” she added, like it was an after-thought.-------------------The Scholar eyed his fellow ego suspiciously, “Uh, what’s happening?”“A miracle,” replied the Sadist, sniffing.-------------------Chadaklin nodded sagely, “Sensible,” he said, “Since we’re establishing trust -- How can we help you?”Grez turned her head this way and that, “I noticed you threw coins at me earlier. Thanks for that, by the way,” she said, “I could use some money. Seems like you have some to spare.”Chadaklin briefly turned his attention to the ceiling, listening to the incoming messages.”Very well,” he said, “Sadly, we don’t know that much about the currencies of the city above. Tell us about it.”[The curse mark 'Brand of Cruel Intent' is influencing the behaviour of Grez Wildflower.]Grez pouted at the massive hobgoblin.“Proud little dungeon, so powerful and wise, yet basically a hermit. Unaware of even the most basic things,” said Grez mockingly, “I suppose I could tell you. If you asked really nicely.”Chadaklin, normally a picture of self-control, felt his fingers twitch, “You understand we’re trying to help you?”
>>5223967“Nah, you have an ulterior motive,” replied Grez, lazily staring at her leg, “I’m beginning to understand how you think.””How this,” she said, gesturing at general direction of the dungeon, “All seems to operate.”Chadaklin pinched the bridge of his nose, “Just tell us about the currencies in Duskmire, will you?”“I don’t know,” said Grez, scratching her arm, “I don’t feel like I really want to? Do you know what I feel like doing?”The massive hobgoblin sighed, “What?”“Well, my leg has been hurting like there’s no tomorrow. And judging by the puss there might, in fact, not be,” replied Grez, “I think I’m gonna be needing A LOT of gold to get it fixed, but Healers are soooo expensive. Little old me would never be able to afford it. I guess I’ll have to make some gold quickly – somehow."A wide grin appeared, she then winked at the hobgoblin, "Maybe by selling out the location of a certain dungeon?”Grez looked back at Chadaklin with a face that belonged to the morally bankrupt, somebody that would have no issue with handing over their very mother if they had something to gain from it, “Unless you have a better idea, of course?”Chadaklin didn’t immediately respond, opting to just stare at her.Grez scrunched up her face, making a show of thinking very hard, before her eyes went wide and she held up a finger, “Oh! I know!” she cried, her facing turning serious, “Give me back my fucking ring. That thing is worth at least 400 gold pieces. Yeah, I didn’t forget.”“Oh, that’s 4000 coins, by the way,” said Grez, giving a small nod with her head, “I know the numbers are hard for you and it’s a biiiiig, scary world out there and you enjoy being a recluse, but here’s a free lesson: One coin is a tenth of a gold coin. Normal coins are basically a mixture of all kinds of metals, among which a small amount of gold, and are, shocker shocker, worth less than a full gold piece. One coin, normal coin – keep up, gets you a bread or a beer. If people need smaller coins than that then they clip them,” she continued, making a scissors gesture with her hand, “We call those half-coins or quarter coins.”“Well, I said the lesson was free, but you’re gonna give me about 400 gold worth for it, so,” she said, laughing, “Maybe not free. I’m gonna need at least, like, 200 gold coins to get my leg fixed after all.”
>>5223969------------------The Sadist roared, “Gods! She’s insufferable. So demeaning!”“A miracle,” said the Scholar, smiling smugly.“I’ll get her back for this, you just watch, but it’s too early to have our cover blown,“ said the Sadist, gritting his teeth, “I don’t suppose you want to part with the [Ring of Vitality]?”[The personality trait 'Magical Hoarder' is influencing the behaviour of the Scholar.][The personality trait 'Magical Hoarder' is influencing the behaviour of the Scholar.][The personality trait 'Magical Hoarder' is influencing the behaviour of the Scholar.]”RRRRRRRRRREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE”The Sadist frowned, “Figures.”“Instinct,” yelled the Sadist, “How much realized gold coins can we create for a single Dungeon Point?”------------------[Investigating 'Generating Objects'.]Query: Amount of gold coinsContext: To be taken outside the DungeonResponse:Even though small in size, gold is a rare metal that is difficult to realize.Roughly a hundred gold coins can be realized for one (1) Dungeon Point (DP).------------------[Total amount of Monster Points (MP) remaining: 5][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 6]>1 - Give Grez 400 gold coins as a substitute for the [Ring of Vitality] (4 DP)>2 - Give Grez 200 gold coins so she can go fix her leg (2 DP)>3 - Promise to loan Grez 200 gold coins that she can pay back by bringing more people here phrased as a business arrangement. Tell her she’ll make some gold for each person she brings. (2 DP)>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)>5 - Call her bluff, risk getting your location revealed, give her nothing. She’ll likely die or lose her leg without the gold.>6 - Other (Write-in)
>>5223970That's it for now. I'll be back after D&D, after about 4 hours.
>>5223967I wonder if Chadaklin could reach out of the dungeon to squish Grez Head. Not that i want him to do that but i would be interested to know if that would be possible.And the Sadist is proud. I am so proud of him. He is learning.>>5223969and damn. She should really not piss of Chadaklin. If she pisses him off to much she might not make it out with just a flower the next time she wants something from the dungeon.>>5223970>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)So Chadaklin rolls against Grez? Does he have Modifications?
>>5223972Have fun QM. I know that i will have fun tortur- I mean challenging my own players fleeing from a massive magical explosion
>>5223970>- Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)
Damn, this instant of a change and this impactful of a change. I thought the mark would slowly seep in to her attitude over a day or two, but she just came out of the Dungeon all sassy like she owns the world. This might've been a mistake, it is unlikely that we will be in a position to form a consensual Contract with her now or even get her to enter the Dungeon again. The dream of Grez as a Hero Unit seems to have died too young, how sad.Hopefully if she throws a schmuck or two in to the Dungeon she'll get a taste of the sadistic pleasure of seeing people be devoured and will stick around with us. Otherwise we need to work on a contingency plan to deal with her.>>5223970>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)Do not mention we have a way to alter her apperance. Hopefully she can be inticed to enter the Dungeon if she's attracted too much heat topside (under the guise of us wanting to protect an asset) or as a reward for bringing us more growth fodder. Then we can take her out or remove the Brand if we so wish and try to find a way for her to accept a contract.
>>5223970>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)>Definitely mention the appearance. Didn't think the Brand acted that fast, damn. At this rate, she will be a complete scumbag in no time!We are gonna need to rope her in quickly with something, before her head gets too big. We should try to form an agreement that she lures people here and we pay her for it, but in exchange, she stays quiet. With any luck, her greed (and newfound cruelty) will push her to work for us and it will all be dandy. Ideally she agrees to a contract mark stipulating that she cannot mention the dungeon in any capacity, but gets money for each person she brings to us. Definitely mention that we can change her appearance. It gives her another reason to work with us, instead of trying to blackmail us for money.Worst case scenario... she doesn't know we have a monster that can exit the dungeon.
>>5223970>>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)>>Definitely mention the appearance.
>>5223970>>5224047Actually, I'll add the following to my vote:>6 - Other (Write-in)>Say that we give her 200 gold coins because she brought two people. If she brings more, she will receive more. Get started on the sales pitch early. Give her something to think about.
>>5223970Ammending vote from >>5223975to include >>5224058
>>5223970Well it seems like we can pay her pretty well given we get about 5dp per level 1 person with 3 from the fight and 2 from consuming. Giving 1 to grez seems like a good idea>6 - Other (Write-in)>Pay her 200 for the 2 people she brought in and to fix her leg.>offer her a contract where we pay her 100 gold per person she brings us that we can defeat1 - She must obey the orders of the Dungeon2 - She will be payed 100 gold in return for each person she feeds to the dungeon that can be easily defeated by the dungeon or specifically requested by the dungeon.3 - She is prohibited from revealing the Dungeon's intent, only luring victims. 4 - She must hide her nature as a agent of the dungeon unless ordered otherwise by the Dungeon5 - She must protect and help the Dungeon and must try to rescue them should they be endangered6 - She is prohibited from intentionally harming the Dungeon, directly or indirectly7 - She must always directly tell the truth to the dungeon, unless ordered otherwise by the dungeon.8 – In case of the contract dungeons incapacitation, she is to prioritize the recovery of the dungeon. 9 - In case of the dungeon's death, she is freed from all responsibilities unless the contract is inherited by a specified party. 10 - Possession of the contract does not make one the contract holder, they must either be the original, or have inherited it.11 - There will be a 15 minute break for 4-6 consecutive hours of work or a 30 minute break for more than 6 consecutive hours.12 - For every 40 hours worked in service to the dungeon 4 hours of vacation time is afforded and may be stored up to to 80 hours.13 - vacation time must be approved by the dungeon and requested a week beforehand.14 - contract terms may be changed with the consent of both parties after it is signed.something like this can probably be refined better
>>5223970>Give her 300 Gold coins>This is what the one you brought were worth. More people, more gold, or other goods, for you.>Ask Instinct about creation of magic items
>>5223970hey QM if we have in the contract that she is considered a creature of the dungeon will that stop her from being considered a hostile creature?
>>5224149>hey QM if we have in the contract that she is considered a creature of the dungeon will that stop her from being considered a hostile creature?Rather than a "dungeon creature", external creatures can become "dungeon allies" at which point they would be considered non-hostile. But for that to happen the creature needs to either fully trust the dungeon or be somehow magically compelled to never harm the dungeon like through a contract or a some form of charm / mind control spell. No more updates today. I'll update again tomorrow.I'm gonna head to bed somewhat earlier today because I'm a Formula 1 pleb and I gotta get up early tomorrow because the race is in Australia.
>>5224239Good Night, sleep tight.Ok guys, now QM is asleep...How about bribe Grez with "Dungeon Delving" as long as she is not allied?We say we'll give her extra recompense as far as she can delve in ourselfs, so we actually train her and farm point while building trust in giving her back a part of the Invasion DP?
>>5224245not really doable due to sadist. We will need to hurt her or brand her again each time. >>5224239ok that works well enough the current contract I made should satisfy that I think.updated contract 1 - She must obey the orders of the Dungeon2 - She will be payed 100 gold in return for each person she feeds to the dungeon that can be easily defeated by the dungeon or specifically requested by the dungeon.3 - She is prohibited from revealing the Dungeon's intent, only luring victims.4 - She must hide her nature as a agent of the dungeon unless ordered otherwise by the Dungeon5 - She must protect and help the Dungeon and must try to rescue them should they be endangered6 - She is prohibited from intentionally harming the Dungeon, directly or indirectly7 - She must always directly tell the truth to the dungeon, unless ordered otherwise by the dungeon.8 – In case of the contract dungeons incapacitation, she is to prioritize the recovery of the dungeon.9 - In case of the dungeon's death, she is freed from all responsibilities unless the contract is inherited by a specified party.10 - Possession of the contract does not make one the contract holder, they must either be the original, or have inherited it.11 - There will be a 15 minute break for 4-6 consecutive hours of work or a 30 minute break for more than 6 consecutive hours.12 - For every 40 hours worked in service to the dungeon 4 hours of vacation time is afforded and may be stored up to to 80 hours.13 - vacation time must be approved by the dungeon and requested a week beforehand.14 - Either party may end this contract with one weeks notice15 - If the contract is ended a nondisclosure agreement will be enforced16 - The nondisclosure agreement states the signee may not willingly spread information about the dungeon 17 - contract terms may be changed with the consent of both parties after it is signed.
>>5224245Not dungeon delving, as that gives Grez more information about us if she decides to sell us out. Paying her 1DP's worth of coin to enter the dungeon once a day however, to be defeated and inflicted with a random brand that we will then detach from her and add to our repitore. We get 1DP and 1MP per day and access to new Brands while Grez gets a steady income that she can use to pay for lodging and food.>>5224254Bruh, we're playing a quest not starting a Labour Union. At most we need the first 5 and the 7th of those clauses (the 6th clause will not let her lure victims to the dungeon since they could potentially harm us, however unlikely that may be. And mandate breaks? Vacation time? Non-disclosure agreements? Giving HER the option to end the Contract at will? Seriosly?), but preferably we achieve total control over Grez similarly to how we control our spawned minions. Hopefully we can find a random brand that enslaves people without the need for their consent so we can bypass the Slave Mark we have now.
>>5224254>contractYeah there is no way she is gonna agree to some of those. Especially the first rule. What kind of dumbass would agree to that? In the end, the important rules are:>Cannot reveal the location and existence of the dungeon in any way, directly or indirectly.>Will receive gold coins for each invader brought to us that we killThe specifics need to be hammered out so it can't be abused, but that is basically it. If she cannot reveal our location, she is no longer a threat to us and we can take it slow with bringing her to our side more permanently. For what it's worth, if we ever need a nuclear option, we just need her consent. And it's been established that we can torture those we capture, on top of holding them indefinitely. We can probably force a contract on her, it's just that she would not cooperate willingly then, which wouldn't be optimal.
>>5224289well I was thinking grez would be more likely to say yes if there were some benefits. and its not like an eternal trap which was the whole issue with the other brand so saying your stuck with me forever would probably provoke the same "I need to do anything to get out of this situation" response.I mean really we are hoping to treat grez as more of an employee as I don't think we are going to get like mindless servant. So just change 6 to directly and remove indirectly? I want a way to prevent her from just grabbing the largest adventuring party to kill us.>>5224320well revealing the location of the dungeon is kind of important for luring people in. also what other rules then 1 would they reject?so overall remove rule 1change 3 to Cannot reveal the location and existence of the dungeon in any way, directly or indirectly unless for the purposes of rule 2change 6 to remove indirectlyand if you all want I can remove 11-16
>>5224392>well revealing the location of the dungeon is kind of important for luring people in.Not necessarily. Consider how she lured the two sailors in, tell them there is treasure down there, and let them find the dungeon themselves, then walk in. I mean, if you want to be really strict with the definition, then technically that is indirectly revealing the dungeon's location, but for the most part a rule like that is necessary so she doesn't pull "do X or else I tell everyone there is a dungeon here" every 5 seconds. We will just have to add an exception for people she is luring in. Other rules that are not good ideas are 5 and 8. What could she even do to help if the dungeon is "in danger"? If invaders have reached the core, she is not going to be much help. Also she is kinda going to be hard to replace, so frankly between a breaking attempt and her getting shanked by Ben or some other invaders, she is better off getting out of dodge. All the rules about breaks and vacation are also pointless. She brings people when she brings people, she cannot be expected to work non-stop. She will have to stagger bringing people lest she attracts too much heat on herself. I would think of her less like an employee, and more like a contractor. She brings in people, she gets payed. Nothing more, nothing less. Also, the contract is terminated or modified if both parties agreed. No ending the contract by one side. That is just asking for a disaster. With any luck, she will not gather a really strong party because we are her source of income. We just have to show her first-hand that working with us is lucrative and she won't want to pull funny shit like that anyway.
>>5224447you have a good point, the lure of treasure under the orphanage was a good pull without stating where we are.>1 - She will be payed 100 gold in return for each person she feeds to the dungeon that can be easily defeated by the dungeon or specifically requested by the dungeon.>2 - She cannot reveal the location and existence of the dungeon in any way, directly or indirectly except for the purposes of rule 1>3 - She must hide her nature as a agent of the dungeon unless ordered otherwise by the Dungeon>4 - She is prohibited from intentionally harming the Dungeon, directly>5 - She must always directly tell the truth to the dungeon, unless ordered otherwise by the dungeon.>6 - In case of the dungeon's death, she is freed from all responsibilities unless the contract is inherited by a specified party.>7 - Possession of the contract does not make one the contract holder, they must either be the original, or have inherited it.>8 - contract terms may be changed with the consent of both parties after it is signed.How's this then. I still feel like 2 will gimp her ability without the exception but I do agree having her yell it out as a threat would be an issue. Hopefully the magic contract will do well enough with rule 1 attached to 2.
>>5223970>>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill),>"You were on a timer before, close to becoming a slave all the way into your bone marrow. That's now gone, but too bad, you are on a new timer now".If you want your leg fixed, and hopefully not lose it, you better give us more people, a hundred gold coins each."Do we remember Grez that her leg is our fault? Nah
>>5223970>4 - Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill), but still lend her 200 gold coins afterwards to heal her leg. Optionally mention you could change her appearance. (2 DP)> The 200 Gold Coins are for luring the sailors to the Dungeon successfully, 100 each.This establishes a working relationship, the pricepoint for it, and gives incentive to Grez to continue working with the Dungeon because if the Dungeon gets destroyed/core damaged she goes back to begging/slutting/whatever. If we arent gaining DP/MP shes not getting paid.I respect the long drawn out contracts but holy fuck this is a 4chan quest yall are making this too goddamn complicated.Work with me here, Grez is already being influenced by the Sadist Brand after being awake for 5 minutes. The Brand will need time to fully rewrite her personality. We just need her working with us long enough for her motivation to be converted from Money to Sadism.Again, this is a 4chan quest not a multiyear Vampire The Masquerade game. Id wager at this rate 3, maybe 4 parties successfully defeated for the Brand to take hold and for her to embrace the Sadism.----I am proposing this path because other anons really want to see Grez working with/for the Dungeon, with the end goal of Grez possibly becoming the Dungeon level 2 Boss. We need her alive, healthy, and hopefully gaining experience ( through social deceit/bargaining ) to reach this goal. I propose this as the path to get there.Optional/Discuss - Give her 10 additional Gold Coins so that she can afford to buy clothing/food/round of drinks to better sell the image that she found an easy dungeon prime for the picking to a weak party. This could potentially be risky. Counterpoint, those that know her / have seen her with the busted leg are going to be suspicious of how she afforded healing anyways; so this path lets her explain it away as Successful Dungeon Hunt/Kill. She still needs to be careful picking her marks because the dungeon needs to be able to win to reduce the number of people that are aware the Dungeon exists.
>>5224833>Also we can scatter a few coins in the branding room, to incentize greed and Vietnam Backtrack.
>>5224833I still think a contract is far more helpful then some ambiguous situation where she doesn't know if we will keep paying her building resentment especially with the way the sadist love to toy with her. We gave her a spine with this brand we should at least try to respect it. The contract is basically assuring us that she wont fuck us and assuring her that we will pay her no two ways around it. It doesn't matter so much if the brand isn't in full effect as it is getting her attached to us in a way that doesn't potentially jeopardize us. We are still weak, if she feeds us like 5 dudes for the cash and then goes to a large party we are fucked.The way that the contract mark works as well it will be better to have an official contact and even better a blood bound contact so we are bound to pay her as assurance we are on her side and preventing any shenanigan's from our split minds refusing to pay her as we will be magically compelled too. The important bit is the wording "Said recipient will be forced to magically comply with the contents of the contract when able or forced to perform certain acts when in breach of contract.All of the terms, clauses, procedures, and protocols, can be found in the contents of the contract and should be carefully scrutinized."If we want to use a contract mark we probably should write it out like this so we don't get fucked over later.
Voting closedI've read through all the comments and I've concluded the following: >Attempt to persuade Grez by reminding her there are still people out there looking for her and she’ll be dead on the morrow if nothing is done (DC12 /w advantage because of Chadaklin’s ‘Silver Tongue' skill) (2 DP)>Give her 200g to heal her leg, but mention that the 200g are a reward for bringing in the two sailors and with more rewards forthcoming if she lures in more people >Mention the possibility of a contract that would enforce this (Exact terms to be determined)>Mention that the dungeon has an ability to change her appearance (2 in favour, 1 against. Rest made no mention)>>5223975>So Chadaklin rolls against Grez? Does he have Modifications?No, but I've lowered the DC to 12 to take into account any modifications he might've had. If I start handing out stats for monsters I'm gonna have to keep doing it and I'd rather not.
>>5225337So persuasion, she does get money BUT it is payment. If she wants more she has to keep hustling...I want to impose her a penalty. She has to give up something for healing her leg. How about we tell her that she should use that money to lure more people in? That it is an "investment" instead of going right away to fix her leg; that we are testing her ambition and resilience.>Do you want to spend that money and heal your leg, or do you want to carry on for another day and reap greater rewards?
The Dungeon decided it wasn’t just going to give in to these demands.Grez’s new brand seemed to have provided her with an attitude.One in dire need of adjustment. She just needed to be reminded how fickle her position really is.---------Constantly having to look down on Grez, both in the literal as well as figurative sense, was taking a toll on Chadaklin’s back, he corrected his posture and stood his full height, he held up his hands as if the victim of a robbery, “Oh, no. You really have us now,” he said, every word oozing sarcasm, “I suppose we better give you all the gold you want.”“Yes,” replied Grez in uncertain tones, “And hurry up with it.”[Two (2) Dungeon Points (DP) have been spend to generate and realize two hundred (200) gold coins.][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 4]The hobgoblin lazily gestured towards to the ground next to him and gold coins began appearing rapidly – one by one.They formed towers of ten, the chimes of gold coins stacking filled the cavern.“Two hundred gold pieces,” stated Chadaklin, “What do you plan to use them for?”Grez eyed him suspiciously, “Like I said, I’ll have my leg fixed. Get rid of the pain. So I can walk and run again.”After lightly tapping the side of his head like he had made a mistake, Chadaklin spoke, “Of course, you’ll be needing those legs of yours,” he said, picking up two coins from a stack and letting them fall back down, “To outrun the rest of your problems.”The half-orc frowned and tried to retort, but the large hobgoblin continued.“How long will it be, I wonder, before the moneylenders find you? Using the [Contract Mark] is just a way to find you. Not the only way. Thank you for the lesson on currencies, by the way. One gold piece is worth ten coins? That sure does make five hundred gold pieces sound like an enormous sum. Not an amount somebody would easily forget about, I imagine,” he said, picking up some coins and holding them between his fingers – making them seem tiny in comparison, “Also, I couldn’t help but notice that nearly all the invaders up until his point have been human. Not a lot of half-orcs to be found in the city of Duskmire, I take it?”Grez felt her control on the situation slip, she swallowed, “You made your point,” she said, flashing a smile of fake confidence, “Maybe I’ll just skip town after this. There’s plenty of other places. I just need you to hand over that gold, as was the deal.”Chadaklin held up the coins between his fingers, “There is no deal. There has never been deal,” he said, letting the silence stretch out for a long moment, “But there can be.”
>>5226478The half-orc laughed, but it was one of near desperation, “What? You want me to reveal your location to the world then? What’s the gold for if not to buy my silence?” she said, wincing as pain flared up her leg – a pain she might be forced to deal with for a good while longer. She wrinkled her nose, the smells wafting from the jungle suddenly seemed sickly sweet.“It is payment,” said the hobgoblin flatly, “It seems like you’re going through a bit of an episode right now and we won’t fault you for it. You’ll be needing that confidence in the days to come. This gold is part of our earlier arrangement. We’re in this together. Although it seems like you might’ve forgotten that.”“So you’re just gonna give me the gold?” asked Grez, puzzlement clear on her face.“Yes,” said Chadaklin, “This and much more. One hundred gold pieces for each individual you manage to lure into the dungeon. This gold is payment for the Sutherland brothers you brought in earlier.”The hard image Grez had been projecting crumbled, “Sutherland?” she said, “Was that their last name? How do you know that?”Chadaklin noted the change, “It was,” he said, “I know that and much more. You’d be wise not to underestimate the capabilities of the dungeon. Our methods are many and varied. Remember the journal? How did you think we acquired that? There are few places were the claws of the dungeon cannot reach.”Grez’s brand flared up, as it sizzled her earlier bravado seemed to return once more, but she chose to stand in silence – teeth gritting.“You seem unstable,” observed the hobgoblin, returning his attention back to the coins, occasionally looking up, “But don’t worry. We care about you, Grez. We’ve mentioned this time and time again. We are the only one that cares for you. Don’t burn the final bridge and leave yourself stranded amidst the flames. We can both profit from this partnership. We could even make it official through a contract. We can even change your appearance, make you disappear. All this and so much more.”His gaze fell upon the half-orc then, “All we require from you is to be a loyal dog that doesn’t attempt to bite the hand that feeds it.”---------------------This is a bit of a weird roll. Might not end up doing these again in the future. It'll likely be HOSTILE_CREATURE vs MONSTER saving throws again in the future. This roll would've been something like Grez rolls versus Chadaklin using her wisdom (insight) modifier, but with disadvantage because of the "Silver Tongue" skill. But I can't very well change the nature of the roll after it has been voted on. ---------------------Need a DC12 intimidation roll for Chadaklin. This roll is made with advantage because of the "Silver Tongue" skill So: 2d20Please include the following message:Rolling for Chadaklin against Grez
Rolled 8, 3 = 11 (2d20)>>5226479Rolling for Chadaklin against Grez
Rolled 6, 15 = 21 (2d20)>>5226479Rollin for Chadaklin against Grez
>>5226485Truly our Dungeon is a cursed existence. A 70% probability of landing a 12 or above on the two rolls and we don't even get close both times.
>>5226490>>5226518This is just the nature of this Quest. Anything important always goes wrong... Its like a Law.... if i ever find that Murphy guy that penned that law i will give him a piece of my mind about applying it to quests as well.
>>5226490Being the dungeon is suffering, it seems.
>>5226485>>5226486>>5226490FUCK IS THIS BULLSHIT
I guess grez is just gonna die in a ditch somewhere we gave her an excellent deal shes just dumb for not taking it at this point.
>>5226584With any luck, she will just leave temporarily, then eventually realise that we gave her a very good deal and come back to earn more cash.Hopefully.
>>5226485>>5226486Damn. We would had need a double advantage to pull that out.
>>5226618Triple*, the 15 was on the fourth roll. I can't wait to fail our next important roll even with bonuses.
>>5226584I guess it's in character with her making bad life choices.
>>5226603if she does not die then we can hope that at least she will keep her mouth shut. If not... well we will send the Goblin after her and just shank her and if that is not possible. Well we will sell her out.And if she does come crawling back... well the price we demand will have increased
>>5226626Yeaaaaaah you have a good point. Honestly i think it was the sadist mark that fucked us here. Probably would have been better off with a random.
Time to have our scout ambush her and kill her. Cut our losses.
>>5226478Damn grez!!! HMMM half-orc needs correction!!! Damn sassy kid
The two stared at each other. Long enough that it made some of the goblins uncomfortable.“Give me my fucking money,” said Grez eventually, “Before I change my mind and rat you out anyway.”Shrugging, Chadaklin handed over the gold, “You know that saying about snitches?”The ground underneath the coins shifted and was moved towards the entrance and then toppled towards the cavern floor, sending the stacks of coins sliding over the cavern floor.“Yeah,” said Grez, pocketing a few gold pieces, “Snitches get riches.””I’ll be back for the rest later,” she said, “I’ll use a few coins to get myself a solid backpack and some other supplies.”She felt confident now, more than ever before. Bartering the price of the healing down a bit wasn’t gonna be a problem.“Better spend all that gold quickly,” said Chadaklin, “You’ll have little use for it when the Blackwood brothers track you down and find out that you weaselled your way out of the contract.””That is, of course, if Ben doesn’t kill you first,” he added.Grez gave him a look of utter contempt, “Fuck you. You know, I was almost tempted to take your offer. Turn me into a new person, one that doesn’t have to worry about all the shit Grez had to deal with. Somebody that doesn’t have fangs or green skin. Somebody normal,” she said, “But in the end I just can’t trust you. I asked you to remove the [Contract Mark] and you gave my a different one instead.”A mark she wouldn’t even been able to get removed.She had heard of powerful, cleansing magic that could rid people of things like this, but, unlike basic healing spells, magic like that was only available in the upper district. A place that wasn’t particularly fond of people originating from the barbaric races. It also carried a cost with it that made the price of healing her leg pale in comparison.Grez took a deep breath. Before anything else, she was going to have to get her leg healed.She pocketed a few more coins and set out towards the surface.The walk towards the surface was difficult, even harder than the trip towards the dungeon had been.Her leg ached with a fury she hadn’t even considered possible.She only made it to the bottom of the cellar stairs before she slumped down against the wall, panting.The ground was strangely moist and filled with debris from where the wall had toppled inwards.
>>5226658The dungeon’s offer had been tempting, but something about being subservient to something like that, subservient to anything for that matter, just rubbed her the wrong way.There was also the fact that it had been the dungeon that had mangled her leg and devoured her friends to consider.She had watched them die. Myrin had already been decapitated, but both Myrin and Rollen had been squeezed to a pulp.Grez remembered the way Rollen’s cheeks had puffed up and his eyes had bulged before he died – a giggle escaped her.Immediately, she clasped her hand over her mouth.“It’s the pain,” she said, using the wall to get up.She took a look at the staircase leading up and braced herself.Several agonizing minutes later, she finally made it to the orphanage courtyard.A murder of crows sat on the ruined mansion, stared at her, and cawed.Darkness reigned all around. Judging by the sky, dawn was still hours away.It would be a long while before any shops or temples opened.She could always make a lot of noise and see if that woke up anyone inside the stores of temple, but that carried with it a risk she wasn’t sure she was desperate enough to take.The half-orc sat down on the tall grass that surrounded the orphanage dorm and began picking at her bandages.A repulsive stench hit her the moment she peeked under a bandage, she laughed, “Fuck.”Grez had waited far too long, she sighed.Maybe she was desperate enough after all.-------------Just trying out some additional kinds of rolls to make the story more interactive.This is in an attempt to break up what would’ve been another 2000 word update.Need a DC15 Constitution roll for Grez Wildflower. (-1)Success = She will tough it out and wait for morning.Failure = She will be unable to bear the pain and risk detection by knocking and yelling outside buildingsFailure by 5 or more = The risk of losing her leg will push her towards despair and even higher risksFailure by 10 or more = Extremely desperate measuresPlease include the following message:Rolling for Grez Wildflower to withstand the physical and mental torment of her festering leg.
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>5226661Rolling for Grez Wildflower to withstand the physical and mental torment of her festering leg.
>>5226669Oh boy, let's see what she considers "extremely desperate measures"
>>5226669>with -1, it's a failure by exactly 10Hahahahahahaha FUCK
>>5226669Critical Constitution failure---------------------The crows observed her as she sat between the tall grass.It sure was a chilly night. Her skin felt cold and clammy.The pain from her foot shot up from her leg and she flinched, clutching her gut.Staring into the distance with a mixture of fear and disbelief, she toppled over.The crows went into a frenzy, cawing and clicking.“What’s happening?” she managed, wheezing, “it’s my leg that should be hurting.”Sweat began to collect on her skin. Her pupils dilated.Grez tried to stand, but was overcome by a spell of dizziness that send her back towards the ground.She lay in the grass, breathing heavily, “Ah,” she whispered, in a moment of almost serene detachment, “I’m dying.”No self-respecting doctor worth his salt would call this region their home and the nearest temple was at least a couple of blocks away. Grez wanted to scream, to cry out for help, but she could scarcely breathe.Her limbs twitched, as if they wanted to tremble involuntarily.-----------------Upon the endless, withered plains, a pale rider looked towards the galaxy-speckled sky.He pulled the reins of his gaunt horse. Heeding the call.-----------------The focus came and went from her eyes, she could see some people in the far distance.There, at the tavern. A place that was only a few hundred feet away, but might as well have been miles out.Grez lay there between the tall grass and under the cover of darkness.A bout of confusion swept over here, her head lulling from side-to-side.Eventually facing towards the dorms and what hid underneath.She remembered how the wounds she had sustained in the dungeon had healed after her capture.”No,” she croaked, tears rimming her eyes, “No, no, no…”-----------------There was the sound of somebody falling down a staircase.-----------------Her head spun, blood ran from her mouth, and she spat out two teeth.Luckily, a brick had broken her fall when she had tumbled down the stairs.The pain was everywhere now, her bloodstream had spread the infection throughout the body.Followed by sepsis. Grez crawled, dragging her battered form through the cellar and onto into the caverns beyond it.What would’ve been a fortune a mere week ago was now a nuisance, she used what little strength she had to shove aside the gold pieces that lay scattered in front of the dungeon and were preventing her from getting her hands down to crawl forward.The goblinoids watched from their hiding spots as the half-orc hauled herself into the dungeon.Grez gasped for air, “P-please,” she said, as foam began to form at the corners of her mouth, "Help me!"[One hostile creatures has entered the dungeon][Hostile creature “Grez Wildflower” has recently been bested and harvested by a dungeon.][Amount of harvestable material diminished. Half the usual rewards will be gained.]
>>5226800Name: Grez WildflowerType: Humanoid (Half-orc)Level: 1Health: 1Strength: -1Dexterity: +1Constitution: -5Wisdom: +2Intelligence: +1Charisma: +3Curse Mark: Brand of Cruel IntentThe recipient becomes more assertive, controlling, and takes delight in suffering of others.Furthermore, they become more charming and persuasive when it comes to tempting others to act according to their will.-------------“Well, that’s something,” noted the Scholar, curiously observing as Grez began to spasm, “Septic shock or maybe a seizure soon?”He turned to his fellow ego, “Doesn’t look like she’ll last long in a fight. What should we do?””Also half-points? What a scam,” he added, folding his arms.--------------Getting a little ahead of things here, but this will be my last update today and I figured this would be a better discussion point than a single constitution roll which she will likely fail.>1 - Consume hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' and gain 2 [Monster Points]>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]>3 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and then release her>4 - Apply a “Brand” to Grez Wildflower and keep her in captivity>5 - Remove a “Brand” from “Grez Wildflower”>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping her>7 - Propose a [Contract Mark] after helping her, assuming an increased amount of trust>8 - Release Grez Wildflower without applying a “Brand” (Triggers [Sadism] trait)>9 - Other (Write-in)
>>5226805>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping herSame deal as before, but after we find some way to save her life (??), she gets 25 gold per person brought to the dungeon instead of 100. Also some others had some contract stuff, so probably include that as well to keep her bound to us.
>>5226805>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping herWow, this was what I was hoping would happen. I was expecting far worse....Not too sure what we can really do here though.After all this effort, it would be a waste to consume her. We don't really have a brand that can help here either.We can probably get her to agree to a contract, which is great, but we can't heal her or anything. Are the people we keep in captivity kept in stasis? If so, then I guess we can keep her in captivity until we can heal her or something.Any other ideas?
>>5226805Can we heal her op? If so yes>6 propose a [contract mark] before helping her.
Instinct, what sorts of actions can we take with dungeon allies? Can we use MP to heal/augment them?
Wait a sec, what if we made her an official monster of the dungeon? That should regen her right? Is that even possible?
>>5226805>>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]meh
>>5226805>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping her>If she accepts, conjure a healing potion and medicine using Dungeon Points (DP)Contract mark in exchange for saving her life. That's an offer Grez can't refuse in the slightest. Now, here's the hard part: how the fuck do we heal her? We can't reveal our location to outsiders that actually know what they're doing, and the dungeon can only brand, consume, or cripple any intruders it captures. And at this point Grez would die from a stiff breeze. I remember instinct saying that we can manifest whatever we want in exchange for coughing up Dungeon Points, so maybe we can give her a healing potion so she isnt at death's door and medicine to stave off the sepsis. If we pull this off, she will be in our debt (even though we jacked up her leg in the first place).
The golden question is how many DP to make a healing potion?
>>5226814>Same deal as before, but after we find some way to save her life (??)>but we can't heal her or anything.>Can we heal her op? If so yes>Now, here's the hard part: how the fuck do we heal her? Ah, that's on me then. I thought this was clear this was always a thing the dungeon could do. I normally wouldn't point things out like this, but I feel like this has been a failure to communicate things properly on my part. ----Over the course of this quest people have been stabbed, maimed, beaten, or worse, but had the option to be released. People like Rollen got stabbed, but were conscious and coherent after their capture. From shortly after Grez was released after her scuffle with Ben>Watching Grez limp, the Scholar looked remorseful, “Can’t we help her somehow?”>“No!” spat the Sadist, folding its arms, “I worked hard on that.”>“But I noticed people get restored when we defeat and capture them, yes?” asked the Scholar. >“Yes, but only up until I get my hands on them, that is.” replied the Sadist.>The Scholar looked at the Sadist like he should’ve been the one with ‘crazed’ in its title, “Can you not?” >“No. I can’t not.” replied the Sadist adamantly, “It defines who I am. I torment things.” >“But you’re not tormenting any of the goblins,” said the Scholar.>“Of course not. They’re part of me. Part of us.” said the Sadist, “Self-harm is for masochists.” >“So, if we bind her to us somehow, make her part of us, you won’t break her bones anymore?” tried the Scholar carefully.>“…I would consider it,” said the Sadist, looking away. From the most recent update>She remembered how the wounds she had sustained in the dungeon had healed after her capture.>”No,” she croaked, tears rimming her eyes, “No, no, no…”Magically restoring somebody back to full health has always been something the dungeon could do. If it wasn't then "Releasing" people (if you hadn't had the Sadist corruption) would mean invaders would die on your doorstep.The problem at the moment is making Grez an ally so that the "Sadist" would consider restoring her. >>If she accepts, conjure a healing potion and medicine using Dungeon Points (DP)Would actually be possible as well.
>>5226805>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping herWell Grez here we are again. You want our help. Here we are. We would have been more willing to help before you were so disrespectful. Should we perform and amputation and then heal her. Or try our luck with feeding her a healing potion to reduce the pain she is in before putting her into storage until morning.I would not spend any real resources on her until we can confirm we can help her inside of us.
>>5227066huh okay. would forcing her into a contract work for the Sadist considering her an ally? With the terms laid out here >>5224540i would consider it so. But you are the ultimate arbiter for that if the Sadist would consider those Terms satisfactory.
>>5227072The terms from >>5224540 would work, with slight adjustment. See also >>5224239>4 - She is prohibited from intentionally harming the Dungeon, directlyThis would effectively make her non-hostile. Which should be good enough. You could change the wording or add other clauses to make it more explicit. The main difference between a contract now and a contract back then would be the context surrounding the negotiations.
>>5226805ammending vote from >>5227068to support >>5226814with >>5224540as a base contract.
>>5227072Not entirely sure why we'd stick with the old contract now, the situation has changed drastically. We can probably push actual enslavement to the Dungeon on her right now if we so choose, Grez has very little room to argue since she will quite literally die if she refuses. Remember:>Extremely desperate measures
>>5227126a certain willingness to actually uphold the contract would be useful. So making the Terms too harsh would just lead to more resentment and her maybe "Misjudging" the strength of people she brings.But that is just my interpretation.
>>5226805>>2 - Consume hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' and gain 2 [Dungeon Points]She outlived her purporse
>>5227133seriously, anon, why do yo struggle so much saving this little thing when it is the dungeon the one that needs protecting.https://youtu.be/rrDsv8HiCyc?t=150You enjoyed the girl. So did I and that's all
>>5227128Not taking advantage of her desperation to get us a more one-sided deal is a mistake, in my opinion. The deal is currently too lenient and we could get away with a contract that gives us more power over her.Am at work, so I don't have time to write much.
>>5227115It's me phoneposting.I'd like to amend the contract with the following terms :>Include 'healthcare' as free healing as much as desired>Include advantage of modifications (one free, switchable after 5 preys)>Reduce gold of prey to 50.25 is a bit harsh.
>>5227128Simple: we tie her life to the Dungeon. If we die, she dies. If at any point we can get some kind of brand to do that, that's a hardcore form of slavery.Who knows, she may even like it.
>>5227177>Who knows, she may even like it.Not with the Sadists Brand. And not without magical reinforcement.Am >>5227128Phoneposting
Vote will close roughly 2 hours from nowDecide if you want to add or change anything about the base contract from >>5224540I'm seeing some discussion and speculation regarding changes, but not a lot of suggestions (with votes) beside the change in pay. I'll try to answer any questions you might have in the meantime. If the replies to >>5227066 are anything to go by then there might be other things which aren't entirely clear. >Are the people we keep in captivity kept in stasis?Yes.>>5226941>Instinct, what sorts of actions can we take with dungeon allies? Can we use MP to heal/augment them?As mentioned. healing can simply be done as long as the ally is within the dungeon. Furthermore, allies can be granted "boons" (and other things) to strengthen them. More on that later. There's also a "levelling" mechanic for all non-dungeon creatures, which could come into play if a hostile creature or dungeon ally survives for a long time. But that's not something you'll have to keep in mind all too much, more just something that might happen. (Think "Milestones" from D&D)
>>5226835I will vote for this >>5224540 contract.I also vote for changing gold per invader to 50
>>5227189Sticking with the 50 gold and Healthcare.
>>5226805Changing vote again from >>5227097To support >>5227209
>>5226805>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping herAlter the base contract:>>5224540Remove Clause 1 and replace it with:>'She will work at the behest of the Dungeon to lure people who are easily defeated to the Dungeon'or something similar to dictate that she must feed us on the regular.Reasoning: These magical contracts have magical kickbacks, and if we're ever in a position to not pay her (either because we need the resources for something else or simply because we don't want to) I don't want to take that kickback. We can still pay Grez for every schmuck she brings in, this way we lower our own obligations so we can dodge any repercussions from the contract if we can't make the payment for some reason.If people aren't too hot on this idea, at least lower the Gold payout to 50 per person like >>5227162 suggested.Alter Clause 8 so that the Dungeon may also change the contract at will without consent of the other party. Grez still retains the right to negotiate, but letting her have a Veto in the contract is a no-no. This is more like a panic button for us to use if we suspect any treachery from her, but if she doesn't step out of line we don't need to use it.Also ask her if she's unhappy with the Brand of Cruel Intent, and if she wants it removed. Maybe even explain to her that the brand was a neccessity for her being released, and that the alternative was to damage another of her limbs to allow release.
Voting closed>6 - Propose a [Contract Mark] before helping her>>5224540>50g instead of 100g>>5227162>Include 'healthcare' as free healing as much as desired Included by default. >>5227223>'She will work at the behest of the Dungeon to lure people who are easily defeated to the Dungeon'I understand the intent, but (unlike the dungeon) Grez doesn't have a solid way of estimating people's strength. She can use her own judgement at best. Which works fairly well for fighters and other physical types, but less so for casters.
>>5226805>Getting a little ahead of things here, but this will be my last update today and I figured this would be a better discussion point than a single constitution roll which she will likely fail.So if the "invasion" is a thing that should happen but you are skipping for the point of brevity, shouldn't we still get the DP and MP for a successfully defended invasion?
>>5227256Yeah. Don't know how you want to round, but we should get half of 3 DP and a MP, so... 1 DP and 1 MP?
>>5227256>>5227260Yeah, no worries. Those will be included.
I'm also going to take the liberty to decide where to place the [Contract Mark]. It felt like a bit of a senseless vote last time. I assume the main idea is that it is out of sight.
>>5227268Nice idea. I love not losing a day between left buttcheek and shoulder where it should play 0 role in the story.
Grez lay there, barely clinging to consciousness. Knowing full well that closing her eyes meant closing them forever.She hated that she ended up here. Thrown herself at the mercy of the dungeon, but had little choice.Survival comes first, everything else comes later. Mostly because you needed the former to accomplish the latter.After a brief discussion there was a mental nod from the dungeon, a snake slithered over and, looking apologetic about it, bit her on the arm.[Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' takes one (1) point of damage from [Jungle Room].][The health of hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' has reached zero (0).][Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' has gone unconscious.][Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' has been defeated.][The dungeon will now absorb hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower'.][The invasive force has been defeated.][All monsters within the dungeon will now respawn and traps will reset.]-----------Invasion summary: VictoryNotice: Rewards have been reduced as hostile creatures have been bested by a dungeon in the past dayFurther attempts to harvest material from “Grez Wildflower” will result in no rewards.All hostile creatures in the dungeon have been bested.Amount of enemies beaten: 1Amount of dungeon points (DP) gained: 2*Amount of monster points (MP) gained: 1**Hostile creature 'Grez Wildflower' is currently held by the dungeon*Average level of enemy group times 3 (Rounded up)**Amount of monster points gained equals the level total of all bested invaders (Rounded up)-----------[Total amount of Monster Points (MP) remaining: 6][Total amount of Dungeon Points (DP) remaining: 6]The goblins watched as Grez was drawn into the dungeon floor.[Item “Gold (17)” realized by this dungeon found on the hostile creature. Acquire?]The Dungeon gave its assent, the coins were stored in the [Core Room] for the time being.Furthermore, the [Goblin Scout] was instructed to retrieve all the gold pieces that Grez has so carelessly thrown around on the cavern floor.[Item “Gold (183)” realized by this dungeon has been retrieved by [Goblin Scout]. Acquire?]Once more, the dungeon gave its assent. The total sum of two hundred gold pieces now rested in the [Core Room].The Scholar gave the other ego a look. “What?” said the Sadist, “I was going to give it back. Can’t leave it lying around.”“If you say so,” said the Scholar, sighing, “I suppose we should have a look at that leg of hers.”The Sadist held up a hand, “No need to be hasty,” it said, “Let’s have a chat with her first.”[Captive “Grez Wildflower“ is being transferred to the [Branding Chamber].]-----------
>>5227321Grez’s eyes snapped open, the gigantic hobgoblin was looming over her.A smell of iron, in part because of the blood and in part because of the cages, came over her.She lay on a dirty blanket in a corner of the room. Whatever fantasies of relief had come to her were betrayed and violently thrown out as the pain of the rampaging infection hit her once more.The agony was so overwhelming she trashed around on the ragged blanket.She felt so very cold. Yet, warm, humid air wafted from the [Jungle Room]. She could feel it on her left leg.”H-help?” she managed, heaving for breath. More of a question than a desire.Chadaklin smiled at her, “You’re missing some teeth,” he said, producing a piece of parchment, “All in due time. There’s some things we need to sort out first. You really weren’t very kind during the first set of negotiations, so don’t blame us if the terms are a little less agreeable.”“Now,” said the hobgoblin, his gaze switching between Grez and the parchment, “Let us start to review the contract. In exchange for the restoration slash healing services provided by the dungeon, you will agree to the following terms. Clause #1: You will be paid fifty gold in return for each person you lure to the dungeon that can be easily defeated by the dungeon or specifically requested by the dungeon. The gold reward has gone down a little, you see. You don’t quite have the same negotiating strength that you had earlier. I hope that’s understandable.”Grez’s skin was coated in sweat, her heartbeat began to slow.Chadaklin cleared his throat, “Clause #2: You cannot reveal the location and existence of the dungeon in any way, directly or indirectly exce--”“I consent!” screamed Grez with the last of her strength, “I CONSENT!”Chadaklin gave the half-orc a look like he was terrible cross with her, “Now, Grez. That simply will not do. It’s important that both parties know the terms of the contract. Not reading a contract is a big reason that you got into all this trouble to begin with. Where was I?” he said, then frowned, “Guess I’ll have to start from the top. Clause #1…”Grez’s consciousness was wavering, her eyes rolled around in their sockets, she reached out with a shaky hand and clutched the hobgoblin’s leg, “…please.”“If you insist,” he said, taking the parchment and pressing it against the outside of Grez’s exposed, upper-left thigh.A [Contract Mark] was already in place there. Blue light shone out from its centre.The magical inscription expanded, including many more runes to solidify the terms of the contract into the mark.“W-when?” said Grez, voice barely more than a whisper.“You were out for a good long while,” replied Chadaklin, watching as the [Contract Mark] completed itself, “I, Chadaklin, spokesperson for the dungeon, consent to this contract.”The hobgoblin looked down at her in expectation.
>>5227322Grez swallowed, “…I consent.”The [Contract Mark] on her leg flared up, now active.She felt the ground underneath her part and she was drawn into the depths of the dungeon once more.[Hostile creature “Grez Wildflower” has signed a contract with the dungeon!][Contract: Creature “Grez Wildflower” is no longer hostile to the dungeon.][Contract: Creature “Grez Wildflower” is now considered an ally to the dungeon.][Contract: Creature “Grez Wildflower” can now choose to share her senses with the dungeon.]-----------[Investigating 'Dungeon Allies'.]Query: Dungeon AlliesContext: ContractResponse:Dungeon allies are those that have decided to work alongside the dungeon.Though commonly cultists, individuals have also been observed to ally themselves with a dungeon.An alliance can be established through various means, some of them being: a [Contract Mark], a [Slave Mark], wilful submission to the dungeon, and a pact made for the sole purpose of granting boons in exchange for favours.-----------The Sadist stared down on the unconscious form of Grez as she was held in stasis.“This is amazing,” roared the Scholar, “An assistant that can go anywhere! Explore anything! We could send her to lost tombs and hidden chambers with filled with knowledge, like the library!””She needs to not be dead for that, though,” he added, “Can we finally get to that now?”The Sadist drew in a deep breath and turned towards the Scholar, smiling in victorious satisfaction, “Yes,” he said, “Yes we can.”The Scholar squinted, “And you’re not gonna hurt her if we release her, right?”“Gods, no,” replied the Scholar, acting wounded by the mere suggestion, “That would be akin to self-harm. Not my thing.”[Dungeon ally “Grez Wildflower” has been cured of all ailments and wounds.]Although it hurt the Sadist a little bit to watch the injury on her leg fade to nothing, it understood that it was for the best.After all, nobody wants to play with a broken puppet.----------->1 - Release Grez. Give her the 200 gold pieces. Tell her to get to work and find more people.>2 - Release Grez. Keep the gold for the dungeon. Tell her to get to work and find more people.>3 - Release Grez, give her the gold, and chat with her a bit. (Include what you want to talk about)>4 - Keep Grez in captivity for the time being.>5 - Other (Write-in)
>>5227324>>3 - Release Grez, give her the gold, and chat with her a bit. (Include what you want to talk about)>Congratulation for your amazing new decision. As a goodwill from our part, we can grant you a boon. For now, our boon available are limited, but a growing power means higher reward. So... Is there anything you wish to change about yourself?
An stocky man sat in a luxurious chair, reaching behind his ear to retrieve the dog-end of a cigar.A match was struck and used to light it, it took a fair amount of little puffs, but the flame eventually took.”They aren’t my best,” admitted the man, in voice filled with gravel, using his yellowed fingers to scratch his vest, “But then you required hands urgently.”He leaned back in his chair, putting his shoes on the desk that stood before him, observing the well-armoured man that sat on the opposing side of the desk.“We can meet them now, if you like,” he said finally.“Absolutely,” replied Ben.
>>5227324>5 - Other (Write-in)>Give her 100 Gold Coins. "Here for your services rendered up until now. Do not believe we can not be gracious. There will be more money and boons we can grant you at a later date if you continue to serve us faithfully. For now. Do you wish to change one thing about yourself like your race or gender?"
>>5227321Wait. Why are our DP 6? They should have increased, right?
>>5227338We spent DP on making the gold
>>5227324>5 - Release Grez. Give her the 200 gold pieces. Tell her she's free to rest in the Dungeon tonight, but we expect her to be ready to continue work tomorrow.Give her the coin she earned for bringing Fenton and Viktor, even though it's twice the amount she should get under the contract as a sign of good intentions. It also means she can get herself some equipment (or buy more magic items to drool over for the Scholar).>>5227330>>5227334I'd rather we dangle a Boon as a reward for continued service rather than giving it out for free right away. She can take the Gold, that's what she earned, but for an actual Boon she should work a little harder.And changing her looks are right out, even if she is now bound to us by contract there are no clauses that states she has to stick around with us. We let her change her looks she might get the idea to just leave since we can't force her to stay.
>>5227324Ammending my vote from >>5227334to >Give her 100 Gold Coins. "Here for your services rendered up until now. Do not believe we can not be gracious. There will be more money and boons we can grant you at a later date if you continue to serve us faithfully. In the future we could change your race or gender. Just a glimpse of what could one day be yours if your services prove themselves valuable.">afterwards she can take a look around the dungeon for a place to rest but in the morning she needs to be out and working for her upkeep.
>>5227332Qm can we ask instinct if we can make a bedroom? If so we probably should. Isnt the size of a dungeon room so shouldnt be too expensive.
>>5227364for now she can sleep with the Bugbears. Or the Brandig chamber if she prefers the smell.She gets better accomodations once she actually pulls her weight. (or e decide to get a Hobgoblin Barracks)
>>5227324Release Grez. Give her the 100 gold pieces she earned by bringing the sailors. Tell her to get to work and find more people.
>>5227324>1 - Release Grez. Give her the 200 gold pieces. Tell her to get to work and find more people.Might as well start on the right foot this time (heh)Besides, she brought the two sailors, and Ben's two friends, right? That's 200 gold.
>>5227324This will likely end up being the last update for today. I've got D&D soon. I'll be back tomorrow. Voting closes tomorrow morning.
>>5227439Have fun qm.
>>5227439have fun QM. I hope your party doesn't suicide by raiding a store again
>>5227324> Release Grez> Give her 100-200 Gold coins> Offer appearance modification to Human to better blend in with the rest of the city.> Suggest she buy clothing and adventuring gear to sell the persona of an adventurer that found a Dungeon.Easiest cover story to suggest is that she got recruited by Grez, suvived the Dungeon, Grez was killed in the Dungeon.
Voting closed>Release Grez>Give her the 200 gold pieces (4 votes for 200, 2 votes for 100)>Relay ability to grant boons or change appearance>She can rest for now, should get to work and find more people on the next dayBranding rule>Only one brand can be applied per recipient per dayI'll make sure to do a vote on granting Grez an appearance change (Brand of Icarus) when that would be possible.
>>5228440rest!? now now now... she better keeps working ASAP. She can cry in company time sure, but no breaks
>>5228565Ehh i think running her like q dog would be detrimental. If she comes to like us she will probably do a better job.
>>5228565would you trust a Girl that looks like she has not slept for days?Looking respectable(and more importantly relatively sane) enough to not draw suspicion is crucial for her new line of work.
>>5228565She bringed us people today already.And don't worry, Ben is coming back. The Bard, cleric and Paladin too.
>>5228569>>5228580>>5228598>not using up humans as tools untill they are spent and dried upCome on, we are a dungeon!!! Antagonized by everything and everyone!!!
>>5228682Using resources conservatively is this how you write that? is what will allow us to maximize the effectiveness and will deliver our greatest benefit compared to the cost we invested. You do not simply slaughter the goose if it still lays eggs.... or something like that.If she outlives her usefulness then we can still squeeze her dry for all she is worth.
>>5228691No no no, yu don't see where I am going. What is so economic of slaves is that you work them untill they die, providing sufficient resources for them to perform at an acceptable rate.Here we have a slave that is considered "allied" for the dungeon. We can work her to near-death, reconstitute with free dungen magic and keep it untill her psyche cannot handle it.
>>5228701No, we can not. Grez is not a slave, we can not command her to do anything. We can not force her to work endlessly until near-death. Read the clauses of the contract we had her sign >>5224540
>>5228682Look how big corporation do nowadays.>Enough pay to live decently for one month and half>Healthcare>The money remaining after all expense is quite minor. Quitting company would require numbing life after droning so people spend and are stuck in the rat race>Somehow the society function and people don't revolt.We should aim toward this. We had centuries of smart people finding out the best strategy to get the most value out of their workforce; let's take that as inspiration.
>>5228782So we pay her 50g per person but deduct 30g under the pretense of taxes and healthcare fund? Evil...Anyway, I am not sure if Grez knows that healing is FREE for the dungeon. We gota correct that.Let's charge half what a healer would charge. So 100g per limb
Sight blurry and with cold stone pressed against her face, Grez awoke.She planted her hands on the ground and pressed herself away from the cavern floor, using a hand to brush of the dust and tiny stones that had stuck to her cheek. When clarity returned to her, she gasped, and looked at her left leg.Not a bandage in sight. No rank smell. No pain. Only smooth, green skin.She wiggled her toes experimentally.The half-orc clasped a hand over her mouth, it felt wrong to cry, but she couldn’t stop herself.The best she could do was make sure nobody heard.The truth of the matter was that she had almost died earlier, it was only by the mercy of the dungeon that she had survived. The brand on her shoulder began to smoulder and she grit her teeth.No, not mercy. Pure business. A fact she reminded herself of when she stared at the [Contract Mark] on her exposed leg.Her time in the dungeon had been like a fever dream. She remembered little of what had happened, but the [Contract Mark] was there on her leg. An undeniable proof of servitude to the dungeon. She took in a breath. Grez looked over the mark on her leg, trying to make sense of the runes within. It was a large, complicated mark and she wasn’t skilled in magic. Seeing as the dungeon hadn’t killed her, it was likely that it stood to gain something from her continued survival.Perhaps the dungeon had explained the clauses to her in her dazed, semi-conscious state, but no matter how hard she tried she couldn’t remember more than a singular one: make fifty gold for every shmuck you deliver to the dungeon.She smiled, maybe this wasn’t so bad. Her [Brand of Cruel Intent] flared up once more, sizzling. No, this arrangement had to be temporary. But there was no reason she couldn’t profit it from it for the time being, maybe even enjoy herself a little.Now was the time of Grez Wildflower.
>>5228840Located near the entrance of the dungeon were two sizable piles of gold pieces. She looked over the rags she was wearing: the sweat drenched shirt, the tattered pants with an exposed leg. Grez felt in her pockets for the money she had stashed there previously and found it absent. She frowned and walked over to the pile with the intent to pocket a few for the second time.An odd sensation came over her when she stepped near the entrance. Previously, the sailor brothers… No, the Sutherland brothers had described to her a feeling of intensive hostility emanating from the dungeon. An overwhelming hidden force of malicious intent. Grez felt no such thing here, instead it felt warm and strangely welcoming.Something about it felt so protective. Like a shepherd welcoming back a stray sheep.Survival instincts clutching to the fact that the dungeon had restored her earlier and so was not like to kill her now, she inched into the [Jungle Room].[Dungeon ally “Grez Wildflower“ has entered the dungeon.]Falling into a defensive posture, Grez eyed her surroundings.A wild abundance of colourful flora and fauna, filled with bad memories, but no attacks were forthcoming.She did spy a bright-blue coloured frog that squinted its eyes at her, probably forming an opinion about foreigners.The foliage rustled. In one smooth motion, a goblin drenching vile fluids pounced at her.Grez held her hands over herself protectively and stumbled backwards, falling onto her rear.The attacking goblin was clubbed in the head with a large staff before the attack could connect.A blue-robed goblin stood between Grez and the assailment, angrily pointing into the distance.The aggressive goblin snarled and complained, but ultimately stomped off.That was up until it tried to disappear into the jungle and instead walked into the [Goblin Raid Leader], who dragged it back to Grez. In front of her, the vile goblin received an education and pain was the teacher.The [Brand of Cruel Intent] on Grez’s shoulder sizzled.
What could be fun is if we disguise her, have her join Ben's group, and then betray them at some opportune time.
>>5228842They would bonk it on the head, point at Grez, bark something in a guttural tongue and then bonk it again.The beatings continued until morale improved. Eventually, the [Goblin Blight Bringer] clutched the top of its head and nodded aggressively, whimpering. They let it go and the creature scampered off.Grez had been watching the entire ordeal with morbid fascination, “You sure hit him a lot,” she said, face slightly flush.The brand on her shoulder dulled, returning to a dormant state. She coughed, got up, and dusted herself off.Confirmation. The denizens of the dungeon were no longer hostile to her. No bugs or snakes threw themselves at her.She nodded to goblins. The [Goblin Raid Leader] nodded back, but the blue-robed savant didn’t seem impressed.Returning to the dungeon’s entrance, she pocketed some gold pieces and moved the rest into the safety of the dungeon.The safety of the dungeon. It was hard to comprehend.Then, she travelled towards the surface. A slight spring in her step.-----------------“…I’m going to eat those coins,” said the Sadist.“Don't,” called the Scholar-----------------The sun was creeping over the horizon, dawn had just barely arrived.The streets of the lower district were still mostly barren.Grez wondered how long she had been kept under, she faintly recalled being drawn into the depths of the dungeon and then waking up outside of it – not certain of how much time had passed.Walking outside the orphanage grounds, she carefully inspected her surroundings – ensuring the coast was clear.There was a sound of cloth being torn apart. Grez ripped away the lower half of her shirt, exposing her stomach.She then wrapped the straps of cloth around her left thigh, hiding the [Contract Mark] from view.Finally, she took a few steps and breathed in deep, smiling. It was good to be alive.Remembering something, she felt around her teeth with a finger – even the missing teeth had been restored.An elderly lady carrying a basket shuffled past her, stopped, and looked her over.“Cover yourself up, whore,” she said, pointing at half-orc’s leg and stomach, then shuffled off.Putting a few miles between herself and the orphanage (an easy feat with functional legs).Occasionally somebody would look her way and she would avoid their gaze and hasten her step.
>>5228847Once she had arrived at the other end of the lower district, she went shopping.Grez bought a large, leather backpack, a leather jerkin with a black shirt beneath it, proper boots, and some comfortable pants. The total came down to twelve gold pieces. A mighty sum for the orphan Grez, but dungeon friend Grez had gold to spare. All her wounds had been healed, any money meant for healing was now open for use.”You have anywhere I can change?” she asked the shopkeeper.“Right here is fine,” said the man, leaning over the counter and giving her a wink.It didn’t seem the half-orc had appreciated the play, so he sighed, “There’s a small room in the back,” he said, pointing over his shoulder with a thumb.Grez donned all her new clothing immediately and discarded the rags she had been wearing.Eyeing herself in the mirror present in the room, Grez came to a startling conclusion.She was looking good. Maybe cute even. She checked her teeth again, not only were they all there – they were perfect.Things like a toothbrush had always been a foreign concept to Grez, but it seems like she had no need for one anyway.There was a slight layer of grime on her, here and there, but underneath her skin was clear. Still green, though.If there was any complaint it was that she was slightly gaunt.This wasn’t the kind of benefit she had expected from allying herself with the dungeon, but she’ll take it.She had never been one to take a lot of pride in her appearance, but this felt good.The brand on her shoulder fizzled quietly.“You look stunning, lass,” said the shopkeeper as she returned, “You come back anytime, hear?”“Will do,” replied Grez waving the shopkeeper goodbye and vowing never to return.She shut the door behind her, a little bell jingled.The sounds and smells of the city opened before her.The sweet scent of honey cakes permeated the air, the local bakeries were already hard at work.An aroma that quickly reminded Grez she hadn’t eaten for a long while.She allowed her nose to guide her and moments later sat outside the bakery on a bench, eating honey cakes and lightly swaying her feet.Grez had bought an entire bag of them.The streets began to fill with people, but Grez was lost in the simple enjoyment of a filling meal.One of these people stopped beside her, “Grez?” said the voice.
>>5228851The taste of cake souring in her mouth, Grez looked up.There stood a man in long, flowing robes and wearing a large, floppy hat.He was holding a cane topped with a small orb in his hand.”You are 'Grez'?,” said the man, raising a bushy eyebrow, “Are you not?”Grez nodded slowly, and swallowed the mouth full of food, “Do I know you?”“No,” he admitted, “And neither do I know you, but I have heard of you. May I sit?”Grez scooted to the side, making some space on the bench.The man took of his hat as he sat down, revealing a set of pointed ears.“My name is Lionel Silvermist,” said the man, “'I’m a professor at the Birdsong Academy.””I have an apprentice that has spoken about you at great lengths,” added the man with a playful smile, “Rollen.”Grez blushed slightly at the implication, she had never known that Rollen had felt that way about her.”Only I haven’t seen him in a good long while,” said Lionel, “I was wondering if you maybe knew where he had gone.”Trying to keep a straight face, Grez lightly shook her head.“That’s unfortunate,” said the man with a sigh, “He can be quite sickly, you see. I fear he may have fallen ill.”“I know,” said Grez, “He used to be much the same back in the orphanage. You seem to care a great deal for your students, I’m glad.”The enjoyed a sensible chuckle, “Well,” he said, getting up, “I mean, he’s a bit more than a student. He’s my apprentice after all.”He stared at her for a long moment.Grez nearly felt herself crumble under his gaze, she reached into the bag filled with honey cakes and pulled one out, “Do you want a one?” she asked, her face a picture of innocence.The man held out a warding hand, “No, thank you. I just ate. Well. Good day to you, Grez. Please send Rollen my way should you encounter him, will you?”The half-orc nodded, “Will do,” she said, hastily filling her mouth with the small cake she had offered earlier.The man donned his hat and left then, orb-tipped cane clicking against the cobblestones.A sizzle, Grez’s brand burned. It occurred to her that she had leverage against the wizard.She knew something he didn’t. Something he desperately wanted to know.There was a side of her that wanted to call out to him.A side that wanted to the string the man along and lure him towards the dungeon.--------------------->1 - Call out to the wizard. Ask him to follow Grez to Rollen’s last whereabouts>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)>3 - Contact Grez and tell her to return to the dungeon for the time being (Share cakes with goblins)
>>5228860This vote won't be open very long. Depending on the answer I hope to follow it up with another vote so I can work on that somewhere tomorrow.
>>5228851I always forget to post images.
>>5228860Call out to the wizardAnd have the scout get ready, we might need to physically force him into the dungeon.
>>5228867greentext you dumb lard maker>>5228860>>>1 - Call out to the wizard. Ask him to follow Grez to Rollen’s last whereaboutsThis is a fair challenge to the dungeon!!!!!!And this Silvermist may solve the puzzle, giving us cool boons. Before dying.
>>5228860>1 - Call out to the wizard. Ask him to follow Grez to Rollen’s last whereabouts...Shit, this is a hard decision. They are undoubtedly going to be pretty strong, and I'm not sure if they will go deeper than the jungle room, if they survive it. Probably have high INT and WIS, which gives them a decent chance to live through it too. Also if they go missing, that will be all the more heat we attract. ...Fuck it, we might as well. If the dice go our way, this could be huge.Now if you'll excuse me, I need to go find a goat to sacrifice.
>>5228860>1 - Call out to the wizard. Ask him to follow Grez to Rollen’s last whereabouts
We should put some thought to unit distribution, if he's a mage he may have an aoe like our own.
>>5228860>1 - Call out to the wizard. Ask him to follow Grez to Rollen’s last whereaboutsKick his ass, sea bass
>>5228860>1 - Call out to the wizard. Ask him to follow Grez to Rollen’s last whereaboutsFuck it let's go.
>>5228860>2 - Let the man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)A teacher from the Mage Academy is unlikely to be a pushover, nor uneducated of the dangers of going inside a Dungeon. If he enters he'll be difficult to defeat since we have only a single T2 monster (I'm expecting at least a Level 3 opponent with some nasty spells). If he doesn't enter, at best the Birdsong Academy will know of our location, at worst the entire city. Not a terribly exciting prospect for our Dungeon right now.
Probably in the minority here but I think picking on the debatably skilled wizard is the wrong move here. I know that Rollen was a nobody that got their ass kicked swiftly in the dungeon, but that kid had nasty spells that would've severely fucked us over if he had the chance to use them. Plus, there's this tidbit of info>“My name is Lionel Silvermist,” said the man, “'I’m a professor at the Birdsong Academy.”Even if a goddamn professor in MAGIC is somehow a wet towel in combat, he is definitely a somebody. This isn't some street urchin we can gobble up for breakfast, people will investigate this man's sudden disappearance if things go our way. We don't even have a second floor yet, and we just have 1 boss. With all that said, I'm going for>>5228860>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)Surely there is something less high risk.
>>5228860>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)Is this "pick who we try to lure to the dungeon" thing getting old for anyone else? I appreciate the story involved, but surely this could be something rolled/decided without our input while maintaining the story right? I don't want to go through a whole rigamarole of rolling to lure, maybe failing, then rolling again, especially if this is going to be a regular thing. Seems like a waste of time and creative energy. Besides, the contract forbids her from bringing someone that isn't "easily defeated".
>>5228860changing vote from >>5228931to >2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)
>>5228860>>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target.This man would fold us like a paper towel.
>>5228860> 2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target.
>>5228860>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)I feel he's too dangerous for us...For now
>>5228860>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)>>5229188I agree somewhat. Maybe we should generally have rolls like for random encounters but if there is a chance for someone special like Lionel decide ourselves
>>5229188For me, the "luring" is a free benefit of our ally Grez.The upscale of difficulty, shonen-like stronger and stronger opponent comes from our ruthless absorption tactics (imposed by Sadist personality for now; maybe we'll be able to change by enforcing a confidentiality contract to the next raiders). So I think that opportunities like those are quite free and won't count into the game's scaling...
Voting closed>2 - Let them man leave and try to find another target. (Same multi-target prompts as previously)>>5229188>Is this "pick who we try to lure to the dungeon" thing getting old for anyone else? >I appreciate the story involved, but surely this could be something rolled/decided without our input while maintaining the story right? >I don't want to go through a whole rigamarole of rolling to lure, maybe failing, then rolling again, especially if this is going to be a regular thing. >Seems like a waste of time and creative energy. Besides, the contract forbids her from bringing someone that isn't "easily defeated".Does anyone else feel this way? The idea behind the Grez thing is basically "semi-random" encounters where you can pick from a list of randomized options. I try to make these interesting. Bit of story behind them and sometimes they will trigger an encounter I had planned for a later time. For example: DAY ONE roll>4 - A woman wearing white, priestly robes with a expensive looking staff on her (DC 18)This would've triggered an encounter that was teased previously. Even if Grez had failed the roll it would've pushed that route further along. That route will still happen regardless of interaction with Grez, but it will just continue at its own pace for now. A fair few of them also have magical items or brands on them that they suffered in other dungeons. >A young man clad in black leather that seems to chuckle to himself as he makes hand gestures to support some kind of daydream (DC 15)Though I had previously mostly restricted those to higher DC encounters, but I'm rethinking that. I'll admit that I partially also picked this "pick your poison" method so people could choose the difficulty instead of me dropping something on them that could feel too strong. Random Grez Encounters>1 - Keep them as they are.(With DC and rolling)>2 - Keep the semi-random encounters, but do away with rolling (Auto-success on luring, no DC, choose-your-adventure style)>3 - Let the QM pick random folks to lure into dungeon. (Auto-success on luring, QM will roll on a table for magic items / brands / boons -- if any)>4 - Make them completely passive. (No combat. Simply gain some DP / MP every few days, with chance of items / brands / etc)I'll keep this vote open for an hour or so. If it gets enough feedback by then I'll implement it on the new set of rolls, if not I'll do the next set of rolls with the old rules for the time being.
>>5229283>3 - Let the QM pick random folks to lure into dungeon. (Auto-success on luring, QM will roll on a table for magic items / brands / boons -- if any)to be honest. It is nice for a time. It still takes away from the main Game Gameplay loop. I truly appreciate your well written storys. Micromanaging Grez just feels like it takes so much time. So unless we specifically ask her to do something for us (find specific Item or person or she needs some help with a problem) she can take care of herself
>>5229283This is a tough one >>5229269 has a point but I feel that if done long/often enough it could start to slow things down, though so far it's been done well. Unfortunately I don't know which of those options will be the best for the quest but I'm leaning towards 2 and slightly to 1.Even if 2 means we'll just go for the highest amount of DP we believe we can get without too much danger,. A good Qm should still be able to trick us into underestimating the threat/overestimating the reward
>>5229283>Keep them as they are.(With DC and rolling)I personally don't expect us to be able to lure people to the dungeon forever due to increased heat of people mysteriosly disappearing and eventually having our location discovered, but while we still can I prefer to have a say in who we lure. The process could be expidited by allowing us to roll for multiple attempts simultaneously.For example, lets say Grez has an arbitrary 4 attempts to lure people this week. We pick 4 targets out of a list of X encounters and roll against their DC at omce, those that succeed are lured to the dungeon during the week. Means we condense down the amount of times we have to stop and roll for Grez.
>>5229283>1 - Keep them as they are.(With DC and rolling)>Does anyone else feel this way?Not in the slightest. Getting a vote for "person we attract", a roll, then a dungeon encounter is perfectly fine. I mean, at best you could argue that the last one had a large amount of fluff but that was the first one, which needs to establish a precedent, and you already said you would scale that back. If it becomes a short, snappy vote of who to lure in, then a roll, then I think it's good. Gives us an opportunity to try and bite into something bigger too, if we want. >Though I had previously mostly restricted those to higher DC encounters, but I'm rethinking that.You could certainly get creative with this. Consider that the roll is only for Grez to convince them to follow her. Someone looking into the disappearances, or looking for Grez, is much more likely to follow, but also be much stronger then the DC suggests. Something like that at least.
>>5229283I'd love a mix between 1 and 3 -- Grez is starting getting autonomous and you could storybuild better>>5229295Now, we have contract so sadist does not HAVE to damage people.Let's say we manage to defeat the magus. Imposing a contract with confidentiality and coming back once a week alone could be very favoable for us : farming Intel puzzle for example.Heck, we could even gave him scholar brand so he'll stockpile magical objects on his own, then we take them from him and grant him a few gold to go back shopping.Branding room opened us a whole new playfield; we can now be smart and stop wiping everything coming inside. Except Ben's party, with the exception of Ben. We'll gift him some nonsensical branding to make people believe he's cursed.
>>5229283>>5229302Though for what it's worth, combining it with option 3 is also fine.I suspect we will mostly go for easy options for a while, so if the choice is just>sailor>hobo>criminalThe it might as well be automatic. But you could throw votes like this one with the wizard at us every once in a while, where an unusual opportunity present itself, and we have to choose. I would be fine with that too.
>>5229309add to the choice the obviously crazed adventurer like the first vote (A young man clad in black leather that seems to chuckle to himself as he makes hand gestures to support some kind of daydream) and people with money issue. We can imagine a kind of contract with confidentiality, and go train in the dungeon once a week for 50 gold. This would allow to build some passive income. however, people coming in and out might bring suspicion. Maybe we should get Grez to buy the building and start a shop of her own... Maybe an adventurer gear shop?
>>5229283It was, in fact, more than "an hour or so". I'm mostly seeing combinations between 1 and 3. I suspected that people would vote for 2, since it meant still having the option to pick, but not having to go into a "roll loop". That goes to show the importance of the occasional meta vote like this. I'll more or less keep going with with what I have. Splitting the encounters into two categories: "Search" and "Run-in". "Search" is basically when you explicitly tell Grez to find a person to lure into the dungeon (Selection of options). "Run-in" is like the wizard from just now (Yes / No choice on luring). I'll try to keep the search rolls short and snappy. Maybe by using something along the lines of >>5229295
>>5229364Sounds good.This anon's >>5229295 idea also seems like a pretty good way to speed up voting, once it become routine enough.
>>5228860There were too many uncertainties.Sure, the man was covered in magical bling, which would be great to acquire.The problem was that they would first have to succeed in taking those from him.Grez decided to let he man go for now. If needed she could always visit the Birdsong Academy and tell him she had some second-hand information on Rollen’s last whereabouts.Birds chirped in the distance, horse-drawn carts rolled by.Grez sat in the bench in front of the bakery for a long moment.The past few days had been consumed by her quest to get her leg fixed.Leg now finally restored and general body better than ever, she needed a moment to plan her next move.She had gotten rid of the [Contract Mark] of the Blackwood brothers, but her debt still remained.Adding Ben and whatever allies he could muster up into the mix, that still meant there were two groups constantly on the lookout for her.The Blackwood brothers were all business. They might not appreciate the fact that she got rid of the [Contract Mark], but she was confident that they would let it go if she increased the amount of gold given to them.Ben, however, was more difficult. His sole desire was the death of the dungeon and herself.An intrusive thought popped into her mind. One that the Grez from a week ago would’ve never had.What if she simply had him killed? There’s plenty of cutthroats, mercenaries, and assassins in the city of Duskmire.What if he simply had an “accident”? Fall from a set of stairs somewhere and end up a crippled mess at the bottom of it?Full of bruises, broken bones, and wailing his lungs out. Grez smiled as she entertained the thought.That did it then. All her problems could be solved. Solved with gold pieces.Then her current plan of action was to acquire as much of it as she could.And there was nothing more profitable, by far, than the money she could make through her deal with the dungeon.She dusted the honey cake crumbs off her clothing and and went into a nearby tavern.It was probably for the best to wait until dusk with all these people searching for her.Grez rented a room in a nearby tavern and waited for nightfall.As the sun went under, Grez set out to explore the city, on the prowl for her next victim.The pure, sinister intent of it quickened her heartbeat. What a rush.----Grez’s [Brand of Cruel Intent] gives her advantage on these checks. (Roll included in brackets after DC)1 - A female bard with long, blonde hair hidden under a tricorne hat, flirting with anything in sight (DC 10) (2d20)2 - An tall, muscled near-orc of a woman, carefully sipping ale and making herself seem small (DC 13) (3d20. Yes, 3)3 - A four-man party of adventurers enjoying a nice meal while discussing a prospective quest (DC 15) (2d20)4 - A half-elf taking in the sights of the city, her wolf companion at her side. (DC 18) (2d20)5 - A rare dwarf paladin carrying a massive, decorated maul and his two dwarf retainers (DC 20) (2d20)
>>5229390Imagine these in there >
>>5229390>A tall, muscled near-orc of a woman, carefully sipping ale and making herself seem small (DC 13) (3d20. Yes, 3)The 4-man party is tempting, will give us lots of resources, but a DC15 is a little scary without any buffs and they could be stronger than us. The not!-Amazonian Warrior with the 3 dice is a near guaranteed success, so she'll have to do.
>>5229390>2 - An tall, muscled near-orc of a woman, carefully sipping ale and making herself seem small (DC 13) (3d20. Yes, 3)It's tempting to aim high, but it's probably best to focus on easy marks until we at least get a second floor. Then we can start attracting more challenging prey. The shy orc woman seems strong, but the WIS and INT checks in the jungle room should probably be enough.
>>5229390>2 - An tall, muscled near-orc of a woman, carefully sipping ale and making herself seem small (DC 13) (3d20. Yes, 3)Since Grez can only guess at the strengths and weaknesses of people physical people are probably for the best right now. Even if they have little loot.
>>5229390Voting closed>>A tall, muscled near-orc of a woman, carefully sipping ale and making herself seem small (DC 13) (3d20. Yes, 3)Need DC13 saving throws for Grez Wildflower (+5) (+3 Charisma modifier and +2 from journal / treasure story) Roll comes down to: 3d20+5 (Taking the highest d20)Please include the following message:Rolling for Grez Wildflower against tall, muscled near-orc of a woman
Rolled 5, 1, 15 + 5 = 26 (3d20 + 5)>>5229430Rolling for Grez Wildflower against tall, muscled near-orc of a womanA roll like that? Shooting fish in a barrel.
>>5229434well it was still needed. The first two rolls would not have made it. Ouch.
>>5229434Success, big money time incoming. Floor 2 is approaching faster than expected.
>>5229434Well play mate.
Ok, here's my plan.>Get Orc in dungeon>Orc didn't make it>propose a contract to the orc : can't try to break the dungeon, can't disclose location, can come once a week, the better she does the greater rewards.
>>5229467I don't like the idea of letting more people live that know about the dungeon, even if we have them under contract. The more people that know, the more likely something will slip or someone will notice a brand or someone finds a loophole or something. Better to just eat her imo.
>>5229470People will know about us at some time.You want the town to know about us as some kind of friendly training ground and a valuable ressource to keep around, or a menace to be dealt with as soon as possible?
>>5229473I'd rather not expedite the process for long enough to not need to care what the rabble think of us.
>>5229473That literally does not matter, people will want to break us to get rich either way. Besides, don't broken dungeons still generate monsters? A broken dungeon is way better as a training ground. Less risk.Also, we will hardly get a "friendly reputation" by forcing people to accept a contract under threat of death. Or, you know, branding them each time they come to the dungeon.For what it's worth, it's not a terrible plan, but it's too risky. The whole reason we gave Grez the Brand of Cruel Intent and treated her relatively well is so she supports us willingly, making her unlikely to try and pull some bullshit by finding a loophole in the contract.Some random stranger will absolutely try to let everyone know they are in deep shit somehow, and we can only draft so many autistic contracts before we overlook something.
>>5229478>Help me, I'm in deep shit, I have a very well payed optionnal confidential income stream
>>5229489>>5229467>can come once a week, not Have to come once a week.
>>5229490imagine choosing to not consume them and then telling them they don't have to come back
>>5229483Right, I though you wrote >has to come once a weekinstead of >canMy bad, apparently I can't fucking read.But my point about loopholes still stands, anyone we release might find one and try to bring back a strong party to break us. Or someone finds the contract mark on a family member/lover/whatever and starts an investigation. Also the contract as you put it means they could literally just fuck off and never come back. Honestly, Grez will provide us with enough bodies, no need to complicate this even more.
>>5229494>>5229492>Also the contract as you put it means they could literally just fuck off and never come back.Of course. This is why I don't bring this for Archimagus WhatsIsNameAgain.But we are dragging poor, low life there. You usual broke gambler or addict, with an opportunity to get easy money.
>>5229496You are ignoring the whole brand thing. Anyone who come is needs to get branded, and none of the brands we have are even remotely friendly. I'm not sure many people will come all that often.And, again, any motherfucker finds a way to spread the word and all of a sudden the entire city wants our ass.Simpler and less risky to just eat them.
>>5229364>I'll try to keep the search rolls short and snappy.I lied.
>>5229501You're right on one point. Even with my assumptions, giving money as an incentive can get back to bite us when the target accumulate enough to pay for remove the contract mark.However, this is still the way I want to go for desperate low lifes. Turn them into drones, and maybe get them to ambush dangerous parties inside the dungeon later
>>5229503well, at least it wasn't a multi-post affair, and the actual luring post still can be short
We can create fake gold coins within the confines of the dungeon for free right? We should make a breadcrumb trail in the jungle to the branding room to try and get two triggers on the trap. Visible gold pieces might help lure people in too.
>>5229503You monster...Happens to us all>>5229506I didn't even think about that, there goes one loophole. I was thinking that if someone finds the contract mark on someone, then the marked person could gives vague hints like "Man the Orphanage is really broken down, huh?" which has nothing to do with the dungeon but narrows it's location enough to be found easily. There are only so many degrees of separation the word "indirectly" can cover before someone can somehow lead another person on the right track.I'm sure there is more we could think of.
>>5229512this is a good idea, I like it, though it does remove some mystery as to which is the "right way to the core"
I just realised, aren't the terms of a contract marked into the Contract Mark? Then literally all on has to do is find it, and the first thing they will see is "You cannot reveal the dungeon's location" which gives them everything they need to start searching.>>5229512Very good idea. just make the trails go everywhere to obfuscate the right path and it could be great bait.
>>5229525"Follow the term disclosed on the piece of paper you willingly agreed to sign without divulgating the contents"
>>5229512Thirding the fake gold idea
>>5229533That could work... or it could not.It says here >>5222396 that:>All of the terms, clauses, procedures, and protocols, can be found in the contents of the contract and should be carefully scrutinized.>The contents of the contract can be either directly inscribed into the circle or written down on a piece of parchment, like a physical contract, and then later pressed onto the skin where the [Contract Mark] is placed.The above seems to imply that the contract containing all of the terms has to be on the skin of the recipient at the end of the day. It might mean a loophole like that is not possible.Though there is nothing explicitly saying it isn't possible so I guess that's one option.
>>5229549at the end of the day, it's just a simple matter.Do we want to keep gobbling everything coming nearby or try to get less lethal? I'll go for less lethal, because i'm scared of getting crusade'd.
>>5229553That's fair.Personally, I think we are gonna get crusaded either way since we are essentially a gold mine on steroids. With that in mind, being discreet is best, which means no loose ends.
Ok lets try and draft up a new more solid contract that can adress some of the concerns we ran into and be more wildly applicable. I still feel we shouls be picky with who we do this too as i agree to many is suspicious and a bunch of homeless jobbers would suck and a bunch of homless jobbers coming home rich would be sus.Non slave version >1 - the subject of the contract will be payed (varible decide on person) gold in return for each person they bring to the location of the contract holder that can be easily defeated by the contract holder or specifically requested by the contract holder.>2 - the subject of the contract cannot reveal the location and existence of the contract holder in any way, directly or indirectly except for the purposes of rule 1>3 the subject of the contract must hide the any brand they have recived willinging or unwillingly and cannot reveal or allude to any brand they have received directly or indirectly.>4 - the subject of the contract must hide their nature as a agent of the contract holder unless ordered otherwise by the contract holder>5 - the subject of the contract is prohibited from intentionally harming the contract holder, directly>6 - the subject of the contract is prohibited from intentionally harming themselves directly or indirectly, except to the benefit of the contract holder>7 - the subject of the contract must always directly tell the truth to the contract holder, unless ordered otherwise by the contract holder.>8 - In case of the contract holders death, the subject of the contract is freed from all responsibilities unless the contract is inherited by a specified party.> 9 - Possession of the contract does not make one the contract holder, they must either be the original, or have inherited it.> 10 - contract terms may be changed with the consent of both parties after it is signed.> 11 - the subject of the contract cannot remove, attempt to remove, ask others to remove, any brand they have recived willingly or unwillingly without the consent of the contract holder Slave version is just add> - 12 the subject of the contract must obey all commands by the contract holder.And change 10 to > - the contract terms may be changed at any time by the contract holder.For people who we farm for gold we can remove 5 so they remain hostile and change one to be > 1 - the subject of the contract will be payed (varible decide on person) gold in return for attempting to approach within 5 feet of the contract holder and failing to do so.I assume the contract holder is the coreThis should be more tight with no references to the dungeon so really it could be any soul sucking monster that wishes to eat people for power. Any suggested changes are welcome. Also we may want to ask grez she will will take a 25gp raise for updating the contract.
>>5229561So, this is a good template for me. It covers the job of Reel (lure prey in, contract + Sadist brand), and the job of Fertilizer (prey wich disparition will raise question, so stealthier to get them coming back and back again).What about creating a kind of contract for scholars?They should aim to stockpile magic items (using scholar brand) and get payed more so they go back and buy more magical items.
Spending the late hours of the day on the search for her next victim, Grez found herself in an open-air tavern named the Hunters' Refuge.A simple place with a handful of firepits dotted across the area and a large, circular bar.The majority of its patrons were congregated around the bar, where hard liquors flowed more plentiful than ale.Rather than use cups, they simply asked the barman to top of their flasks – they all seemed to carry those.Seasoned adventurers, one and all. They had a hard look to their faces and conversed with intent.A few had formed small groups at their own tables, private gatherings that had various animal companions lurking near them – hoping for scraps.Finally, you had to have the lone wolves. Sitting by themselves, staring daggers at anyone hoping to make conversation.These people would never end up in a long-term campaign, they were simply not built for it.Like the lone wolves, yet different in other ways, was a tall, muscular half-orc.She sat by herself at a table near a firepit, but not that near.Like she was enjoying its flame, but being apologetic about it. The very edges of warmth.Unlike the rest of the patrons she was sipping ale out of a large flagon.The half-orc sat hunched forward, shoulders bent inward in an attempt to make herself seem smaller.This was the first other half-orc Grez had seen in many weeks and she could tell that either the city or something else had taken a toll on the poor woman.This was going to be easy.No longer a rags wearing orphan, but now a fully kitted out individual with the backing of a powerful entity, she confidently sauntered her way to the bar and shouldered past the patrons, ordering herself a stiff drink.The barman delivered her the drink with all the patience of a man who knows bravado when he sees it.Grez took her drink and sat down at the same table as the tall half-orc.The other woman didn’t notice her until Grez scooted in close and sat directly opposite.Only then did the half-giant managed to pull her attention away from the bottom of her mug, she had been simply staring into the flagon.The woman looked up, made brief eye contact, and looked back into her flagon.“Greetings,” said Grez, flashing a friendly smile that went unobserved, “It’s nice seeing another half-orc around.”The woman nodded at her flagon and used both hands to raise it to to her lips, where it remained.Like a shield jutted out in defence, the warrior behind it peering over its edge. She took a sip.“My name’s Grez,” continued Grez jovially, “Are you from around?”Mug held before her, the half-giant slowly shook her head, gaze not leaving the content of the flagon.Grez’s eye twitched, her brand sizzled, this was sheer disrespect and she would not stand for it.“Look at me!” she roared, slamming a hand on the table.Some of the patrons near the bar looked over momentarily, but quickly lost interest.
>>5229571The half-giant began to shiver, but her eyes were on Grez now, “Zarkha,” said the woman.“Zarkha? What the hell is that?” barked Grez.“Me,” said the woman carefully, “I’m Zarkha.”She took a sip from her flagon but was careful not to let her eyes fall from Grez.“Zarkha,” said Grez, testing the name, “That’s a good name.””You’ve got some impressive muscle there, Zarkha, I bet you’re strong.” added Grez.Zarkha’s face flushed a deep crimson, hid half her face behind her flagon, and shrugged.The words came from behind a fortified position, “N-not anymore.”Chuckling incredulously, Grez gestured at the woman’s arms, “What do you mean, not anymore? Look at those biceps!”Zarkha’s body was certainly impressive. The tank top she was wearing highlighted the muscle even more.Grez had no doubt a set of washboard abs was hidden underneath them.”You can’t tell me you have a body like that and don’t slay dragons and have adventures!” she added.Zarkha lowered her flagon and clearly struggled to retain eye contact with Grez, “I d-don’t do adventuring anymore,” she said, “I’m r-retired. I work in the q-quarry outside the city now. I’m just here to deliver s-stuff.”Grez eyed her critically, “S-stuff?” she echoed mockingly.The half-giant nodded slowly and took a long sip from her flagon, “I’m no good in battle a-anymore.”Grez eyed the woman up and down, an event that didn’t go unnoticed – Zarkha covered herself with her large hands like she was an exposed maiden, “Don’t stare,” the half-giant murmured, eyes downcast.The woman was a sheep. A large, burly, crush-your-head-with-a-hand sheep.
>>5229566Im not sure we want to do the scolar one. The brand will make them hoard the items without giving it up. Although we could do somthing with the library trap if it actually gives us somthing for compleation.
>>5229572Suddenly, Grez realized she had been going about this all wrong.”There’s a treasure somewhere in the lower district and you’re gonna help me find it,” she stated flatly.Eyes widening, Zarkha apologised profusely, “I’m sorry. I c-can’t. I can barely hold my axe without shaking!”“I wasn’t asking,” said Grez, standing up and staring at Zarkha with disdain, “Get up. We’re going now.”When no movement was forthcoming, she struck the massive orc hard across the cheek, “GET. UP.”There was a faint sound of something sizzling, the origin unknown.Zarkha got up, one hand pressed against the cheek that had been struck.Her knees were shaking and eyes downcast. The half-giant nodded and went to stand beside the table.Upright, she towered over Grez. She had to be at least seven foot tall.Grez walked around the tall figure and kicked her behind the knee, causing the powerful legs to buckle.Zarkha fell to her knees. Grez leaned in towards the other half-orc’s ear and whispered, “You’re gonna follow me, you understand?”Eyes rimmed with tears and lower lip trembling, Zarkha nodded.Grez lightly slapped the half-giant twice on the neck, “Now there’s a good girl.”Together they walked off, leaving the Hunters’ Refuge behind them.The patrons stared in disbelief, one person coughed lightly and excused himself. ------------------------------Rest of the update and the combat portion will follow later today, I have to run some errands.
>>5229572Lol i like this new grez shes a hardass
We should probably make a contract for combat helping the dungeon esp as we can revive anyone who falls so its not a real threat to them.Can add in>1 - the subject of the contract will be payed (varible decide on person) gold in return for defending the contract holder from hostiles >2 - the subject of the contract will be paid (variable amount to be determined) for personally felling a hostile per hostile.This way grez can get in some training.I say when she returns with this schmuk we offwe this upgrade with the other contract changes I suggest 50 for each so she is incentivised to fight for us and kill for us and bring in people she thinks she could probably beat for the extra cash. Plus we can have some drama when she fights ben and it will be glorious.
>>5229576pfahhhaha.wow. well lets see if Grez can get her into the dungeon so the Goblins can do the rest.as a person with a heart i bleed a little doing this to someone like that. The asshole in me just sees something new to torment.
>>5229587Liking the contract.>>5229575They hoard item. They HAVE to come back because of contract. We defeat them. We get the item and hoard them. They get compensational gold. Rinse and repeat.
Can't say it's not effective, but with her current attitude Grez will draw much more attention to herself. At this rate the rumor will spread quickly about a very aggressive Orc going about recruiting people whom are never seen again afterwards.As for contracting people, I disagree with the notion of contracting people left, right and center just because we can. We got extremely lucky with Grez. Mangling her leg and ruining her chances of paying back her debt, getting thrown in to the Dungeon by Ben (due to our failed scout roll) so we could propose a deal to remove her Contract Mark (while also completely cutting the last ties she had to anyone above ground), and finally her having to choose between dying or making a deal. It was a perfect blend of failures and successes that brought about the desperate circumstances neccessary for this. And because we're the only one she has left we have her conditional loyalty for now, which will hopefully turn to a neccessary existence in her life to satisfy her future sadistic urges.Zarkha is not in the same position as Grez, she's working the quarry and has a steady income. She is not desperate like Grez was, she has no loan sharks breathing down her neck, no old friend-turned-arch-enemy hunting her down and no rotting leg threatening to kill her and she doesn't even want to fight even if she's buff as shit. She's better off as resources rather than another Contract Target, honestly.Lose Lips sink Ships, we should be careful about who we trust enough to let walk out of the Dungeon, especially since we'll be forfeiting resources by letting people go.
>>5229576Wow, I almost feel bad.>one person coughed lightly and excused himself.Me too, random patron. Me too.
>>5229635Zarkha is integrated in society. Her disapearing will lead to questions.Her coming back with pockets full of gold might legitimate Grez as someone having some real leads to hidden treasures of the city.
>>5229666Her coming back with pockets full of gold is also going to raise questions. Different ones, but the answers lead back to the dungeon all the same. Except there will be someone other then Grez to question, someone who has no reason to keep their lips shut. I mean, shit, even if we agreed that the whole "pay people to get their shit kicked in and get branded" scheme is a good idea, Zarkha is really not ideal. She is a nervous wreck who probably couldn't care less about training, and has no real need for money. Especially if it means facing what is likely some sort of trauma around fighting. If the contract does not state that she needs to come back, she never will. And in exchange we have a loose end dangling about in the city.
>>5229666A quarry worker going missing will not begin an inquiry in to their disapperance. Remember, we're in the slums and no on here is important enough to warrant a search (Rollen being the only current exception). No one came to look for Fenton or Viktor, both were in similar positions to Zarkha. Their ship most likely set sail without giving them a second thought. Similarly no one would spare more than that about Zarkha. "Oh, she's no longer coming to work. What a shame. Welp, these rocks aren't going to cut themselves." I'd rather have the resources we get from turning her in to paste than have to worry about another pair of lips that we have no control over and who's loyalty is questionable at the absolute best of times.
>>5229673I think she behaves like this because of a Brand. Removing said Brand could turn her into asset
>>5229681Hmm a submissive brand could be useful.>>5229576You know op dispite it taking awhile i do love the sidestories with grez and you do a good job of not making it monotonous and very enjoyable giving us vignettes into the city >>5229666I think her coming back with treasure is more dangerous. We can change grez's appearance to basically anything ans as long as we stick to undersierables we will probably start rumors of somthing dissapearing people but we should be safe for a long timeShort term we should be working on immidiate power boosts so we can kill ben and close up loose ends. Then afterwords we can work on long term planning and use grez to recruit people to work for us.When we are in long term mode it is probably better to not be lethal but our best targets to not raise suspicion is adventurers. They get handfuls of money randomly from unkown sources all the time and so long as we require them to have the contract before knowing about the dungeon (grez can probably apply it) we can safely raise our numbers. Probably targeting down on their luck adventurers and just try to keep the secret running as long as we can, and as our power and influence grows we can reasses our new options.Basically lets try to make a well paid contract army that we can train.
>>5229688And that's why I think the half giant can be usefull. Granted, pocket full of treasure might not be the way to go, but let's see the giantess stats before just 'nomming her
>>5229688Not the worst long term plan. Nothing we should be doing now, but eventually we could carefully try to recruit people to do our bidding. Though I will say:>grez can probably apply itI HIGHLY doubt it.
>>5229576Personally I feel like Grez is attracting too much attention - IE, > 'The patrons stared in disbelief, one person coughed lightly and excused himself.'Someone is tracking Grez.I think Zharka is a bad mark. The group voted for it and the play is already in motion, Im just adding another voice that I think this is a Bad Call and is going to end up bringing more heat on the Dungeon than we want. Too stable of a job, probably a good worker with a bad past that is going to have their boss/friends/coworkers asking questions.Grez should have stuck to the slums instead of this more reputable establishment. Oh well, cant change it now.We need to get Grez to agree to the appearance change ASAP. She is likely to not agree to it until the trackers story arc resolves.At best, he follows Grez into the Dungeon and we can kill him off. At worst, Grez is captured and interrogated and spills all details.Middle ground result is he disappears and reports back to whatever superiors sent him that Grez has been found alive and send a bigger team to result in one of those two outcomes.
>>5229707Well the group that put on grez's inital brand was able to do so with the contract refering to the group rather then the person applying it so we probably can have proxies do it i hope.The issue is we need them to agree ro the deal and be stuck with it before they know they are working with a dungeon. Becuase if they know we are a dungeon first then we get stuck with the join or die scenario because we dont want anyone spreading around there is a dungeon. Loose lips sinks ships after all.
>>5229712Shit your right we need to convince grez to change her appearance.
>>5229713No, I just mean that Grez is not a wizard of any kind, so they cannot apply a magical brand. At least, I highly doubt it.
>>5229732Oh, good point>>5229576Qm how does branding work exactly, can we have grez do it by proxy or would she need to know magic to do it?
A pleasant twenty minute stroll later, during which Grez barked commands and Zarkha nervously played with her hair, they arrived at the threshold of the dungeon. The sticky smells of the [Jungle Room] wafting in their direction.Grez lazily gestured at the dungeon before her, sweeping her hand in a half-circle like the world’s worst cart salesperson.“Here we are,” said Grez, firmly rooted in the belief of perfect control, “Treasure ahead. Let’s go.”The tall half-orc cowered in front of the entrance, “This is a d-dungeon, isn’t it? I’ve seen them before.”-----------“Finally!” roared the Sadist, “Some respect. It is about time people cower appropriately.”“Hmm, she must’ve left her spine at home,” remarked the Scholar with a slight chuckle.-----------Grez clapped slowly, “Yeeeey. Well done. It is a dungeon. A treasure dungeon. It gives you free gold pieces if you get to the end.”“W-what?” replied Zarkha, turning towards Grez, “But t-that makes no se---”The sound of the slap echoed though the cavern.Zarkha yelped, fell to her knees, and clutched her cheek with both hands.Grez squatted down next to her, “It’s a treasure dungeon.”Zarkha nodded fiercely.“Say it,” said Grez.“It’s a treasure d-dungeon,” echoed Zarkha.Grez was enjoying this far more than she would ever admit.The [Brand of Cruel Intent] pulsed contently.“Maybe you’ll survive and you can buy yourself something nice,” said Grez, patting Zarkha on the shoulder, “You saving up for something?”Zarkha nodded, “I a-am,” she said, still holding her cheek, but too terrified to let the question go unanswered, “But it’s very expensive.”“Ooooh~~~” replied Grez, “Maybe a pretty dress for the goliath?””Pfft. At your size? Just buy a fucking blanket,” she added, standing up, “Get up. We’re conquering this bitch.”The half-giant made no further movement, frozen to the cavern floor, “I d-don’t even have my weapo – Argh!” she said, forced to cry out in pain.Grez pulled at Zarkha’s hair until she was forced to stand and was then pushed into the dungeon.[One hostile creature has entered the dungeon.][Dungeon ally “Grez Wildflower“ has entered the dungeon.]
Name: ZarkhaType: Humanoid (Half-orc)Level: 5Health: 6Strength: +8Dexterity: +1Constitution: +4Wisdom: +1Intelligence: -1Charisma: -3Giant’s Fall SkillYou’ve personally destroyed the core of a two-level dungeon.You gain a permanent +1 to your health.Great Weapon Master (Axe) SkillYour skill with the axe is without question.You deal 2 points of damage instead of 1 when using an axe.Frenzy SkillAll saving throws to combat melee attacks are made with advantage when made below half health.Brand of the Meek Curse Mark (Brand)The world is so domineering and it’s honestly terrifying.You are easy to push around, quick to scare, and docile.Regardless of what it was before, the target’s charisma modifier becomes a -3.
>>5229770Anxiety spiked. Danger all around. Zarkha once again found herself in place like the one that had cursed her with a career-ending brand, a dungeon. Tears flowed freely. “P-please, Grez,” she sobbed, “Let’s leave!”Unfortunately, it was too late. Snakes slithered. Bugs skittered. The bushes rustled.“We’re not leaving until I say we are!” roared Grez, holding her arms. ---------------Need DC 8 Constitution saving throws for Zarkha (+4)Please include the following message:Rolling for Zarkha against [Jungle Room]
Rolled 6 + 4 (1d20 + 4)>>5229773Rolling for Zarkha against [Jungle Room]
>>5229773And forgot the image as always.
>>5229770Jesus Christ.Thank GOD she does not have an axe on her. >You’ve personally destroyed the core of a two-level dungeon.T-That dungeon was a scrub, I'm sure.Using Charm on her with Chadaklin is going to be fun.
>>5229770damn. The Girl is tough.We will need to curse her to reliably get damage through.And she destroyed a Two level Dungeon.... If she manages to get to Chadaklin this is actually gonna be interesting.
I kinda wana contract brand her as a slave and have grez as co owner so we can give her a sub.
>Zarkha: Level 5Jesus Christ she is actually worth 15DP if we kill her. That's insane. Instant Level 2 Spawn Room with Tier 2 Minions.
>>5229775Rolled 6 + 4 (1d20 + 4) against DC 8 Zarkha saves------------Bugs raced their way up Zarkha’s legs, she shrieked and began smacking them away.A few found open skin, but none of the venom seemed to affect her all that much.------------Info>Attack Zarkha (-1)>Attack TARGET (-1 target's modifier to the saving throw)End of infoGoblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence3 Essence remaining>Attack Zarkha (-1)>Cast a spell: Arcane Explosion (Cost 3 Essence)>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)>Do nothingGoblin Raid Leader - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)>Do nothingGoblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)>Do nothingBugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)>Attack Zarkha (+1)>Do nothing
>>5229794>Goblin Savant>cast slow>Goblin raid leader>do nothing>goblin blight bringer>attack Zarkha>bugbear>attack zarkhaI think we keep raid leader back so he dosnt die early accidentally
>>5229794Goblin Savant>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader>Attack Zarkha (+8)Goblin Blight Bringer>Attack Zarkha (+8)Bugbear>Attack Zarkha (+1)QM, the Raid Leader is supposed to have a DC of 10, no? 12 with the bonus.
>>5229794Goblin Savant >Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Do nothing for now the buff is to usefulGoblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)Bugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)>Attack Zarkha (+1)
>>5229794Goblin Savant>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader>Do nothingGoblin Blight Bringer>Attack Zarkha (+8)Bugbear>Attack Zarkha (+1)QM, the Raid Leader is supposed to have a DC of 10, no? 12 with the bonus.
>>5229794Goblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Do nothingGoblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)Bugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)>Attack Zarkha (+1)We want to keep raid leader alive so he can buff the Savant and whoever else survives this first round of combat.Anyways, what is the point of the:Info>Attack Zarkha (-1)>Attack TARGET (-1 target's modifier to the saving throw)End of infoThat keeps popping up in combat? It doesn't make any sense, and we already know how to vote or else we wouldn't have voted before. Very weird.
>>5229794>Goblin Savant>Cast a spell: Slow >Goblin Raid Leader>Do nothing>goblin blight bringer>attack Zarkha>bugbear>attack Zarkha
>>5229806Just in case new people check out the thread. ConclusionGoblin Savant>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader - DC 12 (10+2) Strength>Do nothingGoblin Blight Bringer - DC 14 (12+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)Bugbear - DC 16 (14+2) Wisdom (First attack only)>Attack Zarkha (+1)>>5229804You are correct. Seems like I got overzealous in my copy/pasting--------------Need DC 14 Wisdom saving throw for Zarkha (+1) - Goblin Savant (Slow)Need DC 14 Strength saving throw for Zarkha (+8) - Goblin Blight BringerNeed DC 16 Wisdom saving throw for Zarkha (+1) - Bugbear Please include the following message:Rolling for Zarkha against MONSTER_NAMEOne roll per reply
Rolled 20 + 1 (1d20 + 1)>>5229854>Rolling for Zarkha against Goblin Savant
Rolled 5 + 8 (1d20 + 8)>>5229854Rolling for Zarkha against Goblin Blight Bringer
Rolled 6 (1d20)>>5229854Rolling for Zarkha against bugbear>>5229855Fucking christ girl
>>5229855>>5229856Wow, the slow got resisted but the fucking Blight Bringer managed to *barely* hit her? Damn.Isn't this the first time the Blight Bringer ever hit someone? About fucking time.
>>5229854>Just in case new people check out the thread. I think it causes more confusion than anything, /qst/ people already know how to vote. It doesn't even include an explanation or anything, it's just random attack prompts.
>>5229862yes, the first time it hits anything and it's someone who has +8 against them lol
>>5229862At least the other goblins managed to step up after Savant's failure
>>5229869at least he is still alive and can try again next round... maybe she will take some poison damage. It is only a 15% chance that she does. But damage without chance of retaliation is very useful.
>>5229854The [Goblin Savant] was the first to act, casting a mighty spell at the tall half-orc.Blue lines of magic soared through the air and tried to take hold of Zarkha, she felt her sensations slow.With a grunt of effort she broke through the spell through sheer force of will. It lasted but a moment.But that moment was all it took. A set of razor sharp teeth clamped down on Zarkha’s arm.The [Goblin Blight Bringer] snarled and tore, the poison from its fangs seeping into the wound.[Hostile creature 'Zarkha' takes one (1) point of damage from [Goblin Blight Bringer].]Zarkha gripped the creature by the neck and send it flying, stumbling slightly after the throw. The [Goblin Bright Bringer] landed hard onto the floor, but sprung up like nothing had happened. She looked down at her hand and saw several version of it hovering over one another, her vision was blurring. A slow action poison had made its way into her veins. [Hostile creature 'Zarkha' is affected by a slow acting poison.][Hostile creature 'Zarkha' will start to feel the effects from the poison in the next room.]As she stared at her hand, the [Bugbear] burst from the bushes and brought its weapon down on her shoulders.The impact send Zarkha buckling at the knees and gasping for air.[Hostile creature ‘Zarkha' takes two (2) point of damage from [Bugbear].][Hostile creature ‘Zarkha' has three (3) health remaining.]She tried to backhand the [Bugbear] with a closed fist but failed to do so, losing her balance in the process and going to a knee, “I don’t even w-want to be here…” she whimpered.----------------Pick actions for the following goblinsGoblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence2 Essence remaining>Attack Zarkha (-1)>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)>Do nothingGoblin Raid Leader - DC 12 (10+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)>Do nothingI’m assuming you simply want the [Goblin Blight Bringer] and the [Bugbear] to attack again.Need DC 14 Strength saving throw for Zarkha (+8) - Goblin Blight BringerNeed DC 14 Strength saving throw for Zarkha (+8) - BugbearPlease include the following message:Rolling for Zarkha against MONSTER_NAMEOne roll per reply
Rolled 8 + 8 (1d20 + 8)>>5229890Goblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Rolling for Zarkha against Goblin Blight Bringer
Rolled 18 (1d20)>>5229890Goblin Savant>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader >Do nothingRolling for Zarkha against Bugbear
>>5229890Goblin Raid Leader - DC 12 (10+2) Strength>Do nothing
>>5229890Goblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)Goblin Raid Leader - DC 12 (10+2) Strength>Do nothing
>>5229890Shouldn't we get a chance to roll for the slow? In case it succeeds, we should get the chance to roll again for the disadvantage it grants this turn
>>5229890In hindsight it wasn't a good idea to do the rolls for the [Bugbear] and [Goblin Blight Bringer] before deciding on the Savant's action. He could've cast his spell at the start of the turn and maybe given Zarkha disadvantage. Hmm. Something to keep in mind. Should the slow hit then these:>>5229894>>5229893Can be rolled again. ----------Need DC 14 Wisdom saving throw for Zarkha (+1) - Goblin Savant (Slow)Please include the following message:Rolling for Zarkha against Goblin Savant (Slow)One roll per reply
Rolled 16 (1d20)>>5229902Rolling for Zarkha against Goblin Savant (Slow)
>>5229901Yeah, I noticed the same thing.
>>5229902the dice gods decided that in fact no the Slow did not succeed >>5229903 but yeah something to keep in mind for the future....just goes to show that Zarkha is absolutely no pushover
For what it's worth, the room already dealt 3 damage and poisoned her. And she still has to deal with the Savant, who has a real change of injuring her further. Pretty good so far.She should go down to Chadaklin at the latest.
>>5229916Hopefully we get to see that puzzle room in action with her
Meek though she may be, she did wish for survival. The brand did not prevent self-defence.Scared out of her wits, Zarkha stood tall – knees trembling.The [Goblin Blight Bringer] ran at her like it was some kind of wild animal, tongue dangling between exposed teeth.It pounced, jumping towards her and she raised her fist in an effort to meet him.Zarkha’s fist collided with the creature’s skull and what followed was a sickening crunch.The goblin slammed into the ground and bounced once or twice before coming to a halt and dissipating into sparks and glitter.One more time a spell was cast, but it once again failed to take hold, much to the frustration of the [Goblin Savant].The [Bugbear] swallowed. Sneak attacks were no longer an option so it came down to a battle of pure strength.With a roar, the [Bugbear] brought down his Morningstar and Zarkha barely managed to avoid it.She planted a solid hit into the creature’s kidney, the [Bugbear] stumbled – clutching its side.Zarkha muttered a sorry, but it was lost on the creature.[Monster Bugbear' takes one (1) point of damage from [Zarkha].]--------------Pick actions for the following goblinsGoblin Savant - DC14 (12+2) Intelligence1 Essence remaining>Attack Zarkha (-1)>Cast a spell: Slow - DC 14 (12+2) (Target: Zarkha) (Cost 1 Essence)>Do nothingGoblin Raid Leader - DC 12 (10+2) Strength>Attack Zarkha (+8)>Do nothing